LupisV0lk Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Currently archwing missions are generally considered some of the worse. Being that as it may missions that are purely archwing focused should be made optional with it leading to no other mission node it does not go towards unlocking a planet to be used for extractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDixon286 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Technically they are optional as you can just get a taxi to bypass the archwing missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Archwing is fine if you have your gear set-up and you know what you're doing. Kinda like the rest of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)lyfred1006 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Most quests dont require archwing so i dont really care about it unless im in POE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)jaysonsp Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 They are not as bad as people make them out to be.... I think its fine the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcaninePrime Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I wish there was more Archwing tbh... now that I have Primed Morphic Transformer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sader Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Fishyflakes said: Archwing is fine if you have your gear set-up and you know what you're doing. Kinda like the rest of the game This, this omfg this. People constantly wondering why their archwings are bad. Me: Did you level it? Level the mods ? Forma it once or twice? Them: No... Me: (face palm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazur Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Archwing is kind of fun, the problem is that DE threw a few quests that need Archwing to do but unless you fully mod a archwing loadout doing the archwing missions can be tedious. To do Limbo's quest you need to farm some items from archwing mission which is easy if you actually have a decent archwing loadout but for casual players who barely touched archwing getting them to farm the resources needed is a super annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroopingPuppy Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, LupisV0lk said: Currently archwing missions are generally considered some of the worse. Being that as it may missions that are purely archwing focused should be made optional with it leading to no other mission node it does not go towards unlocking a planet to be used for extractors. The only problem is you posted it on general discussion, not feedback. Although it is nothing wrong to post in here, but if you want something to be changed and want to say this to DE, then the feedback forum is the better place. In here only the players are listen to that, but what you need is to talk this to DE. --------------------------------------------------- Anyway, as OP said, many missions requires archwing. It is true that most mission can be played by non-max ranked default loadouts, but archwing's control is very annoying. So, either archwing should be removed from the requirement for more missions, or more better, make archwing better by fix its weird controls and mission structures. Edited January 16, 2018 by DroopingPuppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whooohooo Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 the prob with aw is... ppl only have a low lv gear because they don't bother to lvl it... and easily get rekt in lvl 30+ aw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brorelia Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Energize makes putting forma on archwing gear worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KingGuy420 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I actually wish there was more archwing missions / events. I personally love it. As for it not being forced... I mean, come on. Even just to open up all nodes, you can do it in under an hour or so of Archwing missions. In a game that has hundreds upon thousands of hours, a single hour is basically the equivalent of a single mosquito lol. I used to hate archwing, but still managed to open all nodes with 0 extra work outside of just playing them. There's only 1 mission that you might need to be leveled for and it's the most popular one so it's easy to get carried through matchmaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiyadan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 There is only one problem i see there is not a lot archwing content so People dont play it that often and than you get under skilled and underleveld in a mission that needs skill what most people donte have cause they dont play it that often cause there is not a lot where you can use or need it and thinks like the plains make it worse yeah you can you your archwing to move fast but you cant level it or get skill for it cause you limited to experimentel movement what was a fail in the first place and im playing archwing very often cause i playing with the older movement that feels so mutch better but you still have to learn and train it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EighthGear Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I wanted to get Limbo first, just to see how his utility is in solo play. Then I realized the quest starts out with archwing missions, so I was like "no thanks..." Don't wanna waste my Endo on archwing if I don't need to. Maybe there should be an option for quests in particular whether you want to play a certain objective in archwing or a regular tileset, I dunno. It's just really not my thing and I try to avoid it if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiyadan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) the hardest thing on the limbo mission is to loot the fragments you need People can do one wave and repeat it that should be no problem on the begining of archwing i played missions of that type solo to grinde my archwing drops and with 1-2 people