IfritKajiTora Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) I don't like the changes of Saryn, while she is my second favourite Warframe.1.SPORES: OverPowered itself, boosting damage automatically by just casting it and spreading.2.MOLT: Just for dodge, no more boosting spore damage.3.TOXIC LASH: Just for adding more damage to weapons, no more boosting spores.4.MIASMA: Viral is fine (you can say that it's doubling the damage to health), But now Toxin or Viral doesn't boost the damage which was cool. So it's just like Saryn need to cast Spores, hit once and Spores will spread to enemies boosting them self. Saryn now can sit and wait for spores to build the damage.CHANGES IT SHOULD GET:1.SPORES: are too overpowered on itself. 50% corrosive status on 100% power strength, any enemy can get 3 spores so 50% corrosive status per second is insane. It should be changed to 25-30%. And not boost damage itself. Spores can be buffed by adding Gas and Toxin damage as it was before (but with reduced %. My Ogris deals around 15k gas damage so adding it to spores not to mention AoE hitting even 8 targets by one shot would be insanely OverPowered) I think that infinitely boosting spores will be OverPowered too it need damage limit. 5K damage per spore on 100% power strength. At damage limit changing the ICON to flashy toxical effect with your energy color choice on Saryn (just like NIDUS have), making it a signal that you can make full potential damage by casting Miasma if you applied Toxin and Gas to spores. This is the most important ability in Saryn KIT at the moment and get's really powerful with overextended builds going to 37.6 meters range spread. This should be changed to 25meters range not affected by power range, making overextended builds not mandatory. 2.MOLT: Deals Gas damage and 100% status on explosion, this damage apply to spores. Explosion range affected by range mods.3.TOXIC LASH: Deals toxin damage and 100% status, this add to spores damage.4.MIASMA: it should be boosted by all toxin damage type (Toxin, Gas, Viral, Corrosive). Casting spores add Corrosive, Using Molt add Gas, Using Toxic Lash add toxins. So you need to use all her abilities to make full potential MIASMA DAMAGE. Probably it should detonate all spores with burst damage. Why make range in spores not changeable by mods? Already Miasma and Molt will benefit from range mods to quickly spread gas in large area and Miasma will be able to damage a lot of enemies. Spores with 25 meters range spread is enough to be able to spread them in large area, not blindly shot one target and making them spread to all enemies even behind the walls. Overextended is bringing too much benefits (spores,molt,miasma), now it will not be needed, 145% range should be enough for Molt and Miasma, while overextended is a nice option for Miasma and Molt range.TL:DR: Saryn still should spread GAS and TOXIN damage with spores, so 2 and 3 should be more usable, because they help boosting spore damage, you need to build up that damage to make it final NUKE with Miasma, not just cast spores, wait and sit for them to build damage by them self. SARYN - The master of toxins. Edited May 11, 2018 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synpai Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Your post on the actual dev workshop was enough, this is just clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Synpai said: Your post on the actual dev workshop was enough, this is just clutter. This is not clutter. It just have many stuff to change. To make player build her damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdframe_Prime Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, IfritKajiTora said: This is not clutter. It just have many stuff to change. To make player build her damage. You posted in the actual Workshop Feedback thread, creating an entire additional thread to say the same thing is the definition of clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Thaylien said: You posted in the actual Workshop Feedback thread, creating an entire additional thread to say the same thing is the definition of clutter. posted it but made an official thread to make more sure they read it. And added more stuff. Came back and edit copy paste also there. Edited May 11, 2018 by IfritKajiTora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdframe_Prime Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, IfritKajiTora said: posted it but made an official thread to make more sure they read it. And added more stuff. Came back and edit copy paste also there. They read the Feedback Thread in the Workshop, that's literally why they post it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Thaylien said: They read the Feedback Thread in the Workshop, that's literally why they post it there. I don't think they read it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synpai Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, IfritKajiTora said: I don't think they read it all. It's easier to continue reading through a post dedicated for feedback than it is to find the hundreds or so posts of people who have "bigger ideas than others and need to be seen." They're less likely to see this post than the one on the dev workshop. I do think DE could go a long way with a "post read" sorta thing. A pat on the back to put everyone at ease, because I know how it feels to "be unheard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 This post could trigger someone’s epilepsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Onyx Schnee Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Dear lord that formatting. I'm not reading a darned thing until you fix that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goga_gola Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 did you write this post with crayons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vafthrudnir Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Please delete this thread, it's a mess. All these colors and the white highlight are painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NezuHimeSama Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'd say the post is like staring at a rainbow, but there's no violet, neutral or warm green, or yellows, and the selection of hues is generally poor. !Please fix quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa97 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, giovanniluca said: Please delete this thread, it's a mess. All these colors and the white highlight are painful. Yeah, really pops out when using the dark theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayArchon Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 2018-05-11 at 6:52 AM, IfritKajiTora said: I don't think they read it all. It's literally the reason they make those threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicNuclearZarkiel Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Molt should have synergy with spores, like keep at least one spore on itself while it is active, for preservation sake. Recasting spores should not detonate them (maybe Miasma should), OR detonating the spores should propagate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidan890 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Hey all! Please continue this conversation over here: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/957215-update-2220-saryn-revisted-20-feedback-megathread/ @IfritKajiTora feel free to post your OP in the feedback megathread as well! Edited May 17, 2018 by NovusNova Fixed broken link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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