Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) I'm really tired of Steam Wallet and really unsatisfied with your agreement with Valve (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44474-new-payment-system/#entry441982). I wasn't informed of it at the time I should be, so I didn't even had a choice. I won't create new account because I've already bought platinum on this one and I don't want to loose it (I've also made a lot of progress on it). The only solution I see for now, is not paying you more money, until you resolve that issue.Options from your end I can think of are:1. Unlink Steam2. New payment options through SteamI prefer the first one, because I've already payed for platinum on my friends account and I was very satisfied with payment options I was given. I want that payment options on my account too. I feel cheated because of this agreement.To any who this issue may concern: Please keep this topic alive and without any offensive statements. I'm sure this problem may be resolved, but we need to show we really want to find a solution.I'm aware there are topics like this one, but I've created my own because of title. If you know any other similar topic than please link it here, to show DE that it is an important issue.Other topics like this one:https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/94212-steam-issues/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/75106-where-is-webmoney/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/72677-unable-to-use-other-payment-methods-for-cashing/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/83553-warframe-platinum-payment-using-other-payment-options-for-steam-made-accounts/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/70524-how-do-i-not-pay-founder-package-with-steam-wallet/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/64142-account-payment-options/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44097-platinum-purchase/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/45567-wew-why-when-i-press-buy-platinumits-redirect-to-steam/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/34179-change-account-type/https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/32655-accounts/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/25353-get-rid-of-forced-steam-payment-redirect/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/23554-can-only-buy-platinum-through-steam/ Edited August 14, 2013 by temhun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It's probably hard to do due to all "legal contracts and stuff" with Valve and Steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhoyzu Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 LOL you use steam. uninstall warframe go to warframe.com click download game uninstall steam live a happier life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 LOL you use steam. uninstall warframe go to warframe.com click download game uninstall steam live a happier life but account made under Steam is still tied to a Steam and requires Steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 @Strac_CRO I suppose it's exactly as you say, but I'm sure there can be a solution, if only there would be desire to solve this. @Zhoyzu I've already done it and it's exactly as Strac_CRO said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure_Kytia Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 People have asked for this in the past. It is something DE doesn't do, unfortunately. If you want to play Warframe, and you set it up through Steam, you can't use the Website with your account to process Transactions with all their variety. Gotta use Steam. Yes, it is silly, no, I do not agree with it, and yes, I would very much like DE to sort it out. But they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) @Strac_CRO I suppose it's exactly as you say, but I'm sure there can be a solution, if only there would be desire to solve this..... With Steam (and Valve) DE and Warframe got more players/users. However they are not doing it for free and they probably take some percantage of money involved (it's just business) If I understood you correctly, you don't have problem with prices but only with payment options? I use simple paysafe code for my non-Steam Warframe account. No need for credit cards, online banking, emails or whatever. I don't know why Steam doesn't make business contract with those companies (DE can't do anything about it, they can only suggest it). Edited August 14, 2013 by Strac_CRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 @Strac_CRO The problem is I need to pay for currency conversion. If I'm paying through non-Steam account, I can buy platinum with my own currency and even via direct bank transfer. I thought about buying platinum today, but I've noticed that I have money to buy the amount I want, but I don't have enough money to pay for currency conversion. ;] I've already bought some platinum through Steam Wallet, but I decided to not doing it anymore. I'm loosing too much money for currency conversion. I have a choice to pay for it, or to keep my money for other games, I chose the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyaldyn Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Make the prices for platinum purchases through Steam match the amount of funds you can add at once to Steam wallet. Problem solved. There are more than enough payment options to use in Steam wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 @3ventic That wouldn't solve the problem of paying too much for currency conversion. Also some time ago Steam let you choose the amount you want to buy, but Valve decided to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 but how much money do you "loose" or "pay extra" in currency conversion? 5%, 10% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 Does it even matter? If I answer your question, some may say its not much and others may not like it. Its totally subjective and that is not the purpose of this topic. I'm not looking for a way around this, I want this problem to be on the desk, because many players before already said, they are not happy about it and I'm one of them. It should be clear from official statement if this will always be so, or it will change in the future (and if so, when?). This topic is for people who don't like to be forced to pay through Steam Wallet, if you're not one of them, then this discussion should not concern you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Sith Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 LOL you use steam. uninstall warframe go to warframe.com click download game uninstall steam live a happier life LOL...beat it Steam/Valve hater >:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 ... This topic is for people who don't like to be forced to pay through Steam Wallet, if you're not one of them, then this discussion should not concern you. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhoyzu Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 but account made under Steam is still tied to a Steam and requires Steam odd. ive used both and found neither of them tied down. I DL'd WF when steam was having those75% off sales and bought some plat then activated it and uninstalled the steam vsn of warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 But they won't. They won't if we don't show them we really want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure_Kytia Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 They ignore many things that are extremely desired by the community. They won't even if we show them we really want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 They will concern themselves when their income will get lesser. We aren't slaves that can do nothing about their ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure_Kytia Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I think by that stage, the damage would be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epk_KekAzz_Spaz_Hog Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 It's 5 months after release on Steam so you think wrong. This isn't enough time for this to work and it isn't about doing damage to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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