The Temporary Future of Warframe Trials

[Takkov]

If you walk down that line, you can also argue that PoE is irrelevant to a huge playerbase after getting a couple zaws and stuff, so there is no point in continuing it further, hence it should be put on hold as well, as per your arguement. PoE loading times are horrible as is, eidolon hunts are boring af and not challenging at all. And PoE isnt captivating the playerbase, as most players are tired from having all that forced bounty gameplay and other mechanics from it. @Polterghozt

[Seffron]

Please do not remove raids or trials.

Many communities run raids daily basis (as do I) and this makes game much more different. If anything we need more of them, example JV NM ? Having 8 people together doing things is amazing, nothing in the game right now has this right now. 

Only way I see raids to be removed is when we have some amazing content where 8 people can come together. Right now we don't have no replacement...

 

[keTch-uP]

Please dont devalue Arcane Energize by putting it in as an Eidolon drop, no matter how much teamwork you think will be necessary for the new Eidolons it can't compare to the time and effort spent learning and running JV daily.

[Nyatalia]

I'm ok with the changes and all but i hope the arcanes have a cap like trials do because if is not that way is just gonna go as a middle finger to the people that had to put up with how buggy the trials were and having to get 1 arcane per day for a loooong time now.

[shira_nai]

Raid is one of the things holding me in this game. Is it time to say goodbye to warframe then?

[Revanx]

Please do not kill trials. As a member of RSB this is a horrible decision and we all strongly want them to say in the game. Trial missions can and should definitely be improved starting by attacking the game breaking bugs in them (also corpus raid?). Trials also have so much potential as its the only part of the game where 8 people can play together and you have to actually use your mind to finish the mission. Even if you dont touch them at all i would at least be content instead of infuriated that you're effectively deleting them.  At this point the raids and WFRSB have been the only reason i play the game anymore.

[Mixota]

1 minute ago, Twistedsparkle said:

while seeing them going frozen makes me bit sad
Im very excited about the fact that trials finally will get some sort of redesign in the future (just.... dont take as long the dark sector rework :D plz)

my biggest problem with the trials is the puzzle nature 
I just dont find them fun at all

I found it tedious and intimidating due to the fact that other players expect you to know the routine
I also didnt like it that they force you to communicate through either text or voice channels
while I understand that this was the point I just dont personally like that

they were also very hard to understand
you were almost completely reliant on other people explaining what do you have to do

the other problem was definitely the "cheese or nothing" meta
because of the fact people wanted to farm these in the most efficient way and since you cant do these without atleast 3 other players
that meant that for the most part people just chose crowd control specialists and spesific builds in order to simply stop the enemy... not kill them

this meant that you didnt get to do nearly as much as you liked to do what warframe does best
the combat

in the future I personally would love to have a raid more focused on combat rather than puzzles and confusing objectives
something like a series of challenging waves of enemies with a simple objective and loads of bosses that are simple to understand but hard to fight
(this is the time to take notes from dark souls games)

I also would like if there was a 1-2 player variation and 4-8 player variations separately
I also would prefer that I could be able to play these as much as I want.. not just once a day (I also dont understand why sorties dont reward you more than once)

 

Google and take a look at the raid schoolbus (or well i guess i wouldve suggested that), the meta S#&$ and people always expecting you to know 100% what to do is a side effect of recruitment chat, the schoolbus is a much more pleasant please to find raid groups in. Though i guess that's irrelevant now.

[OverFlowKyuubi]

Yeah not so sure about that there DE. Been part of RSB for a while, and its probably the main reason I kept going back to Warframe and doing raids with new people. You take away raids, you might end up losing that extra portion of people you got from the eidolon expansion. Im just saying, disabling your only remote end game to your game is probably not the smartest idea. 

[CryoSpecter]

53 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

In an upcoming Mainline Update this week on PC, Shrine of the Eidolon, we will be adding Arcanes as rewards to the Teralysts (specific variants TBD) on the Plains of Eidolon. Taking down a Teralyst mirrors the tactics of a Trial in terms of teamwork and communication, but can also be done as a lower-level player if properly prepared. Adding Trial Arcanes as a reward from the Teralysts is the first step in the overall plan to temporarily put Trials to rest.

One complaint I've heard is that it seems like it's being arcanes will be trivialized in their acquisition. One solution I've heard mentioned is that maybe have arcane reward caps like we have Maroo Ayatan caps and current Trial reward caps? I do like putting them on Eidolons, but I also agree that they're not something that should be quickly grinded in a week. Another possible solution is make them bps available from Onkko? That way bps are MR capped.

[Fari]

Wonder what this'll do to arcane prices, guess it depends how rare the drops are.

