Ash Buff And Nerf Needed

[CaptainHugeKatana]

Ash is truly ninja,by look and powers! That alright.

 

-Remove Ash's 3rd power Teleport,and replace it with power called Blade Master

 

Blade Master-For a short time Ash will do special melee combos with high chances of critical hits.During using this power,Ash can use only his  melee,and it is invincible.

Need 75 energy for using this power

 

-Reduce Ash's shield capacity from 300 to 250 ,and buff sprint speed 1.15->1.3.

 

-Reduce armor from 50 to 30,and buff power 150 ( 30 lvl max ) to 225

 

After this buff and nerf,Ash will become truly master of stealth,power and melee ,but it will be something more vulnerable.

 

Thoughts?

Edited August 8, 2013 by CaptainHugeKatana

[LordMidnightX]

I would prefer something along these lines to make him more of an assassin stealth melee type frame

 

I would say move teleport to the first ability and give it a random bladestorm animation that does reasonable damage and ends with you behind the enemy ready to melee them, not stupid delay flip thing

 

2nd ability- smoke screen is fine the way it is but could last a little long maybe

 

3rd ability- a Melee buff to damage and critical chance to the whole team just to make him the ultimate melee frame assassin

 

4th ability- Blade Storm- reworked- Ash spins rapidly becoming a tornado with his wrist blade things sticking out. He is mobile during this and incoming damage is reduced and he can't be staggered/stunned/ knocked down. Tares whatever he runs into to pieces

Edited August 8, 2013 by LordMidnightX

[Shion963]

OR rework Teleport to put you behind an enemy, and daze them so we can execute a backstab. Y'know, like mentioned in previous Livestreams.

[Tarudizer]

....No.

 

OR rework Teleport to put you behind an enemy, and daze them so we can execute a backstab. Y'know, like mentioned in previous Livestreams.

Yes.

[Hezekiah]

I'd turn "teleport" into a single strike of the bladestorm,  Like one individual bladestorm hit, or even a radial damage strike at the teleport locations. That way I could teleport into a mob and daze them all at once, like a  ninja.

[Endrance]

Ash is fine how it is, might get a tweak on the teleport though. Only problem is the glitched bladestorm

[Phoenix86]

Ash is truly ninja,by look and powers! That alright.

 

-Remove Ash's 3rd power Teleport,and replace it with power called Blade Master

 

Blade Master-For a short time Ash will do special melee combos with high chances of critical hits.During using this power,Ash can use only his  melee,and it is invincible.

Need 75 energy for using this power

 

-Reduce Ash's shield capacity from 300 to 250 ,and buff sprint speed 1.15->1.3.

 

-Reduce armor from 50 to 30,and buff power 150 ( 30 lvl max ) to 225

 

After this buff and nerf,Ash will become truly master of stealth,power and melee ,but it will be something more vulnerable.

 

Thoughts?

 

Not sure if serious or...

 

You show all the debuffs to "balance" the crit increase but you also say he's invincible... lol what's the point of reducing shields and armor if he's invincible??

 

As others above me said a good rework for teleport would simply add a stagger or KD effect at the end of it.

 

(also the 'single bladestorm' idea is nice but maybe kinda OP considering the current bladestorm's dmg)

[CaptainHugeKatana]

I didnt say that he is invincible,I told about power,that he's invincible till doing that new power...

However,do you guys agree about buffing power by reducing armor and,buffing sprint speed by reducing shield capacity?

[LordMidnightX]

Not sure if serious or...

 

You show all the debuffs to "balance" the crit increase but you also say he's invincible... lol what's the point of reducing shields and armor if he's invincible??

 

As others above me said a good rework for teleport would simply add a stagger or KD effect at the end of it.

 

(also the 'single bladestorm' idea is nice but maybe kinda OP considering the current bladestorm's dmg)

it doesn't have to get the current blade storm damage just a reasonable amount of damage like any other first ability. I would use this all the time if it was cheap and put me behind a stunned enemy so I would actually melee something. 

