Quitting because of other player being AFK... And why that's Rage Quitting

[tprx]

I was on a Teralyst bounty with a PUG, and 2 players went straight for the Sentient while 2 of us went to get the lures. By the time we got to the fight, one of the player (I won't name him because it's against forum rules, but that's the only reason I won't shame him publicly) decided we were AFK and left. So we had to do the Teralyst with only 3 players, none of us being specialist. So after 20 minutes (and cutting it so close we got the "Bounty failed" message!), we did it.

And so to THAT player who left, and to all those Rage Quitters who won't even take the time to ask what's going on, just go and play alone. Please.

[SastusBulbas]

Shame so many WF players have such an attitude. Its a wonder new players stay with the amount of elitist self gratifification mememe l33t players spitting dummies out when the public player base isnt good enough.

 

Thing is, most of you quitting because a team mate has a poor selection of frames, weapons, mods, were just as bad at one point in game. 

Most newer players look at the better players, get insight into their own direction by playing with better players as a community.

 

By quitting a pub your worse than a new badly equiped player, afk or leecher. 

 

Because you have skill, know better, and can support and set an example.

[tprx]

On 2018-05-26 at 4:41 PM, Starcanum said:

... Play pubs in any way you want, but respect the fact that others might want something different.

How leaving a pub without leaving a reason or a warning (which takes 10 sec: type "t", type "sry, gotta go", type enter) is respectful for those players left behind? When I go in a pug, I expect players who enter to be willing to play in a pug, I mean, that's why they queued up. If they want (or need) to leave, I can respect that IF they at least warn up. If not, not only don't I respect them, I think they should go play solo or with friends and not bother other players who queue for pugs. That's my opinion.

[-Temp0-]

В 26.05.2018 в 21:46, krc473 сказал:

In all honesty, I would quit too if my squad was taking 20 minutes to kill the Teralyst. 

I mean to be fair capable people don't pug such things so yeah.

Цитата

How leaving a pub without leaving a reason or a warning (which takes 10 sec: type "t", type "sry, gotta go", type enter) is respectful for those players left behind? 

I will spoil it to you but no one gives a flying ..... It's only even so slightly disrespectful if it was a recruited group.

Publics come and go whenever the .... they want. It's the definition of pugs. You're no one to them and they're no one to you. The only reason they hit public is to get more players because they don't want to recruit or do something alone. They don't even bother looking up you nicknmae or notice the frame you play. Grow up.

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Because you have skill, know better, and can support and set an example.

No one has to.

Your friends will do that. Don't expect anything from random people on the internet, this is dumb af. Also youtubers and streamers spent hours upon hours creating guides and builds, you have a wiki, a codex, guides of the lotus, recruiting chat and region chat, relays, discord servers, clanmates, and YET you expect to get hardcore carried and being spoon-fed in real time in a mission by some random "veterans". Again, grow up. Learn to tie your own shoes.

Цитата

If you can solo it in 10 minutes I don't understand how other people can make you take more time when you can do it on your own?

Because dumb people make dumb things and hinder the whole process. 

Idk what part of it someone can not get to begin with.
 

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(and you are MR18 ... really hard to believe that you dont have any usefull frame for some of the task)

Man.

This is probably the saddest thing I've seen in a long time.

Edited May 28, 2018 by -Temp0-

[-CdG-Zilchy]

I joined a Teralyst group the other day and all 3 were under MR 15. 2 were using Rhino and the other was using a Nyx. I ended up not only fetching the lures but also doing about 75% of the overall damage including dropping the shields (and I'm levelling my amp, which is why I went public and not solo) And then blowing off the limbs for them as well. In hindsight, I wish I'd left that group instead of carrying them. It's the same as when you do a Sortie and see low level MRs with crap gear bumbling along in the way.

As a long time player it annoys me, warframe is about using your time efficiently as there is sooo much to do each day that you play, so yeh, call me an A**hole but it gets tiresome carrying players who have no business being in those missions, same goes for Elite Sanctuary with MR 5s etc, stay out unless you can contribute usefully, do not leech because you can't be bothered putting in the hours to improve your gear like I and many other veterans have.

