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Suggestion for Loki: My personal favorite Waframe right now. Yet I wish sometime he had more of an impact on all missions and not be just a situational Warframe IMO. The power of the Void has many powers that are frightening and also unnatural to a point that can drive a whole crew mad to kill each other and create mistrust... With Loki this is a terrifying reality as he embodies the best and worst qualities of the void it self. Using the power of the Void Loki can create Echos not only of himself but of others to manipulate the battlefield, becoming invisible at will or parting it to others and creating Echoes of himself and allies to create chaos and distrust among his enemies like a deadly game, just like in the past the Void did for Zariman Ten Zero long ago to its crew but chose to spare its children. So here goes... 

Decoy: I only suggest to enhance its function. Instead of just creating a default hologram with some standard gun, why not make a "Specter Clone" that actually looks like the caster Loki Warframe. 
What if he moves around or Follows me? Well he can't his AI will be allow to function and move around a mark area, this mark area will also function as a stage where you can use "Switch Teleport" so you don't really have to depend on switching with the Clone Specter only. IF you switch with the Clone Specter you will also be moving the mark area with the clone. The area of effect of this power and its range or how long it last will be determined by mods. As long as this power last the Loki who cast it will become invisible until time runs out or until the Specter Clone dies. 
"Marking a Enemy Target or a Friendly unit or Team member" will make them invisible and the Specter Clone will be of that of the Ally instead of you. If it was an enemy you will transform the enemy as you making it hostile to all around him, the enemies keeps behaving as such with its equip weapon and its own abilities the only change will be cosmetic. This action requires more that one click of the power for confirmation.

Switch Teleport:  This power is where the real chaos of of the God of lies and Mischief begins and the why this warframe was named "Loki".  The power remains the same but with a few deadly exceptions... 


Switching with an ally will make that ally invisible while Loki will take the appearance of that ally "only difference will be his powers, weapons and energy color. But doing this with and enemy will result in the same for your shape shift with the exception of these few suggestions for it...

 
1) Enemy becomes teleported with a Radiation proc, confuse, vulnerable to a finisher or friendly fire or if its weak, it will appear as pile of dead broken dismembered flesh as Loki Switches the stress of this, may cause the enemies body as void energy pulls with relentless force in the teleport, ripping it apart.


2) You become the enemy and they are not able to damage you for the duration of the efect, all locks will be as if they were unlock and alarms will not work and you can pass them with no fear of being knock down or detecte becuse it recognize you a authorise personal. The caster and friendly players will see a ghostly glow around the friendly Loki that will make them recognize the effect. Same goes if they are under it themselves, but can only be one active effect at a time.


Swiching  Teleport has very small AoE (its range, duration or strenght can be affecte by mods) that can be cast anytime in battle that has different functions:


1) If your being bombarded by a barrage of melee attacks or a rain of bullets/missile or even a persistent damage Aura, for the duration of the spin it will reflect it back at your attacker with 2x their initial damage combine with your own Power Strength. This can be further enhance with mods like Reflection • Reflex Guard • Retribution, not to mention the range, duration and strength mods. 


2) Switching with a object that has a health bar like an Exploding container will result in you moving to that location and detonating to explode at your location and making yourself invisible for a short time.


Radial Disarm: Only thing I will add to this is that upon activation this ability for the duration of it, will make everyone look like the Caster Loki and its teammates while at the time making them look like the targeted enemy team or invisible if its to hard to implement. Also Loki will draw out shoulder blades of Void energy that can look like "energy looking tonfa Kronen" that will make him parry all attacks with 0 damage taken and will set enemies up for finishers or if parried a range attack return the damage and prone targets to a finisher.

New passive: Loki will treat all melee weapons as if they where equip with Covert Lethality and have reduce range where enemies can spot him.

Nekros Soul Punch: This power should be change to "Soul Steal"
Soul Steal should do what it says Steal the soul of an enemy KEEP it and use it to heal allies or consume it to heal your self if not use in the limited time kept, much like Broken Scepter does to dead Organic enemies (such as Lancers) will release Health Orbs, while robotic enemies (such as MOAs) will release Energy Orbs. Instead Robotics will restore shields Sentient will restore Energy and organics will restore Health, as it will directly suck it from the target and if you wish to use it as a weapon and Punch an enemy with it, depending on the enemy suck in initially, was Organic Flesh it will do Viral Proc, while if its was a Robotic it will do a Magnetic Proc, if it was Infested it will do Gas Proc, if it was Sentient it will do Radiation Proc, if its Corrupted it would do Corrosive Proc but only to the initial target... besides the normal Push back and knock down of other enemies near the target (These Status proc are also activated on the main target who original was suck out of its energy). The Damage taken by Soul Steal and Soul Punch can be augmented by the corresponding strength, duration or range mods.

