[DE]Grzegorz Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Only basic, quick and rudimentary testing has been executed so far though the results seem to be consistent and predictable, the stealth multiplier offers unexpected amounts of XP bonus. Grineer Elite Lancers on Adaro, Sedna will be used as testing subjects. Xp boosters weren't used. According to scaling formula provided on the wiki: Current Affinity = Base Affinity × ( 1 + Current Level0.5 × 0.1425 ) , which is generally considered to be accurate as well as levels of enemies in the node the Elite Lancer should reward 270; 272; 274; 276 or 278 affinity per kill for level 32, 33, 34, 35 and 36 Grineer Lancer respectively. It matches what can be seen in game: However, once we get 100% bonus from first stealth kill, we should expect 540-586 affinity per kill, which we do get... ...and plenty more? 1360 is exactly 5x as much as 272, but that should be either 400 or 500% stealth bonus. At 200% we get... 1644, which is 6x as much as 274 (acceptable base variance). At 300% we get 1890 which is 7x 270 (lancer lv32) We can start to see a pattern emerge. At 400% we expect to see 8x multiplier... 276x8 And finally, at 500% we should expect 9x base xp multiplier... Which we do get. However every kill after that results in higher XP multiplier of x10 though I might've simply shifted the xp gains and stealth multiplier bonus by accident. We can clearly see that stealth multiplier seems to use base affinity*(5+(bonus level)) formula for some reason, resulting in the first stealth kill giving full 500% XP bonus and final bonus results in affinity being increased tenfold. It is arguable whether the UI doesn't reflect the bonus properly or the stealth affinity boost has been implemented incorrectly, however it needs a correction in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LeBlingKing Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Welp, it was nice while it lasted. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroidBestWaifu Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Delet this, mah focus farm is in danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Yes, I noticed as well that I got a stupidly large number from the first stealth kill, but I didn't have the numbers to back it up like you, so great job there. 19 minutes ago, (PS4)LeBlingKing69 said: Welp, it was nice while it lasted. RIP 15 minutes ago, HydroidBestWaifu said: Delet this, mah focus farm is in danger If it's broken then it's broken and it should be fixed. By the looks of it, you two are the kind that would use cheats in games if given the opportunity. This is not that kind of game, and I prefer to get things done properly without having to rely on questionable duration crutches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RPColten Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Interesting. I always thought the affinity counter was inaccurate since it takes far more than five level-30 Grineer Elite Lancers to fill up the Syndicate Weapon gauge, of which requires 1000 weapon affinity points to be earned before using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegarick Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, -N7-Leonhart said: By the looks of it, you two are the kind that would use cheats in games if given the opportunity. By the looks of it, you're the kind that takes things a bit too seriously. Edited February 18, 2018 by Rickman108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispu9 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Or the formula from wiki is wrong ? Edited February 18, 2018 by Crispu9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_NOORS Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, -N7-Leonhart said: Yes, I noticed as well that I got a stupidly large number from the first stealth kill, but I didn't have the numbers to back it up like you, so great job there. If it's broken then it's broken and it should be fixed. By the looks of it, you two are the kind that would use cheats in games if given the opportunity. This is not that kind of game, and I prefer to get things done properly without having to rely on questionable duration crutches. Have you ever capped focus daily with no sortie eximus? Have you EVER tried farming focus daily? Do you realise HOW many people didn't even bother with focus farm until eidolons came out? Nice try lumping us that tried to make the grind reasonable with cheaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just now, Mad_NOORS said: Have you ever capped focus daily with no sortie eximus? Have you EVER tried farming focus daily? Do you realise HOW many people didn't even bother with focus farm until eidolons came out? Nice try lumping us that tried to make the grind reasonable with cheaters. Focus != Stealth Abusing stealth is one way to make focus farm bearable as the system as a whole seems to be completely abandoned in not even half-finished state, but there's thread about that already. Currently the stealth multiplier is bugged, whether DE reduces the XP gains or changes the UI element is up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-N7-Leonhart Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Mad_NOORS said: Have you ever capped focus daily with no sortie eximus? Have you EVER tried farming focus daily? Do you realise HOW many people didn't even bother with focus farm until eidolons came out? Nice try lumping us that tried to make the grind reasonable with cheaters. No, I don't even play this game for like 3.5 years, so I wouldn't know.... I have lenses or greater lenses on pretty much every single piece of gear that I use. Gathered of course with constant work over the years. And that brings me to the initial point. I don't need some tricks to do this, when I worked constantly for a long time towards these goals. A mentality someone as yourself better gain as well, if you want to play more than a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorise Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 5:55 PM, -N7-Leonhart said: Yes, I noticed as well that I got a stupidly large number from the first stealth kill, but I didn't have the numbers to back it up like you, so great job there. If it's broken then it's broken and it should be fixed. By the looks of it, you two are the kind that would use cheats in games if given the opportunity. This is not that kind of game, and I prefer to get things done properly without having to rely on questionable duration crutches. Can't blame them really, the system is garbage. 19 hours ago, -N7-Leonhart said: No, I don't even play this game for like 3.5 years, so I wouldn't know.... I have lenses or greater lenses on pretty much every single piece of gear that I use. Gathered of course with constant work over the years. And that brings me to the initial point. I don't need some tricks to do this, when I worked constantly for a long time towards these goals. A mentality someone as yourself better gain as well, if you want to play more than a few months. You'd have to to get through all the garbage to get to the good stuff :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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