Nox_Terminus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Kinjeto said: Would you care to explain to these forum people what you did for 1400 hours? Bringing up my time played is a moot argument, and the fact you dont realize that is extremely telling. Going by your hours you've spent 5.4 hours a day in warframe every single day for the last five years. Its a shame that means absolutely nothing in this discussion. You and I are anecdotal when it comes to discussing how Warframe should be changed and marketed for the majority of players. As regardless of what you or I think, they are more important. You say Long-term systems have been 'devalued' but I challenge you to understand those systems weren't being touched by the vast majority of players for the exact reason you think they were 'great'. Having to spend literal months grinding out focus (of which the majority was worthless, and still is) was not a marketable game mechanic, it was a chore. With the current system much of the tree remains mechanically insignificant but is attainable in a much more marketable time period and thus more people are dabbling in it. Though whether or not the system will see much use outside of Eidolons or customary energy regen has yet to be seen. Having to run hundreds of raids to get sets of arcanes you want for your warframe (of which the majority are still worthless) was not marketable or feasibly maintainable, and thus Raids were sacked, and arcanes were put into an acceptable challenge, with varying levels of 'difficulty'. This is a step forward, not a step back. With that said I would like to see Raids return some day, but that may not be possible. The log-in system is far more subjective, but to put it simply, it does not hurt the game to let people choose their reward every 50 days, because they still have to log in to get it. It just means people could get the Sigma & Octantis without sitting around for 2 years. If anything the fact they applied MR ranks to login rewards means they'll probably still be marginally time-gated to brand new players, and thus incentivize them to actually play the game and get through the MR instead of just log on and leave. This is how you make an actual argument. By not waving your time played around like a flaccid noodle and making actual points. Good Day Edited March 16, 2018 by Nox_Terminus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Holy **** bro, I'm done here. I'm not taking part in a forum discussion so I can get spammed PMs while trying to play the game. Get a life please.https://imgur.com/a/LP7iS Edited March 16, 2018 by Aggh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinjeto Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, SenorClipClop said: Have we considered the likelihood that, like the Login weapon, these Rivens will be gifted with their own free slots? 60 plat at least is a pretty nice gift. Yeah speaking of which we don't have enough information about the reward we know it's 3 Rivens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinjeto Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nox_Terminus said: Bringing up my time played is a moot argument, and the fact you dont realize that is extremely telling. Going by your hours you've spent 5.4 hours a day in warframe every single day for the last five years. Its a shame that means absolutely nothing in this discussion. You and I are anecdotal when it comes to discussing how Warframe should be changed and marketed for the majority of players. As regardless of what you or I think, they are more important. You say Long-term systems have been 'devalued' but I challenge you to understand those systems weren't being touched by the vast majority of players for the exact reason you think they were 'great'. Having to spend literal months grinding out focus (of which the majority was worthless, and still is) was not a marketable game mechanic, it was a chore. With the current system much of the tree remains mechanically insignificant but is attainable in a much more marketable time period and thus more people are dabbling in it. Though whether or not the system will see much use outside of Eidolons or customary energy regen has yet to be seen. Having to run hundreds of raids to get sets of arcanes you want for your warframe (of which the majority are still worthless) was not marketable or feasibly maintainable, and thus Raids were sacked, and arcanes were put into an acceptable challenge, with varying levels of 'difficulty'. This is a step forward, not a step back. With that said I would like to see Raids return some day, but that may not be possible. The log-in system is far more subjective, but to put it simply, it does not hurt the game to let people choose their reward every 50 days, because they still have to log in to get it. It just means people could get the Sigma & Octantis without sitting around for 2 years. If anything the fact they applied MR ranks to login rewards means they'll probably still be marginally time-gated to brand new players, and thus incentivize them to actually play the game and get through the MR instead of just log on and leave. This is how you make an actual argument. By not waving your time played around like a flaccid noodle and making actual points. Good Day Yeah we need like some time gated stuff. Maybe future systems (that won't be put into another system.) Yeah would like some form of trials/heavy mechanical thing to come. Yeah additionally hopefully systems that aren't compromised just by trading ingame as well but more gameplay/time based. Edited March 16, 2018 by Kinjeto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etan-gK Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 three rivens at once? I'll take that, it sure beats the daily pineapple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) The only real issue I see is.. what if a player is already capped out on Rivens, what then? I certainly hope DE wouldn't force us to get rid of 3 Rivens. Because if so I should quite playing till I can pick my log in path to completely avoid this cluster duck. Edited March 16, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfhsanseiIII Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 The 850 login isn’t one of the major ones. So, I’m alright with it. If it were the 900 day reward I’d be a little miffed. To be honest the sigils aren’t all that great. Some people may love them though. If if they’re going to change the system the way they described by allowing people to choose a reward path or something similar then. I can see offering a bit more variety as a good thing in the long run. New players will have something to look forward to. Veterans who’ve done the logins already will have all the rewards already so I don’t see it as anything but more incentive for newer players to keep logging in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox_Terminus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, jfhsanseiIII said: The 850 login isn’t one of the major ones. So, I’m alright with it. If it were the 900 day reward I’d be a little miffed. To be honest the sigils aren’t all that great. Some people may love them though. If if they’re going to change the system the way they described by allowing people to choose a reward path or something similar then. I can see offering a bit more variety as a good thing in the long run. New players will have something to look forward to. Veterans who’ve done the logins already will have all the rewards already so I don’t see it as anything but more incentive for newer players to keep logging in. