The Person Behind The Warframe...

[Shepard.]

So my understanding is that there is a person behind all that machinery, and said person may change their warframe, because there is only one person, who we the players, are ranking up in mastery. As we level up weapons and warframes, the person who we are leveling up becomes a better fighter. Another thing are bosses, such as Vor, taunt us by saying something along the lines " your hiding behind that warframe," or "come out of that warframe and face me like a true warrior," but they always target these insults towards your character (the person inside the warframe), and not the warframe itself. However, the reason I bring this up is because they're specific gender warframes, with obvious features that suggest which gender a warframe is. So the question I ask is... are we male...or female...

[Hazmatzone]

Check your pants for the answer.

Edited August 6, 2013 by Hazmatzone

[Tomyhunter]

since ur rhino ur male

[Chris9428]

Warframe suits are unisex.

Deal with it.

[Archistopheles]

We are Tenno.

[akaSM]

Check what's in the pants of the person in the cryopod. There's your answer.

Edited August 6, 2013 by akaSM

[VScipii26]

It's like Dota or LoL.

Every time you change your Frame, it's like you chance character.
At least in my mind.

[RibbonRobbin]

Damn... this Saryn frame is so tight on my sides and my shoulders. WHY DOES MY CHEST FEEL SO HEAVY?!

[CrownFire]

I don't think the Tenno is actually in the frame.

I look at it more like a remote controlled device or something that you possess like a ghost. 

 

Maybe something like the movie Surrogates 

Edited August 7, 2013 by CrownFire

[Jugganatha]

Shepard?

 

 

Okay okay! My needless jerking around aside, I've always thought that the Warframes themselves are... get this, actually the people!

 

The Technocyte virus was the virus engineered by the Orokin which created the infested. In science, "cyte' is applied as a suffix to words to indicate something cellular, or having to do with cells. "Techno" of course is referring to technology. So the technocyte may be some sort of hyper advanced cybernetic modifications on a cellular level.

 

With modifications like this, the Tenno could have been flesh and blood humans at some point, but were modified heavily by the virus to the point that biology and technology is no longer distinguished.

 

Of course there is the "Does that second-skin peel away just as easy as the first?" line that bosses always spout, so it might just be me being crazy.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Jugganatha

[Rettycombine]

I don't think the Tenno is actually in the frame.

I look at it more like a remote controlled device or something that you possess like a ghost. 

 

Maybe something like the movie Surrogates 

That theory has been disproven several times.

[Cinderain]

Look at the Tenno that you rescue in Rescue. Boom, that's what is behind the Warframes.

 

If the Warframes were controlled remotely, they wouldn't be exo-armor, nor would the bosses talk about them being second skin and taking them off of us.

 

They are not unisex, each Frame is designed to work for a specific person/gender.

[Azraill]

The only ingame proof one way or the other is more than likely a 'oversight' on DE's part.

 

That being when you approach a boss they tend to say, "Your volt warframe is no match for me" / "Your ash warframe is no match for me!"

but at other times will say things along the lines of "[Player Handle Name] shall fall!" and obviously your handle carries across any frame as though Ash/Loki/Nyx/ect are all the same person, therefore have the same handle, can't say the handle is a group name, we have clans for that and the bosses already mention our clans, so perhaps all the frames are your 'handle name' character's evolutionary ability to shift between forms .. or the far more likely we just build them, and each player plays as just one person - technically.

 

Who knows, more than likely from the lore perspective it's actually each frame is a different person, but then again we could just be human's underneath the frame exchanging one for another and our body molding to suit it, or it molding to suit us and just happens to fill in the gaps with nanofibers.. who the hell knows! >:| Bah, skew logic. It's pixels filling in pixels with moar pixels.. and a ton of speculation.

 

Mostly though..

I doubt that we Frames are designed specifically toward one person, and only work for that one person. I imagine we are human, and we have the capability at this point to build our own warframes. If the humans of Earth in our present era (Dark Sector) could design a prototype Excalibur, I think we in this age whom seem to claim blueprints and build the frames from scratch are just making them for ourselves - not making them for dozens of different 'people'.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Azraill

[aldershot]

I believe Micheal Scott illustrate how Tennos work with different gender suits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_721NlQ9t8

Edited August 7, 2013 by aldershot

[Shepard.]

Shepard?

 

 

 

Okay okay! My needless jerking around aside, I've always thought that the Warframes themselves are... get this, actually the people!

 

The Technocyte virus was the virus engineered by the Orokin which created the infested. In science, "cyte' is applied as a suffix to words to indicate something cellular, or having to do with cells. "Techno" of course is referring to technology. So the technocyte may be some sort of hyper advanced cybernetic modifications on a cellular level.

 

With modifications like this, the Tenno could have been flesh and blood humans at some point, but were modified heavily by the virus to the point that biology and technology is no longer distinguished.

 

Of course there is the "Does that second-skin peel away just as easy as the first?" line that bosses always spout, so it might just be me being crazy.

 

I really lol'ed at that... I always enjoy the mass effect jokes I get :D

[DavidSPD]

I personally believe that each "pilot" of the warframes is a certain type of person with "unique" abilities, and the warframe "enhances" them. Maybe this virus altered people or whatever that later became "Tenno", I dunno. I believe Tenno are individuals and the warframes are specifically designed for them, which is why each of them have different bodytypes (Nova looking like a sixteen year old in the early stages of pregnancy vs. Ember who is very masculine and "built"). How there can be four of the same warframe on a mission? Probably just a gameplay decision to not restrict us.

