(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I was playing a defense mission the other day and this limbo was just standing there using his globe thing that makes it so I have to only use abilities Why? That's the most counter productive thing ever so much for using anything else Low on energy to freaking bad Wait awhile for it to recharge Wash and repeat I don't know any of his other abilities because all I've ever seen is just that ability 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Abilities pass through the Rift (hit any enemy normally), and melee isn't stopped by Stasis against rift-bound enemies. But yeah, any Limbo plopping down Cataclysm and Stasis around the cryopod on every round of Defense, when it's utterly unnecessary is just slowing things down for the rest of the team. Had one of these idiots for an Infested Defense alert for Nitain yesterday, not a pleasant experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy117 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 i only do it ony Sortie mobile def Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokens210 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Yea ive been finding even limbo's not trying to troll people with their power at somepoint troll ppl with their power, even if unintentional lol That being said ive also seen a few limbos on point with their powers, i always imagine those ones characters being like "Oh, ive trained for this my friend, ive trained for this" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakhul Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Limbo is not a team based frame. It is a solo frame. If i see Limbo in my team, is an instant drop. Limbo kills the purpose of anyone in the squad. Just dont bother and do the same as many others do. See a limbo? drop and look for new squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 What's even the point of that ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanxxieh Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I'd say Limbo is amazing for Mobile Defense missions and there noone should cry about his stasis - easy win, nothing blocked etc, because the mobile defense is timed, not waves based. The main problem with Limbo is the fact people take it on static defense. Which is waves based and stasis limits the team for powers/melee. So it slows the progress down (excluding some rare conditions like Sortie Defense with Limbo + 3 Excaliburs team). It is pretty egoistic and hence people hate Limbos. The problem is not the frame, but people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat__Nap Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, Zoknahal said: Limbo is not a team based frame. It is a solo frame. If i see Limbo in my team, is an instant drop. Limbo kills the purpose of anyone in the squad. Just dont bother and do the same as many others do. See a limbo? drop and look for new squad. Limbo actually pretty much idiot-proofs rescue sorties (and sometimes defense sorties) if you get stuck with people who linger around/keep dying. I bring Limbo exclusively to rescue sorties for this reason, though I usually pick something else for defense. There are people who play him that use him to troll the whole party (though it's certainly less obnoxious now that his bubble doesn't make you insta-drop power cores), but that's not everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeePoweredGenocide Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) limbo is as a cancer it came to be an annoyance to everyone else and thet people that use it are just brats but is a really nice warframe sadly people are too casual to understand how to teamwork with him. Edited November 22, 2017 by -VV-mago_de_muerte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 It's just pointless playing nidus when there's a limbo spam in the game I can't build any kind of stack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Limbo is meta. You don't understand him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardhanarishvara Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I think it's probably because a lot of people don't know how to use him properly, and end up just spamming his easiest abilities. Heck, I met a Limbo the other month that didn't know that Rift Surge forces enemies to stay in Rift when they're charged, even if Cataclysm closes or shrinks past them, and on top of that causes them to banish nearby un-banished enemies when they're killed. I told him this because while he wasn't spamming Stasis (thankfully) he was spamming Rift Surge, and was causing both melee and ranged weapons to become unusable on enemies.I tried to tell him that, and he just told me I'm wrong and that I should read the wiki more, before putting me on ignore. Ignore! Like, dude, did you not know that he just got a rework? In any case, in any kind of team setting, it's generally best to forego Stasis unless there's a real need to forego the action. Honestly I kind of wish that Stasis only slowed player projectiles rather than stopping them, with certain weapons like beams and such not being affected too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBane1 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Limbo=Great for rescue, escort, and timed (yes timed) mission. Limbo=sucks for defense, exterminate, capture. People use him to troll 99% of the time. But if you do it right, he is great. Actually, he's pretty good for the current operation. IF and only IF the person that uses him uses cataclysm to protect while the timer is going for protecting the toxin mixer. After that point, he's kinda useless. Also, as a side note, you do know you can still melee in the void right? You can also "Dispel" his stasis. You just have to shoot a TON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 I don't care if he's meta or not Spamming an ability that makes my frame totally useless isn't cool While he many may be good in allot of other missions Park and play/fire and forget isn't helping anyone In fact it's dragging everything out I like most of the input here kinda making me want to try him out and learn him for my self Although I'm afraid I'll end up being a hypocrite and spamming an ability I know little about early in the frames play time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Ardhanarishvara said: think it's probably because a lot of people don't know how to use him properly, and end up just spamming his easiest abilities. Pretty much this or people simulate worse case scenarios then apply it to every even if they havent actually experienced such a thing. Hes not a 1 dimensional frame which is a problem, it requires the user to think and requires the team to coordinate. That rarely ever happens in pugs. Limbo is a great pre made group frame but a bad PUG frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 So he's good for solos and that's it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Vortus_ Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Should probably change to " Why bad Limbo Players are the worst team frame" Which is mainly due to Stasis. Limbo itself is an excellent frame. And in a squad built around it, or a player that uses it well and considerately it can enhance any squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Why should we have to build around the limbo player though? When we would be better off building around the mission type? Every limbo I've seen has done the same thing and that's spam the anti gun ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, (PS4)T3H0N3GUY said: Why should we have to build around the limbo player though? Why should raid teams build around black mage in ff14? Why should players do a lot of things. If you bring Limbo your also bringing a dynamic change to how everything is interacted with concerning Limbo and the rift and what benefits you choose to coordinate with your group. Players in WF have never had to go with anything as anything most other frames do is background noise. Limbo is a river, flow with it and benefit, get out of the river or fight it and become frustrated. Thats why hes bad in PUGs but amazing in COORDINATED GROUPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, (PS4)T3H0N3GUY said: Every limbo I've seen has done the same thing and that's spam the anti gun ability Thats fine they are either NEW, TROLLS(like 5% of them maybe) or under a dumb misconception that anything below level 60 requires constant stasis. Granted IVE only come across this once and the player was new so they were more inclined to listen to the dos and donts. A lot of players would rather fight the river and come here and voice there woes or leave instead of explaining or giving said player a chance first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Never done anything but pugs so I guess I wouldn't know Just kinda sucks when you can't use the gun youre trying to level and limbo keeps stopping that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valaska Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I am considering doing what a lot of people I know do. Leaving as soon as you see a limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)T3H0N3GUY Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardhanarishvara Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I just switch to using melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Problem with Limbo is twofold: When used correctly in a situation where he excels, he's ridiculously cheesy (Rescue, MD, Sortie Defense) When used incorrectly, whether through incompetence or malice, he's a pure troll frame that only serves to make the game unfun for other players on the team He's just in a bad place overall, and I shouldn't have to bring an Arca Plasmor or a Kohm just because a Limbo might show up and spam stasis (and even that only "solves" one of his problems). Edited November 23, 2017 by Mattoropael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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