 

Delux Skins Visuals for powers are a Must have:
Excalibur Proto-Armor - Exalted blade could be "EXALTED GLAIVE" he pulls out a Giant energy Proto-Glaive that he hurls to enemies instead of the normal blade waves.


Nekros Irkalla Skin - Change Shadows of the Dead to Hollow (or Echos) of the Dead, Shadows of the Dead look like Translucent Specters with added ghostly flames just like the Irkalla Skin has on it and his Scythe.
The list could go on but I think DE already agreed that they love to work on Delux skins this way, not to mention all the great suggestions the community bring up all the time related to this... I mean we have Rhino Delux looking like energy covering him and I really would like to see more of this expanded to all the Delux Skins.


Suggestion for Oberon Delux Skin: We already have seen Oberon as the Paladin in his default Warframe skin and his Druid side in his Feyarch skin. Why not give him a skin as a Fallen Paladin or Blackguard where he looks like a Demonic Black Knight and powers look like dark flames from hell or something dark? Maybe for hallowing skins? 

Operator: This is more of a question than a suggestion that came to me as I Hunted the Eidolon Sentient so please bare with me and take it as either of these...
Since we (Operator) have AMPS created from what apperars to be Sentient Tech. Is it possible that Sentients true Purpouse was to help enchance Tenno Operator them selves?
If this is true taking into account that Sentient CAN survive in space... Honhow enhancing Stalker and even [De]Steve mention we getting at some point Sentient Cannon Arm to use....Does this mean maybe that we can at some point in the future:


1) As we explore other planets and Hunt other Sentient Horrors, our operator will be enhance with gear and armor bits like we have on our hand, the AMPS
Example:
We go to Venus and hunt the Sentient Monster roaming there get its cores and rep and built and AMP Shield/Gaive/Sword weapon to enhance our melee combat as Operator.
We go to Uranus and get AMP archwing to use operator underwater and in space... we go to Eris the infested Homeworld and we get protective adaptive AMP armor bits similar to the Stalker has that helps us adapt to strong aura/toxic/Disruption fields as an Operator. Etc, Etc...?


By the time we Find Lotus or Rescue her we are full grown Adults not only masters of our Warframes but Tenno Warriors ourselves capable and powerful enough to fight an the Immortal Orokin or anything for that matter.


Note: Yes I want operator to finally have full Grown Big Muscular Bodies or Sexy bodies or just normal looking bodies maybe even fat or chubby looking too, hell why not! (I personally find then very attractive! :laugh:) You know, like how each one of our Warframes  is unique (Option on this would be very cool like making an operator look buff like Rhino or as Sexy as Ember/Nyx) Voice to match such grown up Tenno would be nice too.

Helminth Charger: Right now this Companion seems to only have very few things to make him different from a Kubrow, but it also makes sense since we hatch it from a Kubrow egg combining it with the Helminth Cyst? So what if we could feed him DNA to enhance or change its abilities or functions. Infestations best trait its its rapid evolution.
Example: Now that his fully grown we can use Kavat DNA to change his behavior and powers.

OR:
Get him Wildlife DNA (Desert Skate, Fish or any Plains Wildlife) it could becomes an Expert hunter, flying, swiming or even when feeded Sentient cores he gain special atribute to fight an Eidolon! Now imagine if you manage to get DNA or feed it Brilliant Cores from the any of the Eidolon's of the Plains... what abilities could it get!
How to get DNA? You scan them... even fish can be scan, and with a Helios that should not be a problem. SUGGESTION: Ones you have the full scan of Wildlife you can replicate the DNA just as you replicate a Blueprint. So you don't have to go scan again the beasts.
Also as a Suggestion this could be expanded to Faction enemies and robots... As the infestation have been seem to adapt to it. Imagine your Hemilith charger behaving and having weapons like the Hyena Pact does! Or throw tiny exploding Rollers from its hide OR throw Spikes like the Juggernaut or have the healing aura of an Ancient Infested or mimic  aura of an Eximus or even mimic one or two boss abilities would it be epic, right?


