razoretti Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) At first - good, weapon, decend damage, fine design. These are a pros of this weapon, but... i find it kind of disappointing when i fired it at the first time. It sounds like a... it sounds just bad in my opinion. Well, i was expecting somehting like lightning gun from the first Quake. It is just too, i would say, realistic. ;) I mean, yeah, good, i like realistic things also, but there is no wow factor in it. It should make a sound of cutted metal which zaps in contact with laser beam, or... ah, i don't have a words to describe what i mean in certain, due to my nationality and english not being my native language. Another weak point is just a beam. It's too simple and we can see how it spreads from the weapon to target. Now realism is highly demanded (so far by me for sure) and we cannot just simple... see how to light spreads cause it happens to fast. Summing up - it just would be cool if shooting with flux would be like "WZAAAAHRKARHAKSA" *SPLAT* *PFLCKSSH* :):):) Am I weird, or you kinda have the same feelings? Edited July 31, 2013 by razoretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'd defenetely like a 'bigger beam' and a sound like the lighting cannon from quake 3 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leno Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Lol, it's probably the best rifle in the game and you're complaining about it's sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razoretti Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yes i do. What do you mean by best, damage? overall design? If about damage and other mechanical stuff, we're done here. If about overall design - yep, in my humble opinion, this rifle needs a feeling of holding a beast in hand. Now i feel like I'm holding a laser pointer used by a tour guides, which just don't satisfies me EVEN, if i cut whole ship in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yes i do. What do you mean by best, damage? overall design? If about damage and other mechanical stuff, we're done here. If about overall design - yep, in my humble opinion, this rifle needs a feeling of holding a beast in hand. Now i feel like I'm holding a laser pointer used by a tour guides, which just don't satisfies me EVEN, if i cut whole ship in half. Supporting! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razoretti Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Supporting! :D My regards. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious-EN- Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Best rifle imo in the game. Forma'd mine 4 times so far (1 to go). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I've just started leveling it (lvl 17 with a potato) and i must say it's very fun to use but it drains ammo quickly, it also seems stronger vs grineer and infested but kinda 'weak' against corpus and shields in general... is it just an impression or reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Considering 5% crit chance and 200% crit dmg could it worth to put crit mods on flux? CC would go up to 12,5% and dmg 320% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottFaust Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Considering 5% crit chance and 200% crit dmg could it worth to put crit mods on flux? CC would go up to 12,5% and dmg 320% No, you get much better returns from a "raw damage" build.You should go for: Serration(10) Split Chamber(5) Wildfire(3) Hellfire(5) Cryo Rounds(5) Stormbringer(5) Piercing Hit(5) The final mod is up to you, but just so you know: Speed Trigger does not work with the Flux. Personally I use either Metal Auger(5) or Rifle Ammo Mutation(3) depending on the mission. Edit: DPS Calculations: Flux Raw Damage: (Serration, Split Chamber, Wildfire, Hellfire, Stormbringer, Cryo Rounds, Piercing Hit) Raw Damage per Second:((200*2.65)+(((200*2.65)*0.9)*3)+(((200*2.65)*0.6)*2))*1.9=4934.3 Rounds in a Mag:120 Crit Chance:5 Crit Damage:2 Crit Damage per Second:(4934.3)*2=9868.6 Damage per Iteration: (11.4*4934.3)+(0.6*9868.6)=62172.18 Iteration Time: (120/10)+2=14 Damager per Minute:(60/14)*62172.18=266452.2 Adjusted Damage per Second:4440.87 Flux Crit: (Serration, Split Chamber, Hellfire, Cryo Rounds, Vital Sense, Point Strike, Hammer Shot) Raw Damage per Second:((200*2.65)+(((200*2.65)*0.9)*2))*1.9=2819.6 Rounds in a Mag:100 Crit Chance:12.5 Crit Damage:3.8 Crit Damage per Second:10714.48 Damage per Iteration:(8.75*2819.6)+(1.25*10714.48)=38064.6 Iteration Time: (100/10)+2=12 Damager per Minute:(60/12)*38064.6=190323 Adjusted Damage per Second:3172.05 Edited August 1, 2013 by GottFaust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetwing Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 It's a very fun weapon, but I would note that the point of impact is just exactly as large as the beam makes it look. I'd say it looks fine. As for sound, well, I kinda like the sound it has, but really i have no opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucran Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Ty GottFaust for the math! Also, I'm on board with OP. When enemies hear the Flux Rifle cutting their friends in half they should be running. Edited August 7, 2013 by aucran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetwing Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Ty GottFaust for the math! Also, I'm on board with OP. When enemies here the Flux Rifle cutting their friends in half they should be running. They can try to run, but all they can do is stagger awkwardly backward about half a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonocolips Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) I've just started leveling it (lvl 17 with a potato) and i must say it's very fun to use but it drains ammo quickly, it also seems stronger vs grineer and infested but kinda 'weak' against corpus and shields in general... is it just an impression or reality? stick a ice mod on it and in regards to sound something a little louder and maybe "thrumbing" i guess you could say. the geonosian laser from star wars republic commando comes to mind. http://youtu.be/H6y5F-UxYgg?t=19m42s not the best audio now that ive brought that up too best soundtrack ever Edited August 1, 2013 by Demonocolips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 No, you get much better returns from a "raw damage" build. You should go for: Serration(10) Split Chamber(5) Wildfire(3) Hellfire(5) Cryo Rounds(5) Stormbringer(5) Piercing Hit(5) The final mod is up to you, but just so you know: Speed Trigger does not work with the Flux. Personally I use either Metal Auger(5) or Rifle Ammo Mutation(3) depending on the mission. Edit: DPS Calculations: Flux Raw Damage: (Serration, Split Chamber, Wildfire, Hellfire, Stormbringer, Cryo Rounds, Piercing Hit) Raw Damage per Second:((200*2.65)+(((200*2.65)*0.9)*3)+(((200*2.65)*0.6)*2))*1.9=4934.3 Rounds in a Mag:120 Crit Chance:5 Crit Damage:2 Crit Damage per Second:(4934.3)*2=9868.6 Damage per Iteration: (11.4*4934.3)+(0.6*9868.6)=62172.18 Iteration Time: (120/10)+2=14 Damager per Minute:(60/14)*62172.18=266452.2 Adjusted Damage per Second:4440.87 Flux Crit: (Serration, Split Chamber, Hellfire, Cryo Rounds, Vital Sense, Point Strike, Hammer Shot) Raw Damage per Second:((200*2.65)+(((200*2.65)*0.9)*2))*1.9=2819.6 Rounds in a Mag:100 Crit Chance:12.5 Crit Damage:3.8 Crit Damage per Second:10714.48 Damage per Iteration:(8.75*2819.6)+(1.25*10714.48)=38064.6 Iteration Time: (100/10)+2=12 Damager per Minute:(60/12)*38064.6=190323 Adjusted Damage per Second:3172.05 thx for the math! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razoretti Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 Especially when topic is about cosmetics... GOD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottFaust Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Especially when topic is about cosmetics... GOD... Sorry, someone asked about a builds and I just posted the math to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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