[Neyo]

15 minutes ago, Pyus said:

 

Mar 18, 2015 - As a result there will be an immediate Dark Sector Armistice following the launch of PvP 2.0 to give our community of PvP Tenno enough time to enjoy Cephalon Capture and provide feedback on the adjustments we've made so far.

Just like how my pet turtle Scruffles was temporarily transferred to a "Turtle Ranch" in Arkansas where it could play in the wheat fields and eat lettuce all day.

 

This.

[VexExodus]

i need this change in my life, finally i can farm some arcanes

[Venn2]

A sad day indeed, and filled with bitter disappointment.

[-L0rdTentacles-]

[Mixota]

2 minutes ago, shira_nai said:

Raid is one of the things holding me in this game. Is it time to say goodbye to warframe then?

Imagine i'll be joining you, and i doubt we'll be alone, this is taking a large portion of the remaining veteran playerbase out behind the barn and putting a bullet in their skull.

[Urlan]

Well, good to have a heads-up on this at least. Trials haven't been very approachable for their existence and I welcome them being re-looked at and their idea improved before being integrated back into the game. That said, I feel more information on the fate of arcanes would be useful, as further options into making them more functional to players. I hope that the devstream will address how the Eidolons will drop the arcanes and the plan going forward for both the eventual return of Trials and Dark Sector Conflicts - though I don't think a PvP mode aided last time - and would be interested if they become more a community engaging element versus ego trips for a few clans or alliances. Either way, I hope it works out; Trials were among the least played content, above archwing and Conclave - the least played - in my experience, I hope this allows for them to approach more players and become content that players want to run.

[-FF-Kotel]

Rip best part of warframe :c

[Deusless]

Alright, I generally don’t talk on the forums, because I don’t really care either way about updates as long as the game gets better, and the community grows. Raids have been neglected for a long time, people use to run them hardcore when they first came out, and now the market for arcanes is so inflated that you’d have to spend the equivalent of $100 to buy one of the “top end” sets, or grind hard for a chance at it, which could take you the entire year. As a veteran player, who has played since the month, if not the week, the game released out of closed beta, I don’t care if you remove them temporarily, or even permanently. If they’re reworked, wonderful. Add new functions to make operators a part of it, fix bugs, make them harder. That would be awesome. If they’re removed? That’s not a slap in the face to me. If you’re only logging onto the game for ONE thing, only doing that one thing every day, you’re better off letting your character gain dust and move on

 

Being a veteran player doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme, spending a load of money doesn’t make your opinion more valuable. If you don’t like the decision, state your opinion from the view of ANY player, and if you can’t deal with the change going through or not, pick another mode of gameplay or move on.

/rant

[Twistedsparkle]

4 minutes ago, mix0ta said:

Google and take a look at the raid schoolbus (or well i guess i wouldve suggested that), the meta S#&$ and people always expecting you to know 100% what to do is a side effect of recruitment chat, the schoolbus is a much more pleasant please to find raid groups in. Though i guess that's irrelevant now.

oh yes I did invest time trying to investigate the mechanics
I also did join raid schoolbus and I had pretty pleasant time with them

but lemme ask you
why does the player have to do this?
it makes no sense creating so much intimidation for a game mode

it should be better accessible

[Kylo.]

The only missions that require teamplay get removed? Why even play with anyone anymore...

[SSI_Seraph]

Can't wait for everybody to run around spam farming the Eidolon variants and getting the sets people farmed/farmed plat for for months in weeks only to see them get nerfed as a consequence. 

I hope that they are at least a decent challenge or are locked to one per day each.

Sometimes things need to be earned not spoon fed. Gotta love how everything is made rn to decrease the difficulty level and accomodate new players (which is nice don't get me wrong) but we still can't get decent endless rewards or challenging content.

[Nitro747]

I just hope it won't take so many years to come back as the Dark Sectors... 

[--Nef-Anyo--]

Sad day in deed. Least we got hundreds of useless Arcane Deflections to enjoy sitting in our inventory while we wait for raids to be reworked 4 years later like dark sectors :)  I can see alot of raiders from clans just moving on from the game. I remember we were told the Arcanes were staying where they were but thats been proven to be a lie. Excellent work DE as always. 

[Kylo.]

1 minute ago, Nitro747 said:

I just hope it won't take so many years to come back as the Dark Sectors... 

You mean, never?

[daExile]

For once something that is downright disappointment to me, and I fail to see a real reason for shutting existing raids down until those "changes aimed at low-level players" are actually made.

 

Offering repeated runs for eidolons instead of them? Yeah thanks but no thanks, it's too bloody shallow to make a remotely acceptable substitute. What, "eidolon hunt can be done with lowlevel in party"? So can any raid.

 

So, excuse me for not buying this. >:(