Companions in general, suggestion in the Open World: They SHOULD be the main choice to bring with us and have additional AI behavior added to them beyond mods or its diferent types, like Kavat naturally catching fish... Kubrows hunting animals scratching out Ore and Gems and bringing its resources to you. Helminth Charger good at killing and absorbing Sentient cores/oro/energy (powers the lures) OCULYST, BATTALYST, CONCULYST or VOMVALYST. Imagine you hunting the Eidolon and your companions basically jump at it not letting it shot at you or not cast some abilities or even chomping away its shields or even mowing down its weak points in mid air not letting go?
I know Sentinels with their Vacuum basically is the best choice for everything... but if Companions did a bit more Im sure that would not be the case at least not in an Open World Scenario.

Fisher Hai-Luk talks at us about "some unspecable horrors in the waters of the Plains"
I suggest you expand on that, Maybe meeting the terrifying Organic versions of the "Golden Maws" or Hydroid creature from the deep for us to hunt would be great addition when hunting in the plains or fishing in the waters... can you imagine you relaxing fishing and suddenly a Beast like the GOLDEN MAW or Hydroid creature from the deep grabs you and takes you underground or underwater to fight and kill or be killed! They be like the Plains Assassin but since its wildlife DE could add it that it also attacks and kills Grineer and then WE get the JUMP ON it instead!!!! Oh it be terrifying but existing!!!! This is where the suggestion of companions would shine the best as they defend us and as we ready ourselves to fight or flee!

That is all folks! lol

This are all suggestion and crazy ideas I acomulated in my spare time under my circumstances and as so I did not add any numbers or details of how to implement it in game so it be balance, but I'm sure the talented Community Tenno and DE have their ways to see how it could work if they find any of these ideas any good.

Thank you for reading, Also forgive my spelling as I use the corrector to fix some of my wording since English is not my native languege.

 

See ya at the Plains Tenno! 
 

Edited by 0zryel
Correcting some orthographic and syntax errors
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Loki. As he is, he is currently labelled the "perfect" frame. He is over-powered and under-powered.
He has his caps. Intentionally. He can not teleport to objects. But Ash can.
He can do some of what you want already with augments.
The reason he does not do 'more' with his kit, as per some of your suggestions (covert lethality, exalted tonfa) is because it would imbalance him more than he may already be.

Nekros. Not sure how effective this would be in helping what he does.

Excalibur, would his melee stance change as well? So he wont be a swordsman with sword combos, but a glaive man with glaive combos? I do agree about the energy waves though. Would like to see them as glaives when the Proto skin is used.

NekrosDE skin. ...ok.

OberonDE skin. Maybe for his Proto skin they will do that.

...I think that goes against lore. Instead we can forcefully harvest their parts.

Companion stuff. - It needs a pass over. When you say stopping the enemy from attacking. Will they be sacrificing themselves? Would we have to revive them after... as if they aren't downed enough as it is.

I too would like to see more of the Golden Maw. But she might be talking about the Glappid, or the big dead shark South West on the Plains.

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On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 AM, INight00 said:

Loki. As he is, he is currently labelled the "perfect" frame. He is over-powered and under-powered.
He has his caps. Intentionally. He can not teleport to objects. But Ash can.
He can do some of what you want already with augments.
The reason he does not do 'more' with his kit, as per some of your suggestions (covert lethality, exalted tonfa) is because it would imbalance him more than he may already be.

True I agree. He is by far the most perfect warframe. I even have him mod to do most of what I suggested lol. Melee auto-parry/reflect/retribution modify with a Radial Disarm that confuses as I found that his other abilities seem to work and last just fine without modes. Since Loki is so fast I quickly learned that I was constantly doing melee kills as enemies usually where in reach by the time I ran into them

I just wish reflect was more effective, it seems that after the channeling update it's reflected damage was greatly reduce, that OR, the shields and life goes down way quicker than the reflected damage even if channeling, I notice also it doesn't add any part of your melee damage to the reflected damage but I think that's intended, still useful thought. Anyway it was just a suggestion... I still enjoy Loki as it is and if any change comes Ill still use him... he just looks too cool to be left on the bench and also I love playing in very impractical ways even my favorite weapons are usually the most archaic choosing bow/throw weapons and preferably Glaive or some cool but odd choice for melee, I was so happy how DE started to add special mechanics for such weapons it was like the perfect union between the weapons of old with the future of tomorrow. :satisfied:

On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 AM, INight00 said:

Nekros. Not sure how effective this would be in helping what he does.

