Highest Level Youve Achieved In High Level Defense?

[Brutalbruno]

Last night me and some friends decided to test out my new Saryn warframe in some infested defense pluto missions. My saryn was only level 20 at the first attempt. Things started out super slow, mobs die so fast to my friends clan tech weapons. By wave 20 they cant really kill them fast anymore. Saryn kicks in and Venom runs rampid and just destroys everything in its path. We get to wave 45 and call it quits. We were 3 manning and we felt accomplished killing level 200+ mobs. 

 

Later on that night i do some more testing with saryn and i understand how to get around her "quirks" (bugs) and i become a serious damage dealer. My friends and i recruit a 4th just for the extra damage/reviver incase any ancients get through and smack us once (instant death at wave 20+). Everything is running smoothely (except for venom lagging everyones screen) and we are breezing through waves. After like an hour and a half its wave 60, It stands no chance against venom. After 2 hours we make it to about wave 76 and i did the usual; throw venom on everything and watch them die. GAME CRASHES. Log back in and get back to game. Go to wave 80 and stop for fear of crashing again. We were fighting level 400+ mobs. The reward was Heated Charge pistol mod. 2+ hours of work and we get an uncommon mod and i dont get any of the mat drops/mods from what we killed because of crash. I missed out on the morphics/plastids i needed and the experience i gained even tho it wasnt a lot of exp.

 

What ive learned is that saryn has a place in warframe. She is not underpowered in any way and excels in high sustained damage against any enemy despite level. Also high level defense doesnt reward you at all. The rewards pretty much get worse after wave 15/20 and the exp doesnt scale. Level 400+ mobs barely give experience and mod drops become so rare at that point. Some of the mods drop and disappear instantly.

 

TL;DR: Saryn offers exceptional damage for high level defense with venom at the expense of lag and possible crashes.

TL;DR2: Dont do high level defense.

[BoOz]

personally with random people. 40 waves. mobs were level 150.

[BigSchmexy]

yeah defense rewards still aren't great which is why if you see one you really want go for it the longer you play the more enemies the more abilities used the higher the chance for buggy laggy game play dc's and crashes my advice just run to wave 30 good xp lots of mods probably something good before or at 30 reward wise no reason to go higher

[Cat_Has_My_Pipe]

Like 20? I don't know, I detest the bore known as Defense mode and only do it to level up weapons. 

[Turtleshellon]

Far as defense goes, Pluto is pretty easy because you are dealing with corpus that like to sit in packs with their little shield buddies. They are not too aggressive in rushing and destroying the pod like the fast moving infested mobs at Xini. I'm not sure Saryn would hold up on Xini because infested are not just standing around looking cool. If anybody has gone to super high waves with Saryn on Xini please post the info on it. I have been saying all along that the risk does not match the reward in this game. I saw something about that in the patch notes but from what you are saying, it is still the same. No point in going really high other then the fun factor and challenge, but I want more. 

 

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Edited August 11, 2013 by Turtleshellon

[Brutalbruno]

@turtleshellon The defense mission on pluto was infested and saryn rips them to shreds. Also, corpus get railgun MOA after about wave 25 on any corpus defense. They pretty much 1 shot/snipe you from far away so i dont think i am ready to tackle high level corpus defense yet :P

[Turtleshellon]

@turtleshellon The defense mission on pluto was infested and saryn rips them to shreds. Also, corpus get railgun MOA after about wave 25 on any corpus defense. They pretty much 1 shot/snipe you from far away so i dont think i am ready to tackle high level corpus defense yet :P

Oh you went to Palus, that's interesting! I always thought Saryn would be too slow for that type. Far as corpus all you need is snow globe and those things are about as harmless as a butterfly. I will take fighting Corpus over infested any day long as frost is there. Too many factors to deal with when fighting infested. That OP poison, how fast they move, the amount etc. 

[Longhorns]

One shotted at level 20?  You need to rethink how you mod your Warframes, lol.

[Altale]

85 with a group of friends on Xini

[Brutalbruno]

@Turtle the infested can be slowed with a mod. Also nyx can slow them with her mind control thing. In my group we had both to slow them.

 

@Longhorns level 20 was an exageration. However 25+ on pluto the mobs are easily over level 100 and ancients will walk up and one shot you. Although the problem is generally someone in my group shoots themself with torid/ogris and kills themself.

 

@rCaiber 85 nice. xini starts lower level so im curious what level mobs you were fighting and what your group consisted of.

[AngelGuardcc]

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GIGGITY!

Edited August 11, 2013 by AngelGuardcc

[DetergentPod]

30 on Xini. Mobs were level 100+

[Gh0st_Slay3r]

wave 50 on xini is as far as I went. Gets too boring. Especially seems all my team DCed at wave 46 and left me alone.... Lucky I have vauban and ogris so solod it from 46-50 lol

[Turtleshellon]

@Turtle the infested can be slowed with a mod. Also nyx can slow them with her mind control thing. In my group we had both to slow them.

 

@Longhorns level 20 was an exageration. However 25+ on pluto the mobs are easily over level 100 and ancients will walk up and one shot you. Although the problem is generally someone in my group shoots themself with torid/ogris and kills themself.

 

@rCaiber 85 nice. xini starts lower level so im curious what level mobs you were fighting and what your group consisted of.

Yeah I know how to deal with them but I was speaking to Saryn specifically. Without Nyx there is no point in even trying to go up to 60 and beyond. I have never played Saryn but to my understanding see uses dots unless I'm incorrect, so I don't see how she would be viable vs infested at super high waves. Unless these dots don't work the slow way I'm thinking they do. 

[Killist]

60 on Xini pub game.

mobs reached lvl 200 around 45 ish

[mcryseria]

Yeah I know how to deal with them but I was speaking to Saryn specifically. Without Nyx there is no point in even trying to go up to 60 and beyond. I have never played Saryn but to my understanding see uses dots unless I'm incorrect, so I don't see how she would be viable vs infested at super high waves. Unless these dots don't work the slow way I'm thinking they do. 

Miasma is a DoT skill that also stuns enemies which are not killed by the initial damage. I main Saryn and I have no problems killing enemies past wave 30 on Xini, haven't tried it past wave 40 though, but I assume it's doable.

 

Edit: By the way I think Miasma is still one of the highest damaging skill in game, together with Rhino's stomp and Nova's Molecular prime.

Edited August 11, 2013 by mcryseria

[Turtleshellon]

Miasma is a DoT skill that also stuns enemies which are not killed by the initial damage. I main Saryn and I have no problems killing enemies past wave 30 on Xini, haven't tried it past wave 40 though, but I assume it's doable.

 

Edit: By the way I think Miasma is still one of the highest damaging skill in game, together with Rhino's stomp and Nova's Molecular prime.

Ok the stun would be the changing factor then, makes more sense to me now. 

[eruzet]

for high wave i recomended u to use this party :

vauban, rhino , banshee, nova

with 1-2 ogris equipment

we got on this wave so far ..

due of tired (approx 2h play) stoped and just got barrel diffusion..

 

wave 30 : thunderbolt

wave 90 : T3 capture

wave 95 : T3 mobile defense

wave 100 : barrel diffusion 

other than taht wave just hellfire or T2/T3 exter/raid key

Edited August 11, 2013 by eruzet