Ability Evolution?

[SynisterDoom]

i'm sure the dev team has been thinking about alternate abilitites alongside the current ones. but maybe while we wait we could get a kind of power evolution type thing? basicly my idea is that for 100,000 credits (i think its a do-able amount) you can purchase a token from the market and if you click the token you get to choose one power from your mod inventory to evolve, i dont know the powers for all the frames so the only idea's i've had for evolved powers are for excal. but heres what i've thought up

                                                                            Excalibur

 

Slash Dash<Rend Run: like slash dash, but the aura is wider and flater, gving it more horizontal range, it ends with a shockwave that at 5 meters is lethal and can gore an enemy, and at 10 meters to 15 meters you just get knockdown.

 

Radial Blind< OmniGlare. its just Radial blind that sets fire to close by enemies. (5 meters or so)

 

Super Jump= Super Sprint. i cant really think of a direct upgrade for this one, soi was thinking that evolving it just changed it to something that is essentially a weaker version of energize.

 

Radial Javilen< Blades of the Downed : basicly, a shockwave like the one at the end of Rend Run, accomponies the javilens which also explode after sticking an enemy. now heres the kicker. For every ally that is incompasitated. the shockwave's Area of Effect increases by ten meters.  

 

                                                                         ~@(EDIT)@~                                                                                                         

 

 

                                                                          Frost

 Freeze<CyroBlast: The enemy is frozen solid  (100% movement speed debuff, they cant move) and if killed in this state they explode, shooting shards of frozen flesh into nearby enemies.

 

Icewave=/<SubzeroSlash: an omnidirectional blade of ice that explodes from Frost's body, dealing massive melee and freeze damage. slowing all non-killed enemies by 30% (=/< means that it equal too or greater. i figured that since its a radical change from the basic icewave that some people might not like it

 

Snowglobe<FlashPod (a refrence to flashfreezing): Flashpod will do damage over time too all enemies inside of it by crystiyzing internal moisture. And all Tenno shots that pass through the pod's wall are given small amounts of frost damage.

 

Avalance<Whiteout: Whiteout blinds all enemies caught in its range. it also snapfreezes all light-medium armored oppents. causing them to explode violently

 

                                                                                       Nyx

Mind Control<Psyche Siphon For ever enemy that a controlled enemy kills, Nyx gains one health point. if health is full, the controlled enemy heals itself.

 

Pychic Bolts< Mind Arrows: A direct damage and graphaticle upgrade, that can stick enemies to walls.

 

Chaos<Anarchy: when enemies fire upon eachother while under this effect, they do extra damage. 

 

Absorb<Absorb+ (cuz its the perfect name for it already) the shockwave at the end of absorb is even bigger and more powerful. thats really it

Edited August 4, 2013 by Akiba_Broax

[AntLion]

I think all these improved ablities could be a part of prime versions of frames. Btw Prime version should be a switchable skin giving new buffs (better basic stats and powers) for standard frame. So, all of this would be a new stage of frames evolution to be ready for new hard missions and challenges.

I suggested some my ideas in this thread (comment #10 and below): https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/90207-prime-anyone/

[SynisterDoom]

I think all these improved ablities could be a part of prime versions of frames. Btw Prime version should be a switchable skin giving new buffs (better basic stats and powers) for standard frame. So, all of this would be a new stage of frames evolution to be ready for new hard missions and challenges.

I suggested some my ideas in this thread (comment #10 and below): https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/90207-prime-anyone/

no, i think if anything primes should just get a built in token, one freebie evolution. i dont like the idea of excal prime. something entirely unobtainable by me. to be the only thing able to use the evolved powers.

[AntLion]

no, i think if anything primes should just get a built in token, one freebie evolution. i dont like the idea of excal prime. something entirely unobtainable by me. to be the only thing able to use the evolved powers.

I guess everyone could get Excalibur Prime when Open Beta stage is over and Warframe will be finally released. Some day.

[SynisterDoom]

I guess everyone could get Excalibur Prime when Open Beta stage is over and Warframe will be finally released. Some day.

i guess but idk if its worth it

[GrayFox]

I guess everyone could get Excalibur Prime when Open Beta stage is over and Warframe will be finally released. Some day.

 

 

i guess but idk if its worth it

Just read this imagining me saying it in a very calm and respectful demeanor (as it may sound very tactless since I purchased a founder's package). 

No, even after OBT, DE won't give a greenlight on having excal prime obtainable outside the founder's system. It's part of marketing the said package being an "exclusive", having that obtainable outside that system will make a lot of the founders furiously mad (we know how people get petty over things).

Aside from the mastery exp, an extra polarity (which you can just do with a forma) and the skin, as far as "worth" is concerned, nope, it's not entirely different with excal.

On topic: I'm a big fan of super jump, hell I'll even go in record in saying I'm the biggest fan of it! (haha) I don't like the speed thing though, I'd suggest having another jump (double super jump? hahaha) with 25% of the max height or having a slash dash type of thing going down (not upon impact like what Heavy Impact mod does) or have the duration of super jump a reduction on damage received (not that big, around 25% would be ok for me) so yeap :)

[AntLion]

Just read this imagining me saying it in a very calm and respectful demeanor (as it may sound very tactless since I purchased a founder's package). 

