Ogris Breaks Immersion

[Lysander26]

There is absolutely nothing "Ninja" about a fricken rocket launcher.

 

Its fine as a weapon for our enemies, but really doesn't seem to be in flavor or resonant with anything a Tenno would use.

[KvotheTheArcane1]

There's a lot that isn't ninja here, like killing 200+ enemies in one mission. Tenno aren't REALLY ninjas, more of assassins.

[legionprobatio]

Well, DE should keep it but reduce the amount of ammo by abut 400

[Nubsawce]

Any attempt at really being anything like ninja has been long lost. I don't understand why we're not just considered space mercs or something.

[Greene]

guns aren't ninja. Remove them from the game please. Half the warframes are not ninja. Remove them from the game please.

... See where this could get absurd?

[E.R.I.C]

we absolutely needs weapon based trap mechanics

[CaveCricket48]

So shotguns, assault rifles, flamethrowers, and lasers are ninja?

 

Is antimatter also ninja? What about dropping electric grenade turrets?

[MetalGerbil]

the tenno use it. therefore its something they would use.

your head, your immersion. so just dont use it.

back to throwing blackhole grenades and watching my flying box pet kill things.

ninja.

[Athros]

Arguing about immersion won't get it to anywhere. If you want to;

 

Warframe is about ninja-like, warfare-oriented, cybernetic-suit wearing, mercenaries/assasins/warriors in space, THOUSAND YEARS ahead of our age. Now, could you make sure that some weapons that surely won't be used by ninja in ours and the age before us won't be used by those people?

[Tarudizer]

Guys. Guys. Come on. Tenno are not ninjas.

 

 

We can see them.

[Lampshade]

Well, DE should keep it but reduce the amount of ammo by abut 400

try 530 and only allow it 10 shots so you can't snipe forever yet 1 pickup would be full ammo

[Chronodroid]

Ninja means adaption

 

I adapt my triggerfinger to anything :D

[Nubsawce]

try 530 and only allow it 10 shots so you can't snipe forever yet 1 pickup would be full ammo

sounds like you can just be invalidated by RNG if rifle ammo doesn't drop. If we really want ammo "balance" I'd probably put it to 50 or 60 rockets. It's not an armchair science, balance. At least not in games where skill is also relevant to some degree.

[Maou]

Pirates

[TrashSpider]

neither is having a ninja that tanks (rhino, frost)

[Lysander26]

I admit there are some bad flavor offenders in the game, but the Ogris is by far the worst, it just annoys me everytime I see it used by someone in my squad.

[Mazrim]

I always thought we were Space Marine Pirates. *shrug* 

 

Seems like we spend A LOT of time storming ships and bases and killing everyone and eveyrthing for that delicious space booty.

[Phoenix86]

i would just be fine if Ogris used Sniper ammos like bows...

[Rhorge]

This is where ninja theme in Warframe starts:

"A ninja was a covert agent or mercenary in feudal Japan who specialized in unorthodox warfare. The functions of the ninja included espionage, sabotage, infiltration, and assassination, and open combat in certain situations."

And this is where it ends.

 

Absolutely nothing featured in this game goes against being a ninja.

[Lysander26]

This is where ninja theme in Warframe starts:

"A ninja was a covert agent or mercenary in feudal Japan who specialized in unorthodox warfare. The functions of the ninja included espionage, sabotage, infiltration, and assassination, and open combat in certain situations."

And this is where it ends.

 

Absolutely nothing featured in this game goes against being a ninja.

 

Well, this is almost exactly my point. Rocket Launchers are very "orthodox" military weapons when you really think of them. Its something for the open battlefield for taking out armor and something that could be a great equalizer between warriors of different skill. Its almost directly counter to the precision, stealth, and mastery of weapons that being a ninja implies. Please show me a rocket launcher kata.

 

I do understand that Ninjas were masters of pragmatism, and occasionally the right tool for a job could be a rocket launcher, but I don't think this would be always plan A. 

 

So 1%-2% of the time, A Ninja with a rocket launcher could be cool, but more than that and it gets old and grating fast.

[Rhorge]

Well, this is almost exactly my point. Rocket Launchers are very "orthodox" military weapons when you really think of them. Its something for the open battlefield for taking out armor and something that could be a great equalizer between warriors of different skill. Its almost directly counter to the precision, stealth, and mastery of weapons that being a ninja implies. Please show me a rocket launcher kata.

I do understand that Ninjas were masters of pragmatism, and occasionally the right tool for a job could be a rocket launcher, but I don't think this would be always plan A.

So 1%-2% of the time, A Ninja with a rocket launcher could be cool, but more than that and it gets old and grating fast.

You do know that ninjas used gunpowder explosives(and later guns) any second it was available, right? Kayaku Jutsu was learned by all ninjas and covered the use of explosives and guns.

Edit: besides, REMOTE explosives is even more ninja than placed charges, don't you think?

Edited August 6, 2013 by Rhorge

[Faethore]

This is thousands of years in the future...who's to say that ninja's didn't "EVOLVE" to use rocket launchers.  That's the great thing about science FICTION, you can do and say what you want. =b

[PyroPaul]

... but we are not ninja

 

if anything we are more Samurai and Ronin then anything else.  Warrior's skilled in weapon and blade capable of cutting swatches of death through entire armies with only but a handful on our side. 

 

 

but i have been curious...

Who every said we are ninja in the first place?

Edited August 6, 2013 by PyroPaul

[Ketec]

where did this ninja thing even come from - all i see is that we are  warriors from orokin era,  who where thrown into cryopods when war was  over.

[azmyth1]

As an expert on magical robotic space ninja assassins. I can tell you that they definately use rocket launchers.