isolono Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 i look at the commets and saw some complainments of players having to deconstuct their dojo it would have taken so long to make it that big, that's why i made this topic, could this topic be approve to add a update which allows players to update their old things to new things without removing them or could it be decline vote to help this topic be accepted if it is accepted you help some other players as well and if it is decline player will continue to remove their things and rebuild them from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimis Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I dont think that is posible because they changed to a grid system and nothing of the old style matches up to that. meaning corridors might be a bit longer and so whould be clipping with other rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLVargas Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Won't just updating to the new room style (which is itself attached to the grid system) just keep the rooms connected on the ends? The dojo's data is saved, right? So won't the data for saying "this room is connected to this room" still exist as such? I think it would work better, honestly, if instead of going from room to room hitting an "update" button you just had an option to "refresh" the entire dojo at once, starting with the clan hall and spreading outward radially to the rooms. Does this make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KriLL3 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Somewhat but remember some rooms are a fair bit different in size now, you could get colliding rooms etc, and the new versions of the 2 larger halls have 6 doors instead of 2 now allowing for very different layouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cire Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Okay after reading a lot of comments on the forums referring to the new dojo grid system (I was out for a while) I came up an idea. What about the Dev putting inside the first dojo room an option that allows you to destroy every single room in the dojo saving up the materials used on them in the vault aaaand more important allowing your clan to build the exact same number of rooms that where destroyed but instantly. It'll make easier for all the clans, especially the small ones, to catch up with any new update related to rooms on the dojo and will let the Dev's be more creative about putting new rooms that may or may not do the same role as other rooms that already exist. Of course you may be able to change the rooms that where build but always to a x number of rooms and just if you have the materials needed for them other way you wouldn't be able to. And whenever you reach the number of rooms it'll reset the time of building. This option can cost materials meanwhile there aren't new updates and be free when there is a new update related to the dojo or maybe be only available when a new update like this one's show up. Don't know dudes comment please I think it's a good idea that can solve the problem of non matching rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KriLL3 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah that's already been suggested in other threads on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cire Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) Yeah that's already been suggested in other threads on here. ty didn't see can you redirect me to them so I can read them please? I'm pretty worried about that cause my vlan is pretty small xP. Edited August 13, 2013 by Cire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappatalist Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Okay after reading a lot of comments on the forums referring to the new dojo grid system (I was out for a while) I came up an idea. What about the Dev putting inside the first dojo room an option that allows you to destroy every single room in the dojo saving up the materials used on them in the vault aaaand more important allowing your clan to build the exact same number of rooms that where destroyed but instantly. It'll make easier for all the clans, especially the small ones, to catch up with any new update related to rooms on the dojo and will let the Dev's be more creative about putting new rooms that may or may not do the same role as other rooms that already exist. Of course you may be able to change the rooms that where build but always to a x number of rooms and just if you have the materials needed for them other way you wouldn't be able to. And whenever you reach the number of rooms it'll reset the time of building. This option can cost materials meanwhile there aren't new updates and be free when there is a new update related to the dojo or maybe be only available when a new update like this one's show up. Don't know dudes comment please I think it's a good idea that can solve the problem of non matching rooms. I like this. Be able to "store" rooms in an inventory system instead of having to destroy them. You don't get anything back from the construction costs, but you are able to instantly begin construction on that room type by building from the inventory, with an accelerated build time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VER1 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 DE is making this current generation of gamer learn something they did not have to get used to dealing with. Patience. I had a dojo with all facilities built with enough room and capacity for a shadow clan tier. None the less I bit the bullet and took it all down to rebuild whether or not it be at the inconvenience of the clan members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbniz Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 An instant dojo deconstruction option would be needed, I'd say. Lots of problems with deconstructing stuff, due to requirements, power and capacity costs that need to be upheld even after the deconstruction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cire Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) DE