Rekkou Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well, this is something that i just noticed. Weapons and their variant have the same Riven disposition. Which means if weak weapons with strong disposition like Kogake got a powerful prime variant, the Kogake Prime will have the same strong disposition as Kogake. Am i missing something or this is a very bad design? A lot of weapons have strong disposition because they are very weak, and the more recent prime tends to be stronger and stronger. That means weapons like Afuris prime, Tiberon Prime, Attica Prime are bound to be powerful and on top of that also having powerful rivens. Vice versa, if the weapons have strong prime variants this will lead to weak disposition on the base weapon. In the future when Akstiletto Prime was vaulted, then new players with Akstiletto Riven will be stuck with weak weapons with weak riven. I just can't see fairness or balance with the current system. Proposed Solution : All Rivens will be set to default lowest value, like +70% damage & +30% multi shots Every weapons should have different dispositions even if they are the variants of a single weapon. Disposition now works as multiplier, the stronger the disposition, the stronger the multiplier 00000 : 5X 0000- : 4X 000-- : 3X 00--- : 2X 0---- : 1X Example : Afuris Riven : +70% damage & +30% multi shots Base Afuris (00000) = (+70% damage & +30% multi shots) x 5 = +350% damage & +150% multi shots Dex Furis (000--) = (+70% damage & +30% multi shots) x 3 = +210% damage & + 90% multi shots Afuris Prime (0----) = (+70% damage & +30% multi shots) X 1 = +70% damage & +30% multi shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)s3d_sas Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Ooo you u have a good idea upvote Edited December 13, 2017 by (PS4)s3d_sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukinu_u Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yeah, that's seems legit and would work well with weapons that have multiple variant, such as Gorgon, Braton, Tigris, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Temp0- Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 There's no real point using normal weapons instead of wraith/vandal/prime or whatever as it is. They are straight upgrades. No point in slapping strong riven on a weaker version, you will get exact stats if not worse of a +200 damage on a regular weapon as you would having +50% on a prime. And rivens as it is are pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Would tweak the multipliers but yes, rivens are probably better off with different disposition levels for each version. as either one suffers or the other grows out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksi134 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, -Temp0- said: There's no real point using normal weapons instead of wraith/vandal/prime or whatever as it is. They are straight upgrades. No point in slapping strong riven on a weaker version, you will get exact stats if not worse of a +200 damage on a regular weapon as you would having +50% on a prime. And rivens as it is are pointless. Well depends what you consider pointless about them, they arent necessary but they sure as hell buff some weapons to insane dmg amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekkou Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, -Temp0- said: There's no real point using normal weapons instead of wraith/vandal/prime or whatever as it is. They are straight upgrades. No point in slapping strong riven on a weaker version, you will get exact stats if not worse of a +200 damage on a regular weapon as you would having +50% on a prime. And rivens as it is are pointless. And that is exactly the problem that proper Riven system can fix. Rivens were meant so that weaker weapons can gain more viability and usage, but at the moment it has potential to double dip the power creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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