 

Exalibur is stated as having amnesia, and is in cryo-sleep INSIDE of the suit... which brings a bit of questions to mind, mainly "was becoming Tenno forced upon these individuals? Is The Lotus ACTUALLY a friend, or are we being brainwashed?" Also want to know if that is Hayden, but I can't remember if DE confirmed or denied it... so maybe they just dodge the question when it's brought up.

 

Also since I'm sure someone is gonna quote me and say "This takes place x amount of time after Dark Sector", I know that. But we don't even know WHAT the Tenno are. Human? Demi-human? Cyborgs? Are they infected with some DNA altering virus? Do the suits sustain them? Is there a symbiotic relationship between the "pilot" and the suit? We don't know. Hayden's special ability (granted by the infection he suffered at the start) was the creation and manipulation of the Glaive, and his skin on his arm/shoulder (that his Glaive came from) being a solid-metal like substance. He didn't have Exalibur's supernatural abilities. He just shot people, threw his Glaive etc.

 

Hayden was confirmed in stream as the FIRST Tenno, but his suit wasn't part of his body. He found it. The Glaive "melded" with his flesh when he wasn't using it (it was a part of him), and he could still use the Glaive even while wearing the suit, that much I know. There could be more to it though, I don't know. Dark Sector didn't make much sense even after I played it start to finish a dozen or so times. Gonna dust it off & play through it again though... see if I can make more sense of it.

 

Rescue missions I don't think are rescuing Tenno, because The Lotus never explicitly states we're rescuing other Tenno. They might just be spies and/or rebels against the Grineer. *Shrug* A LOT of the voicework done for The Lotus says "Tenno" soooo much, I'd think if the hostages were Tenno she would say it, over and over again.

 

Honestly i don't think there's a definitive answer because I get the feeling DE themselves don't even know. As they start fleshing out the lore I think Hayden and Dark Sector will start to play a bigger role, if they're even allowed to take things directly from Dark Sector, I dunno how licensing works and whatever the hell else might get in the way. Since we have THE Glaive referencing Dark Sector maybe they can do what they want with it...

Edited August 7, 2013 by DavidSPD

[Blatantfool]

That theory has been disproven several times.

 

 This is truth.

 

 There are people in the suits. Humans even. 

[HomeyCDawg]

...So the question I ask is... are we male...or female...

 

Last time I checked it seems that about half are male and half are female.

[Cat_Has_My_Pipe]

Someone compare the Nyx Warframe and the Male hostage model. The hostages look pretty small, it wouldn't surprise me if he could fit into some of the smaller female warframes. 

[Blatantfool]

Last time I checked it seems that about half are male and half are female.

 

 Truth. Every character is the Gender they are plainly presented as.

[WhiteTrick]

i will state that Hald APEAR to be male and half APEAR to be female

 

their shape means nothing 

 

their wearing super advances biomechanical ninja suits

 

they can look however they want 

 

why?

 

they can manipulate and create

antimater,

wormholes,

singularities,

gravity wells,

elleportation,

disintigration  

 

and so much more

 

you CANNOT just slap gender on them simply by appearances  

[Blatantfool]

i will state that Hald APEAR to be male and half APEAR to be female

 

their shape means nothing 

 

their wearing super advances biomechanical ninja suits

 

they can look however they want 

 

why?

 

they can manipulate and create

antimater,

wormholes,

singularities,

gravity wells,

elleportation,

disintigration  

 

and so much more

 

you CANNOT just slap gender on them simply by appearances  

 

 But you can - because that is how the game pretty plainly presents the characters.

 

 You gonna tell me Samus Aran might STILL be a man in that suit despite the fact we've seen her without it - or that characters around her acknowledge her gender these days?

[Shepard.]

 Some of the descriptions concerning warframes do include pronouns such as him and her. That might be just a mistake though. If not, then doesn't that mean that different genders belong to their corresponding warframes? If so, then could we assume that we are all playing a female character ( which I have noting against), because some warframes that do have a feminine touch to them are unrealistic options for male characters...or maybe we're male crossdressers...either or...

[Eccentricity]

Why is this even a thing?

 

Think of it like having numerous World of Warcraft characters, or selecting a different battleframe and/or gender in Firefall; you are all of them, all of them are you. If you are using a female frame, then - for that moment - your avatar representing you in the game world is female. If you change to a male frame, you are now represented as male. No wishy-washy "how do you change genders when you change frames" nonsense, if your current frame is a particular gender, your avatar in the game world is also of that gender.

 

Perhaps a better example is Commander Shepard of Mass Effect; you can be male or female, have many different combinations of facial features, but regardless of what you've chosen, or how you look, or what's in your pants, you're still just "Commander Shepard".

 

Edit: speeling.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Eccentricity

[Blatantfool]

Why is this even a thing?

 

Think of it like having numerous World of Warcraft characters, or selecting a different battleframe and/or gender in Firefall; you are all of them, all of them are you. If you are using a female frame, then - for that moment - your avatar representing you in the game world is female. If you change to a male frame, you are now represented as male. No wishy-washy "how do you change genders when you change frames" nonsense, if your current frame is a particular gender, your avatar in the game world is also of that gender.

 

Perhaps a better example is Commander Shepard of Mass Effect; you can be male or female, have many different combinations of facial features, but regardless of what you've chosen, or how you look, or what's in your pants, you're still just "Commander Shepard".

 

 This is pretty much the truth.