is making this current generation of gamer learn something they did not have to get used to dealing with. Patience. I had a dojo with all facilities built with enough room and capacity for a shadow clan tier. None the less I bit the bullet and took it all down to rebuild whether or not it be at the inconvenience of the clan members. More than a matter of patience is a need to make the game progress faster with that option the Dev's can be putting on even small changes and the players can be testing them without it costing too much for them. Do not forget that we have already waited what we had to, but is pretty pointless making all the people wait again for what they already waited and moreover farmed. Don't forget that the game is still on beta and it's pretty important to be testing things that is almost impossible( or will make a lot of people angry ) if you need to destroy everything you have made in a month or more. And moreover you are really the impatient one so it's obviously that things can't keep as that but you wasn't able to wait until the Dev's find out a better way to update the dojos instead of destroying them and as long as you need your clan update you had to deconstruct it. I just found it useless and figured out better solutions and wait for them to show up. Edited August 15, 2013 by Cire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VER1 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) More than a matter of patience is a need to make the game progress faster with that option the Dev's can be putting on even small changes and the players can be testing them without it costing too much for them. Do not forget that we have already waited what we had to, but is pretty pointless making all the people wait again for what they already waited and moreover farmed. Don't forget that the game is still on beta and it's pretty important to be testing things that is almost impossible( or will make a lot of people angry ) if you need to destroy everything you have made in a month or more. And moreover you are really the impatient one so it's obviously that things can't keep as that but you wasn't able to wait until the Dev's find out a better way to update the dojos instead of destroying them and as long as you need your clan update you had to deconstruct it. I just found it useless and figured out better solutions and wait for them to show up. A couple days left and my clans dojo will be fully rebuilt again. I'm not angry it took me a couple of days to dismantle, I am not angry I have to wait a few days to completely rebuild. It has also freed a lot of material and forma from rooms which were built prior to the clan sizing resource. 72 forma and a lot of material in the vault to build a dojo which will not be some biased towards budget and practicality. Sometimes as a beta tester we have to wait and be patient. Sometimes beta testing does take time. And lastly how can I be impatient if there is no mentioning of a 'reset' or 'instant upgrade' from DE which you are waiting for? I do not see any logic in waiting for something which is not even a concept. So may as well demolish, get it over and done with sooner than later. Better than wasting time complaining here then returning to your dojo with old sections which do not fit the grid. Edited August 16, 2013 by VER1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxheadroom101 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) A couple days left and my clans dojo will be fully rebuilt again. I'm not angry it took me a couple of days to dismantle, I am not angry I have to wait a few days to completely rebuild. You know they've not finished redesigning the new tiles yet dont you? ie the obstacle course and dueling arena (and the labs?) havnt been converted to the new tilesets yet. So you may end up rebuilding those for a 3rd time. I'm holding off till they've updated everything. Also hoping that at that point they'll implement one of the quick-rebuild ideas that have been suggested here. Edited August 16, 2013 by Maxheadroom101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingreay Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 i just wish that you could save the layout (e.g the rooms next to each over) and it would remember and rebuild its self as now my clan looks horrible because my friend and I don't have enough forma and resources to rebuild evrything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albhe Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I have no problem with taking a little time to rebuild, My clan's only problem is that most of our dojo is a loop with the clan hall in the middle. Because everything is connected, I can't deconstruct rooms. The only dead-end rooms are the ones I don't plan on deconstructing or the generator rooms that can't be deconstructed because we are using all the energy from them. Poor planning on our parts, yes, but I do like the sound of the "deconstruct all rooms" function from the original clan hall. Even if you have to wait a while, it would be a nice function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VER1 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) You know they've not finished redesigning the new tiles yet dont you? ie the obstacle course and dueling arena (and the labs?) havnt been converted to the new tilesets yet. So you may end up rebuilding those for a 3rd time. I'm holding off till they've updated everything. Also hoping that at that point they'll implement one of the quick-rebuild ideas that have been suggested here. Yes the elevators, as well are not updated either. No big deal for me since I have claimed back a substantial amount of forma (50 left) after completion and materials due to the 100% refund and building before dojos became cheap to build. If I have to demolish parts of the dojo again it's fine since I will not have to demolish everything next time round. Edited August 16, 2013 by VER1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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