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDarknessAlien Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 tysis rivens GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabask Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, Nox_Terminus said: This is how you make an actual argument. By not waving your time played around like a flaccid noodle and making actual points. Good Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Urabask said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabask Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, sleepychewbacca said: Kinjeto clearly needs to upgrade to a Bighotdog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepychewbacca Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Urabask said: Kinjeto clearly needs to upgrade to a Bighotdog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpite Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, --Q--Voltage said: 850 days logged in is the equivalent of 3 Sortie missions. That is just disheartening, especially when you know that you basically recieve Endo for 2+ years logged in. What happened to cool cosmetic sigils/glyphs every 50 days and weapons/mods/syandana for 100? Logging in does not require any effort. Complaining about free stuff for zero effort is not going to make DE like you more and give you better stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I don't think it is reasonable to lock any unique or useful content behind 800+ days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MopUpCrewman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Another QQ post by the Q clan. Checks out. But seriously, how do you manage to become more self entitled with each post? Try thinking about other players for once just like DE are. I approve of this reward, daily logins should NOT hold time gated exclusives (at least in it's current form). "But it shows how long we've been committed to the game!" And? Who cares? Is a horribly big playtime something to be proud of now? I'm at day 800 and I wish others could have the things I've gotten from the login system but for less time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K0bra Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 3 Rivens for 850 days log in is a joke. You can thank you by all the people who complained about the daily tribute system.They shot in they own feet with that because of their begrudge of good rewards. Edited March 16, 2018 by K0bra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, MopUpCrewman said: Another QQ post by the Q clan. Checks out. But seriously, how do you manage to become more self entitled with each post? Try thinking about other players for once just like DE are. I approve of this reward, daily logins should NOT hold time gated exclusives (at least in it's current form). "But it shows how long we've been committed to the game!" And? Who cares? Is a horribly big playtime something to be proud of now? I'm at day 800 and I wish others could have the things I've gotten from the login system but for less time. I wouldn’t pay attention to what this dude says, because just a few days ago he posted something about “its free stuff why do you complain?” Ofc the context is different but it’s still stupid contradiction Just ignore him, he’s basically here to get upvotes lol (I’m guessing he even has followers dedicated for that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Yeah because we definitely need even more sigils and glyphs. Not as if we can't use loads of them on one warframe at one time. Primed mod yeah would've been nice, but I think it's something to ease the gap in accessible content for the time being until the login rework. Valid point would be for those at 90/90. Maybe even 10 extra slots to bring that limit to 100 would've been better. Either way I do think it is a pretty lousy complaint you're making, a joke indeed... Edited March 16, 2018 by Valiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) I still need a 2nd Primed Fury for Helios. Login rewards have always been a messed up situation. 2 hours ago, sleepychewbacca said: Edited March 16, 2018 by Wolfdoggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 hey, if they come with Slots (pretty sure they do) it ain't all bad. that's 60P I'll save. if you don't want them, you could always give them away to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: hey, if they come with Slots (pretty sure they do) it ain't all bad. that's 60P I'll save. if you don't want them, you could always give them away to others. Well it'd be decent if it went past the current limit. If it doesn't then it's one less little bonus which might've pleased people a touch more if they're 'that distressed' over the 850 day reward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Valiant said: Well it'd be decent if it went past the current limit. If it doesn't then it's one less little bonus which might've pleased people a touch more if they're 'that distressed' over the 850 day reward... I don't see how being 3 slots over the limit can really hurt the game. I reckon the whole "Rivens taking up lots of data" argument is kinda false since they basically went from a max capacity of 60 to 90 without really saying much; personally I think they could put as many slots in as they like, they just want to give you limited slots so that you only go for the Rivens you want most, which you would do via trading, which of course takes Plat. they've also made sure to make it so that console can't get market discounts for Riven Slots. make no mistake, DE are quite savvy when it comes to Riven Slots, because it's making them so much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toran Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 What a futile discussion... the rewards are at least 15 days away and you're moaning already. Here, have a hanky... Return when you actually got em and cry us another river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 38 minutes ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: I don't see how being 3 slots over the limit can really hurt the game. I reckon the whole "Rivens taking up lots of data" argument is kinda false since they basically went from a max capacity of 60 to 90 without really saying much; personally I think they could put as many slots in as they like, they just want to give you limited slots so that you only go for the Rivens you want most, which you would do via trading, which of course takes Plat. they've also made sure to make it so that console can't get market discounts for Riven Slots. make no mistake, DE are quite savvy when it comes to Riven Slots, because it's making them so much money. Same. Guess we'll find out once someone reaches 850 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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