New players should do what responsible new players do, join a clan and join a teaching session, for example I help newbies in my clan all the time andwe run weekly tutorials for new players wanting to try Eidelon hunts, Focus gains, Sanctuary, Relics, Corrupt mods etc. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by Zilchy

[Starcanum]

Sure, everyone should play the game the way you want them to. Maybe they want you to play the game the way they want you to, as in carrying them in everything. Who's to say which opinion matters more?

If you don't like it, feel free to leave, but don't act like you're doing the "right thing" by doing so. The game does a poor job of specifying which missions you "have no business being in", if it lets you do ESO from MR5 no wonder there are those players. If you don't want to face them, there's always recruitment chat or the clans dedicating squads to these missions. Don't expect people in pubs to somehow meet your personal requirements though.

If they added public squad instances to some MMORPG, it's only logical that the undergeared / inexperienced people would likely try out a lot of stuff since they're not meeting the DPS requirement to get in a dedicated farm squad. What would be illogical is to have someone who's already high enough on DPS go pub and then get salty about all those low unworthy people around.

[Sabreracer]

If I'm playing in Public then I have no expectations of the other players.  Otherwise I would be in a Clan or recruited game.

In a Terralyst hunt especially I will try to educate if I can but not everyone reads the chat or may not speak English.

This game can be complex and doesn't explain everything (or anything) well, however to play and have fun you shouldn't have to spend lots of time with your nose in the wiki (but you will be a much better contributor if you do)

Baseline is this is a co-op game and part of my enjoyment is helping newer players.  I will drag them to success if need be.  Then explain what they're doing wrong and how to improve it, if they want to learn.  If they don't I just move on, it's just a game at the end of the day.

I'm not a fan of afk'ers but neither will it make me quit and penalise the other two.

Edited May 30, 2018 by Sabreracer

[Oreades]

If they honestly felt that anyone in the Bounty was AFK it is well within their rights to leave. 

On the other hand if they left because they felt a PUG Eidolon fight was just taking "too long" then they are pretty petty. Cause a PUG is a PUG is a PUG and everyone going into a PUG should know that when they hit the bounty button and walk into the hallway of loading random. Tho at the same time, the PUG doors swings both ways it doesn't guarantee you will be grouped with people who are patient with PUGs. 

At least that's my 2c

 

[SaidTheRogue]

I'm only mr8 but my gear is decent. Is the wiki the best place to learn the eidolon thing? 

One more dumb question.. Sometimes people say eidolon and sometimes teralyst. Aren't those the same thing? 

[Zaniix]

There are also Eidolon Vomvalysts  , but when someone says Eidolon I assume they mean the Teralyst

 

 

[DissentWomble]

1 hour ago, SaidTheRogue said:

I'm only mr8 but my gear is decent. Is the wiki the best place to learn the eidolon thing? 

One more dumb question.. Sometimes people say eidolon and sometimes teralyst. Aren't those the same thing? 

Join a pub party if you can. If you're in a decent guild ask to join atleast for a teralyst hunt. Some people solo it and you can see how it works and ask questions. Theres also youtube which imo where you should atleast spend a few minutes watching videos on to get a general idea.

Eidolon usually means the teralyst but there are also hydrolyst and gantulyst variants which are somewhat harder. Usually people will either be in the learning phase hunting the teralyst only or be in the advanced stages doing tridolons which means they're capturing all 3 versions of the eidolons. People usually will specify specifically that they're doing a tridolon.

[rune_me]

Relax. People are allowed to quit a game. Maybe some of his friends came online and he would rather play with them. Maybe the game crashed or he lost his connection. Maybe his wife or child called. Maybe he remembered he had an appointment. Maybe the doorbell rang and he had to go. Quitting is better than hanging around and risk being flagged/reported for AFK'ing. And all of those are perfectly valid reasons for quitting a game. Or maybe he just decided he didn't want to play. Which is also a perfectly valid reason to quit. It was a public game. He didn't owe you anything. He is free to quit the game if he wants to. And no, that has nothing to do with rage quitting.

Edited May 30, 2018 by rune_me