[Deathb6x]

Huh, that might actually work.

Interesting!

[Phoenix86]

I didnt say that he is invincible,I told about power,that he's invincible till doing that new power...

However,do you guys agree about buffing power by reducing armor and,buffing sprint speed by reducing shield capacity?

 

mmh well than edit ur post because it's misleading :p

it seems he becomes invincible for the whole duration (not only during its activation)

[Endrance]

I didnt say that he is invincible,I told about power,that he's invincible till doing that new power...

However,do you guys agree about buffing power by reducing armor and,buffing sprint speed by reducing shield capacity?

The only problem of Ash is like i've said before.

 

Glitched Bladestorm, and malfunction mechanic of Teleport, since it teleport you to the front (and it should be to the back) not to mention you lost half second to regain control of your frame, meanwhile, being an easy target.

 

The only way, atm to evade this issue, is pop up a smoke screen, then teleport. But that is Energy Consuming.

 

 

Nevertheless, the only change Ash needs, is fix the glitched ultimate, and a bit of tweak at teleport. No shields, speed, health, damage etc change needed

[ChickenBar]

don't you dare touch Teleport.

[Dalazore]

I really like the teleport idea. I dont know if it is the same 4 you, but when I teleport I always get tirectly attaked, and that always interrupts my chargind melee attack D;  it's very annoying. right now i don't use the teleport mod anymore

[baldy117]

ash doesnt need a buff or nerf the 3 and 4 skill needs a bit of fixing and BAM its a good frame

[Ronyn]

don't you dare touch Teleport.

Why?

You don't want to either stun/daze the enemy or end up behind them?

You are attached to appearing directly in front (with a delay from animation) of a bad guy intent on killing you?

[ChickenBar]

Why?

You don't want to either stun/daze the enemy or end up behind them?

You are attached to appearing directly in front (with a delay from animation) of a bad guy intent on killing you?

hmm, i meant don't remove Teleport. some tweaks are always nice.

[milkor88]

Sounds like offense-based loki then, lol.

[Wolfstorm18]

Dont touch anything. Ash is perfect the way it is now.

 

And I thank DE for having solved the issue with blade storm.

 

Now Ash is my favorite warframe.

[Endrance]

And I thank DE for having solved the issue with blade storm.

 

They haven't. They are still fixing.

Still, Teleport could use a tweak.

[Ronyn]

hmm, i meant don't remove Teleport. some tweaks are always nice.

ooo ok. I getcha now. I agree. :)

[Zareek]

I disagree with all of these. As Ive said before, a few things I WOULD like to see on Ash, is poison on shurikens, and rework teleport into a more stealthier ability, but still teleport. As it is right now, its still helpful.

[KEL_UM]

i just wanted to teleport freely without the aiming sistem. would be better as a mobility skill to atack and avoid damage 

plus with smokscreen would look more like a ninja

[basilioss]

Blade Master making Ash invincible is not going to be well received. It will be Iron Skin 2 all over again. Also, Ash isn't a caster frame. He shouldn't have  extra power. If you notice, all of the more durable frames have less energy, and Ash has the highest health tier. Shields are in 3 tiers: 225, 300, and 450 at max. You would have to nerf his shields down to 225, not 250. Overall, all Ash NEEDS is a fix to teleport. 

[Fatbluck]

i just wanted to teleport freely without the aiming sistem. would be better as a mobility skill to atack and avoid damage 

plus with smokscreen would look more like a ninja

I really like this idea. Ever since I first got Ash I wished I could freely teleport. Also, the flip animation's got to go.

 

As for those who say Ash has nothing to offer a team.....Maybe group smoke screen? Maybe if you tap the power 3 you get normal smoke screen, and if you hold it you get group smoke screen and it costs more energy? Would be essentially 5 powers, but Ash deserves 5 powers.

 

....would also be OP, but Ash deserves to be OP.