i never had a problem to reach wave 4 so one wave should be doable Edited January 16, 2018 by Keiyadan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathAscending Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Sader said: This, this omfg this. People constantly wondering why their archwings are bad. Me: Did you level it? Level the mods ? Forma it once or twice? Them: No... Me: (face palm) On the other hand, there's no easy XP farm locations for Archwing and assembling all the required mods to do well is an incredible pain. It took me months to get Rubedo-Lined Barrel to drop, and that's a cornerstone mod you need to do well. Then you consider how much weaker all the Archwing mods are than comparable mods for the normal PVE game, and you start to see how much more quickly the power differential between us and the enemy is narrowed, especially when crowd control isn't as reliable or effective and you need to kill the enemy before they get you. With a control scheme that many find unhelpful on top of all that. I think the mode has promise, but it needs more polish. Greater XP gains and access to vital mods just to start, with a tweaking of difficulty to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Fishyflakes said: Archwing is fine if you have your gear set-up and you know what you're doing. Kinda like the rest of the game ^This 3 hours ago, Sader said: This, this omfg this. People constantly wondering why their archwings are bad. Me: Did you level it? Level the mods ? Forma it once or twice? Them: No... Me: (face palm) ^and This 54 minutes ago, Whooohooo said: the prob with aw is... ppl only have a low lv gear because they don't bother to lvl it... and easily get rekt in lvl 30+ aw... ^^which is usually the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KingGuy420 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, WrathAscending said: On the other hand, there's no easy XP farm locations for Archwing and assembling all the required mods to do well is an incredible pain. It took me months to get Rubedo-Lined Barrel to drop, and that's a cornerstone mod you need to do well. Neptune Mobile Defense can max something out in a couple runs. No problem. Not to mention, I got all archwing mods outside of the dual stats in less than a week. No offense, but you're either exaggerating or they've made changes since you tried. It's not nearly that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, (PS4)KingGuy420 said: No offense, but you're either exaggerating or they've made changes since you tried. It's not nearly that bad. I believe this to probably be the case. Previously I wouldn't have thought so. That was until I once saw the profile of a high MR player that still had AW gear that was barely rank 10. Seeing that clued me in to some things. Edited January 16, 2018 by DatDarkOne spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoresh Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well currently there are no hard or challenging archwing missions. Every Node and Quest can be easily done with The starter gear and 3-4 Mods on each part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Ubern00ber88 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, EighthGear said: I wanted to get Limbo first, just to see how his utility is in solo play. Then I realized the quest starts out with archwing missions, so I was like "no thanks..." Don't wanna waste my Endo on archwing if I don't need to. Maybe there should be an option for quests in particular whether you want to play a certain objective in archwing or a regular tileset, I dunno. It's just really not my thing and I try to avoid it if I can. If you still don't have Limbo and know someone who has done it they can trade you leftover proof fragments. I use them as placeholders in dummy trades instead of ammo case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I always recommend levelling Archwing stuff first if you have an Affinity Booster active, trust me I know it can be boring but the sooner you finish with Archwing the easier it'll be in the long run as you won't be getting rekt on higher level Archwing content. if you haven't unlocked Salacia on Neptune, try to get someone else to bring you there. it might be wise to go with a friend anyway so that you have someone to talk to and the whole experience feels less tedious. Archwing levelling is like eating your greens; nobody likes them but if you want to be big and strong you gotta eat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sader Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Salacia, Corpus Mobil defense. Is basically the Hydron of archwing missions when it comes to leveling. I leveled all my archwing mods VERY quickly there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syasob Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 AW isn't popular -> few missions with little chance of future updates -> new players don't have much space to practice AW and lvling gear is harder then standing afk on a casual defense mission -> they don't have good dear for high lvl missions -> AW isn't popular. At the moment even with bugged Corvettes (they now one-shot almost every aw but Amesha) Salacia is good for lvling AW and plenty of good mods drop there. But if you don't love AW you'll probably don't even try it, because with poor gear you're going to die often and that's the most disappointing part for most players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SkinlessGorgon Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think AW is a fine diversion from the main gameplay. The pain comes from not getting the mods as quickly as you would like, comparing to normal WF gameplay, your not gathering mods and resources through the AW gameplay. Thanks to a weak vacuum and a frictionless environment mods can just sail off into space Also I've got to say it, that pursuit mission on Jupiter is hella bad. Tried it a few times and I just nope out every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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