Dwolfknight Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Contrary to what people think, Zephyr is not ugly because of its mesh, Tennogen proves it. What makes Zephyr ugly can be separated into 2 problems, one Major and one Minor, Texture (Normal & Specular map, maybe metallic) and un-tintable parts. For a Bird frame, Zephyr normal skin sure is shiny, the amount of light reflection it has makes her extremely hard to color in general but especially with dark colors, her skin shouldn't be glossy but matte, giving the impression of a feathery texture and continuing with the feather theme, she should have a normal map that reflects that, with a subtle feather pattern all over her (except legs and feets), that in combination with her new specular map would give her the proper look of a bird and less of a fish. That is not all, however, for some reason, she has White un-tintable parts on her helmet, this was fixed on other frames that suffered from the same problem but why not Zephyr? Simply make them tintable. From all the Fashion frames I've seen NONE use either her normal skin or her non-tennogen helmets and for good reason. But not everyone can or wants to get tennogen. Now if people on tennogen can make Zephyr look good without messing with her mesh I'm sure that DE can as well. TL:DR Less Gloss, More Matte, Normal Map with Feathers, Make white bits tintable. Edited February 15, 2018 by Dwolfknight added TL:DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NullSaint Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Matte, you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I mean tbh I still think her mesh is s**t But yes DE haven't PBR'd her yet so she looks terrible, and while the immortal skin I believe doesn't have this issue it looks disgusting 1 minute ago, NullSaint said: Matte, you say? The peacock doesn't look like cheap plastic so yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 just wait for zephyr prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The mesh could use some streamlining, a new diffuse map and preferably the winglike bits could be animated to only protrude during ability use, aimglide or sprint akin to Nova's thrusters. There's some hope in the upcoming Deluxe skin though it seems to lack the grace and lightweightness of a majestic bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwolfknight Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, NullSaint said: Matte, you say? That still isn't glossy, it has vivid colors, but it still is mostly matte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwolfknight Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, GinKenshin said: just wait for zephyr prime I Hope her prime will look good and wish they would fix her normal variant at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklusterseph Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dwolfknight said: TL:DR Less Gloss, More Matte, Normal Map with Feathers, Make white bits tintable. Agreed. The immortal skin helps a liitle but the normal helmets still retain the cheap looking shininess. Edited February 15, 2018 by blacklusterseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Lycentia Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 hours ago, GinKenshin said: just wait for zephyr prime *looks at Oberon* *looks at Oberon Prime* NOT a guaranteed improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, (Xbox One)Lycentia said: *looks at Oberon* *looks at Oberon Prime* NOT a guaranteed improvement. she can't be worse that what she already is ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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