Well, Soul Punch is kinda useless, even with the mod that Resurrect down players (IMO it should do that without the mod but that's just me). I notice that all rag doll enemies don't take colliding damage and almost no fall damage. You can't blast or even cast it, on lot of thing specially in the plains... Flying Grineer, Automated machinery weapons or any kind of flying ship/drone, that obviously include the Eidolon. I thoght adding a draining even would make it more useful... it be great if one could drain to a point of draining Eximus or Nullifying bubbles and through back at the enemy or use it to help your self or teammates. Still its really cool to blast the annoying Nox of a cliff into the horizon! lol

On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 AM, INight00 said:

Excalibur, would his melee stance change as well? So he wont be a swordsman with sword combos, but a glaive man with glaive combos? I do agree about the energy waves though. Would like to see them as glaives when the Proto skin is used.

Well I only suggested this because of how the original Proto Excalibur (In the Dark Sectors Universe) use to be, he was a master of the Glaive not the sword in that world, his infestation gave him the ability to summon a Special Glaive, I think his Chromatic Sword Mod takes inspiration of that as his glaive naturally took up elements from the environment.

On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 AM, INight00 said:

OberonDE skin. Maybe for his Proto skin they will do that.

...I think that goes against lore. Instead we can forcefully harvest their parts.

OOOOOOOOoooo I like the way you think! With so many Oberon Parts constantly dropping re-purposing such a wasted resource would make sense. Imagine the FIRST cosmetic skin you get to build Oberon the Destroyer Delux skin! I know its against the lore... but then again if its a Proto Skin anything can go with the lore... maybe he was a Infested Juggernaut, destroying the forest it until it was defeated and re-built as a protector? :surprised:

On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 AM, INight00 said:

Companion stuff. - It needs a pass over. When you say stopping the enemy from attacking. Will they be sacrificing themselves? Would we have to revive them after... as if they aren't downed enough as it is.

SO true! I hope DE can figure a good solution in the future about Companions. God I have invested so much forma in my Helminth Charger to be REALLY STRONG and he is actually, but to no avail he gets down just as well, also I notice that in the Eidolon Fight and even in the Plain they AI seems a bit wacky sometimes they just stand there doing nothing and taking hits. Not even mentioning the fact that Sentinels have Vacuum and Self-revive, there was even a Mod that would sacrifice it to revive you if you got downed! If that mod still was active that would make it even more difficult to even consider companions. He makes a good decoration in my Orbiter though as a pet. My hope is that by the time Nidus Primes comes up and Helminth Charger gets some Prime attention that companion vs sentinels is over, because if my Charger Gets PRIME I don't care if its useful or not Im sooooooo taking him with me everywhere I'm to much of a fan on how original and beautiful the Orokin Prime stuff looks! Does will be dificult time but its all for the endgame of Fashion Frame!!! (LOL joking) :crylaugh:

On 3/2/2018 at 10:09 AM, INight00 said:

I too would like to see more of the Golden Maw. But she might be talking about the Glappid, or the big dead shark South West on the Plains

Lol you might be right about that! GOD does things are terrifying and they be the perfect assassin predator the plains seems to be missing. I notice there are no real dangerous wild life, no lions or wolfs or even bears, not even wild kavats and kubrows... only at night do we see "something attacking us" and their just sentient not real wildlife. Hmmm maybe DE should add invasions to the Plains like infestation or Corpus fighting Grineer or different events beyond the Ghouls bounties? Can you imagine in day time, fighting Ghoulish Vay Hek Boss with a ghoul army? OH or a full scale Infested invasion where, JORDAS GOLEM flying in the plains commanding LEPHANTIS who commands a PHORID with a pact of Juggernauts and infested running through the plains? Or even a Corpus Invasion with a bunch of Corpus machine bosses and a Corpus army fighting Vay Hek Grineer army where the player in the plains decide on the spot who to help as the bosses try to persuade you to their side. Invasion on the plains would sure be something else!! Ahhh one can only dream because I think it be a nightmare for DE to program in game... though it would help break the normal routine in the plains. Then again with DE on the job anything is possible I have been led to believe over the years of playing Warframe, possibility are endless!!

 

Thank you for taking the time to read it and give your feed back you made really brought up a good realistic points of views about it and sorry I took sooo long to reply, when I connect I been aiming all my efforts to rank up my arcane and doing Edilon hunting gathering or fishing as I want to be ready for Venus map, also I'm a bit worried that Eidonlon would not be hunted as much when new content comes up. So I want to make sure I'm ready! After Tennocon all will be clear... Ooooo the suspense is killing me! :shocked:

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