Rifles Require Attention(And Huge Buff)

[Davoodoo]

lets compare ranged weapons

pistols: 120+60% multishot 220% dmg 90% ap 90% elec 90% fire 60+40% ice

shotguns: 120% multishot 90+60% damage 90+60% ap 90% elec 90+60% fire 90% ice

rifles: 90% multishot 165% dmg 60% ap 90% elec 90+60% fire 90% ice

 

Lets see worst ap mods, worst multishot, worst elemental mods, 2nd dmg mod. Only thing that rifles have is better crit than anything else.

 

Suggestions: buff split chamber to 120%, buff EVERY elemental mods to 90% and add more dual mods, that would be nice beginning

Edited August 14, 2013 by Davoodoo

[LazyKnight]

They are redoing the damage and armor system in update 10 or whenever. Not that I would complain if split chamber and piercing hit were buffed.

[Davoodoo]

They are redoing the damage and armor system in update 10 or whenever. Not that I would complain if split chamber and piercing hit were buffed.

Even if they redo elemental dmg rifles still have worst elemental mods out of all.

[LazyKnight]

Even if they redo elemental dmg rifles still have worst elemental mods out of all.

Just AP right or are you talking about elemental interaction with multi shot? They said they were redoing elemental as well I wouldn't be surprised if despair and other weapons stopped being #1 after they change stuff.

[Endrance]

Go to sleep, you are drunk. If rifles need a buff, then Melee need what? God-like?

[Davoodoo]

Just AP right or are you talking about elemental interaction with multi shot? They said they were redoing elemental as well I wouldn't be surprised if despair and other weapons stopped being #1 after they change stuff.

Rifles and shotguns have top fire dmg, pistols have top ice, shotguns have top ap. Unless they make everything weak to fire which i doubt thatll happen rifles gonna lose against other guns in every aspect.

[LazyKnight]

 

Did you watch the live stream? They are going to make AP far less useful and for all I know electric and fire might be the most useful damage types.

[Mikki79]

Did you watch the live stream? They are going to make AP far less useful and for all I know electric and fire might be the most useful damage types.

 

How exactly? What happens to weapons that do pure AP damage like Snipetron Vandal? Worthless?

[LazyKnight]

How exactly? What happens to weapons that do pure AP damage like Snipetron Vandal? Worthless?

No, likely AP weapon will be anti-Grineer as opposed to anti-everything. They talked a lot about this in the live stream near the start it is worth watching on YouTube later if you want to hear it for yourself. Edited August 14, 2013 by LazyKnight

[Davoodoo]

How exactly? What happens to weapons that do pure AP damage like Snipetron Vandal? Worthless?

Nah despairs will still be top in dps, cause of how elemental mods work, you just gonna slap all 4 elemental mods, lethal torrent, dmg, multishot and rof and still own everything. Combined elemental bonuses of each weapon, pistols 370%, shotgun 480, rifles 390.

Edited August 14, 2013 by Davoodoo

[cloud_leonhart]

Go to sleep, you are drunk. If rifles need a buff, then Melee need what? God-like?

so drunk u are, the melee should be the third weapon, and cant be the first weapon , the primary need serious buff seriously the rifle, even im using supra, cant get close the shotgun and the secondary

[Davoodoo]

so drunk u are, the melee should be the third weapon, and cant be the first weapon , the primary need serious buff seriously the rifle, even im using supra, cant get close the shotgun and the secondary

Cant agree with that each weapon should be balanced even if theyre melee(melee should be a bit more effective than ranged cause of risk using it produces but that can be ofset by cc and multitarget), though i given up on asking for buffs for melee for simple reason that any buff for it will affect only charge dmg.

[DCypherThis13]

I like the idea. Multi-shot should be 100%, damage at least 200%, and AP should be (going for broke here) at least 100%. It sounds pretty fair to me and it would give every rifle a chance to be end game quality.

 

Go to sleep, you are drunk. If rifles need a buff, then Melee need what? God-like?

 

Melee is on life support, waiting for an organ transplant. Everybody know this. It seems that DE doesn't like doing huge buffs or revamps.

Edited August 14, 2013 by DCypherThis13

[CloudPies]

O.o wait, people actually use melee for something other than breaking boxes?

[Verazix]

It seems that DE doesn't like doing huge buffs or revamps.

Unless we put the name Rhino in it anyway.

[PaperAlien]

Screw that! You're obviously just supposed to use pistols in this game!