No, even after OBT, DE won't give a greenlight on having excal prime obtainable outside the founder's system. It's part of marketing the said package being an "exclusive", having that obtainable outside that system will make a lot of the founders furiously mad (we know how people get petty over things).

Aside from the mastery exp, an extra polarity (which you can just do with a forma) and the skin, as far as "worth" is concerned, nope, it's not entirely different with excal.

You have bought "exclusive" early access to it. Founders have got many other privileges besides the first prime frame. It's part of marketing. Isn't it enough?

If Primes become the part of end game content and wouldn't be just a cosmetic decoration as now then devs will have to make Excalibur Prime obtainable for every one. It would be logical.

[SynisterDoom]

You have bought "exclusive" early access to it. Founders have got many other privileges besides the first prime frame. It's part of marketing. Isn't it enough?

If Primes become the part of end game content and wouldn't be just a cosmetic decoration as now then devs will have to make Excalibur Prime obtainable for every one. It would be logical.

we're getting a little side tracked here. this thread is about a game mechanic that i had and i wanted feedback and for DE to notice. not about the furture of the Primeframe variants. come on ya'll. im going to add some new power ideas i had in a minute

[Coyskurk]

Maybe, since DE wants to bring all frames to the level of Vaubz and Nova (So I've heard at least), these abilities could replace the current ones instead of being an "evolution"?  I dunno just a thought.  I'm not for or against it :P

[GrayFox]

You have bought "exclusive" early access to it. Founders have got many other privileges besides the first prime frame. It's part of marketing. Isn't it enough?

If Primes become the part of end game content and wouldn't be just a cosmetic decoration as now then devs will have to make Excalibur Prime obtainable for every one. It would be logical.

Well just to answer this:

https://warframe.com/founders

 

Yes it would be logical to have all other frames "primed" except for excal. Again please do click the link. If excal prime becomes available later on, this would be faulty advertising at best since it reads:

"Being a founder has its privileges. Snag exclusive items that will never be available again"

Comparable items such as the Braton Vandal, Lato Vandal falls into being exclusive (lato prime and skana prime for the packages)

On topic: Thought about it and I think this falls down after the second wave of skill sets are implemented (another set of 4 skills). Having season 1 and season 2 skills combined that leaves you the option to either gain specific upgrades for either of the skills (much left to your choice) will tie in with your idea, but yeah pretty much a later type of mechanic. But I do hope dev's take this idea on queue :D 

[SynisterDoom]

Well just to answer this:

https://warframe.com/founders

 

Yes it would be logical to have all other frames "primed" except for excal. Again please do click the link. If excal prime becomes available later on, this would be faulty advertising at best since it reads:

"Being a founder has its privileges. Snag exclusive items that will never be available again"

Comparable items such as the Braton Vandal, Lato Vandal falls into being exclusive (lato prime and skana prime for the packages)

On topic: Thought about it and I think this falls down after the second wave of skill sets are implemented (another set of 4 skills). Having season 1 and season 2 skills combined that leaves you the option to either gain specific upgrades for either of the skills (much left to your choice) will tie in with your idea, but yeah pretty much a later type of mechanic. But I do hope dev's take this idea on queue :D 

thanks i do oto ^'u^ i'm going to work on coming up with all the power evo's now so that De doesnt gotta work'em out. Plus if you liked oyur season one powers more than your season two, this is a way to keep them nice and viable when you hit end-game content

[GrayFox]

Just a rough idea

Both resting at 25 Energy

For Ash:

S1: Shuriken

S2: Shorter, weaker version of slash dash

combining them gives you the option of either Shuriken 2.0 or WSD 2.0

Shuriken 2.0 fires 3 shurikens 

WSD 2.0 gets boosted damage (still weaker compared to Slash Dash with Max Focus though)

regardless of what you pick, energy consumption will be lowered to 20

The mod you'll be getting will have x2 of the max rank (for this instance, you have to have 6 full fusions) 

What do you think?

[Spellcasterz]

Evolution of skills...eh that would only bring a whole lot more balance problems to the table and just look at what we already have.

 

As for the whole prime idea...ffs no.

Stop making the base models obsolent,I shouldnt be severly punished just because I dont have the time to farm void keys or just like the base design more.

[AntLion]

As for the whole prime idea...ffs no.

Stop making the base models obsolent,I shouldnt be severly punished just because I dont have the time to farm void keys or just like the base design more.

Omg, another one... If you read carefully you could understand that standard frames would not be obsolent at all according my idea. Btw, Unranked frame is not as effective as 30lvl full modded frame. So, what's the problem? Do you want be more effective? Level up then. My ideas with prime is the same. It's new upgrade (like new skin) with new buffs and better stats for standard frame but not just a pointless cosmetic decoration (occupying frame slot) as now. Primes could be the part of end game content which every successful muliplayer game should have. Think widely.

And farm is almost only one reason to play this game atm. If you don't like it don't play Warframe then.