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[DE]Megan

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30 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

Spores

  • Drain occurs once per half second instead of continuous.
  • Targets you cast Spores on directly will always spread on death.
  • Targets affected by Miasma will always spread on death.
  • Spores won't be removed by enemies going temporarily invulnerable because of void tears corrupting them.
  • Tone down Spore decaying blinking warning
  • Fixed Saryn’s Spore damage being removed when casting Spores on a target that is being simultaneously killed by a teammate. 
  • Fixed Saryn’s Spore damage decay drain discrepancies when entering a Nullifier bubble. Damage was decaying slower the second time entering a Nullifier bubble.
  • Fixed Saryn's Spores and Contagion cloud not using custom Energy colors on cast/burst.

Let us mod for lower/slower decay rate.    Or give us mechanics to increase the damage rate/spread range beyond just modding for range+damage and trying our best to keep things up. These changes are minor QoL while spores are too much work to keep up compared to their damage output.

Maybe let spore spread molt (can't be cast on it) so we can keep it up instead of frantically having to chase down an enemy?  Have kills with toxic lash increased spread range? Maybe add some kind of mechanic/augment with Miasma to help spread spores?

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26 minutes ago, Schrenk212 said:

we going to have to wait for Saryn's 5th before you move on to another frame in need of help?

Zephyr is crying in a corner atm after her rework tweaks got overshadowed by Atlas rework tweaks

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oh right lets not forget

* Increased by 1 second

I like a lot of these changes but this is "yea we know you wanted this but we had to have like 1 change to let you know we're still out of touch and stuck in 2013, we dont ever really change and you should lower your expectations"

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22 minutes ago, -PepperMint- said:

Stop changing this for gods sake ;-; and give something new

One of the main problems with Warframe's prioritizing new content over old content.

You should be grateful you aren't being given more MR fodder with stupidly high resource costs.

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30 minutes ago, --Q--Voltage said:

Will Zenistar get fixed? It currently is very inconsistent due to recent melee changes.

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Uhhh, why though? This is a pretty hefty nerf to Miasma....

Maybe because it has a 100% chance to spread spores on target death now and a 1s longer duration?

This is actually a major improvement and not a nerf...

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Thanks for the update!

1 hour ago, [DE]Megan said:
  • Fixed Saryn's Spores and Contagion cloud not using custom Energy colors on cast/burst.

I'm happy to see this addressed! If you guys ever get the chance, could you take a look at the Mutalist Cernos' (and possibly the Pox's) toxic clouds they produce as the Energy colours you choose do not affect said clouds.

Anyway, thanks again guys!~

edit: I just went to check and it seems it was fixed by proxy, which is great news! Thanks!~

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4 minutes ago, TerrorLTZ said:

Zephyr is crying in a corner atm after her rework tweaks got overshadowed by Atlas rework tweaks

Zephyr has always needs more work than DE is generally able to put into a rework just to not make her a nuisance, let alone actually make her really good 😐

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28 minutes ago, Kedrigern7 said:

Can Saryn get her "spread spores on death" back please, otherwise ok changes.

We essentially have this back with the change to miasma.

Actually what we have with this miasma change is better spread than before, as it spreads max range instead of half. 

Saryn is just required to control the spread of spores now by juicing them up with miasma (which, when coupled with spore is pretty effective at laying waste to everything in the universe).

 

Yeah I'm talking it up a bit....  Really like the changes. My current build has a hefty 50M range on miasma which translates to incredible spore coverage on affected targets. Especially when you consider the 100% viral proc (cuts health by 50% before miasma deals tick damage. Extending the duration by 1s is awesome and should allow for constant coverage with miasma now that it costs 25% less).

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4 minutes ago, Leqesai said:

Maybe because it has a 100% chance to spread spores on target death now and a 1s longer duration?

This is actually a major improvement and not a nerf...

Outside of really high levels/and/or onslaught this is mostly meaningless since most stuff will die to miasma if they have spores ticking away and you're still stuck frantically  looking for a mob to keep decay from starting.

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Эм сложный про сарину что либо сказать. В. Комбо 1 и 3 мода я смог убить 125 левела. Но чувствется что от миазм меньше урона. А так нормально.

 

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This is all very nice about saryn and her changes. But the most annoying part about her kit is losing spore dps, you can sustain that pretty easily in elite onslaught, but outside of it, it's pretty much impossible, no matter how you build the base decay rate is huge, 10% is a lot, basically if you find yourself without a single mob around for 5 second, all your dps is gone, and it's quite hard to get it back, since you can only get small increase per second even with high strength since the dps growth for spores is capped.

Which is why I have to propose 2 things: 

1. Remove reset decay. Reduce base spore decay to 5%, or add a timer for about 5 seconds which allows you to find next target before your dps is gone completely 

2. Rework spores into spore stacks - Remove spore energy cost. Each enemy killed by spore or with an active spore on it, grants saryn a stack of her spores - which increases the dps of each spore. Each time you recast your spores it takes away some % stacks and reduces it's damage. So basically that way you can always preserve your dps, but you can't just spread spores everywhere without dps loss and you have to manage stacks. This change would make her a lot more viable outside of ESO 

3. just remove all decay and make spore recast remove like 20% of current dps, like you have 1000 spore dps, you lost all spores, you wanna start it again, cast 1 spore on a target and it will be at 800

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44 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

Fixed Saryn's Spores and Contagion cloud not using custom Energy colors on cast/burst.

All is right in the world.

45 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said:

Miasma

  • Increased sickness Duration by 1 second. 
  • Lowered Energy cost to 75. 
  • Decreased damage tick to 300.

Well, something needed a monkey paw balance, but guess it was justified.

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43 minutes ago, Schrenk212 said:

Saryn Saryn Saryn Saryn, how about frames that have been bad for 5 years now like Nyx? Will Nyx get a rework or are we going to have to wait for Saryn's 5th before you move on to another frame in need of help?

Geez dude, at least be grateful that they're trying to improve *something*.

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