ProfessorLitmus Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, AzureTerra said: Because while you were under your rock the change happened and people made noise about it then but by now have managed to adapt to it or stopped playing Her ah yes DE's patented " I'll just ignore it until it goes away" tactic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JustJoshinEnt Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Why do people get so hung up on meta opinions? I still use Ember from time to time in high level content, including Sorties. She's fine. DIFFERENT, yes, but fine. Her Firequake is still fun CC, which gives me all the openings I need to melee and maim the crap outta enemies. Are there more ideal options? Sure, probably. Is she still a viable frame, though? Absolutely. So I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JustJoshinEnt Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, ProfessorLitmus said: ah yes DE's patented " I'll just ignore it until it goes away" tactic The hell is that supposed to mean?? DE has been working their butts off week after week trying to rebalance, fix, and create...and y'all think it's cute to just kick 'em while theyre down? Friggin' bullies, man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, ProfessorLitmus said: ah yes DE's patented " I'll just ignore it until it goes away" tactic More like "I'm hearing what you are saying, but I stand by my decision in the end" tatic AKA "I'm the one who makes the final decision". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)mickeyjuiceman Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 hours ago, SoulEaterReaper said: has people just not noticed how their range is like 70% or half after several weeks? Winner of the "really dumb troll of the week" award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEaterReaper Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, (XB1)mickeyjuiceman said: Winner of the "really dumb troll of the week" award. If you didn't know about the patch notes you would probably say the range is lower meanwhile i was right on it being half. tells you im smarter than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame_Werewolf Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 17 hours ago, Oreades said: Nah I'll keep focusing on WoF tho not for it's original intended purpose which for me was Firequake stunning mid to high level things .... because I literally can't fit firequake in my build anymore..... I'll focus it on clearing low level content when I'm feeling lazy. Which she does oh so well~ The only WoF build I feel comfortable with requires Energy Conversion, so I can keep duration and efficiency very high without the malus from Blind Rage. I cast Accelerant so I deal more damage and my cast speed increase, then I keep casting WoF without let it go over 50%. The range is still decent, this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, wolfsongcry said: The only WoF build I feel comfortable with requires Energy Conversion, so I can keep duration and efficiency very high without the malus from Blind Rage. I cast Accelerant so I deal more damage and my cast speed increase, then I keep casting WoF without let it go over 50%. The range is still decent, this way. I never really cared about power strength, I mostly used it for filling a room with Firequake. Tho I do think my old build did have Energy Conversion in it as well, which kinda makes me sad because I went from really trying to work Energy Conversion into my builds because it had what I felt was a fun/interesting mechanic to removing it from them. Either because something was changed and my new build just doesn't have the room for it (Ember) or because it is super inconvenient (Titania). Now because I don't want to be forced to sit there and babysit WoF I had to add, it was either three more range mods or two range mods and more efficiency which ate her survivability, maybe her energy conversion(?) and any room for an Augment. I might have ended up switching out my Exilus for range as well, I don't remember but it might have been from Power so that's more of a horizontal shift. Tho that would have hurt all of her other skills but hey WoF needs all the range it can get now, Woooooo~ Yeah in theory I could have just done what they "intended" and pressed 4 a bajillion times but I don't feel that it adds anything meaningful to her game play outside of pressing 4 to press 4. All because they essentially wanted to cut the range of WoF in half and wanted to do it in a way that everyone wouldn't shriek "NERF" in unison. Tho either way Firequake was essentially dead because it either becomes super inconvenient/inconsistent CC because of the constantly shrinking range to the point that it is only effecting enemies within Melee range (sure most of them use ranged weapons but who cares about that ryt?) or there is literally no room for it. It's kind of ironic in a way because I essentially went from using an Ember build that was more varied and interesting to effectively being shoehorned into the Ember build that from all outward appearances they where trying to get rid of. I apologize if I missed the point or got a bit rambly (ramblie? whatever it's a word now) but I just woke up and have yet to partake in either breakfast or coffee 😛 Edited June 8, 2018 by Oreades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheAlphaHydra Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Changed her powers, if you activate the ability then turn it off the range gets huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfdoggie Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 The 5 stages of grief have long passed on these forums. Everyone just accepts that she's dead now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 WoF is a melee buff for all intents and purposes. If you're not getting in close, you're not using it right. Fireblast is now a projectile buff with area denial with augment. Fireball is DoT with a chance for fire proc cc, and Accelerant buffs all her damage with a short stun. She's all around a very flexible powerset now. All she needs is a damage resistance mechanic (which fire procs are I'm guessing on paper are supposedly able to route enemy attacks but don't) and a better passive and she'll be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanille Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, Wolfdoggie said: The 5 stages of grief have long passed on these forums. Everyone just accepts that she's dead now, Meanwhile some of us tweaked her builds to be somewhat close to what it used to be seeing nearly no change and continue to use her fast mission farming everyday, but she's indeed dead :^)))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tactless_Ninja Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kiwinille said: Meanwhile some of us tweaked her builds to be somewhat close to what it used to be seeing nearly no change and continue to use her fast mission farming everyday, but she's indeed dead :^)))) Like Valkyr lel. Or Banshee who is still a top-tier dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atekron Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm really enjoy running low level maps with Nezha negative duration + range build, very effective way to clear good chunk of the map, and he so fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slykidd Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 2018-06-07 at 4:08 PM, Prof.549 said: Your face when you cleaning all the startchart with Ember(and sometimes even Sortie1) while reading such comments nobody is talking about the trash starchart where everything can clear it like what.... im talking about end game MOT, sanctuary onslaught ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof.549 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, slykidd said: nobody is talking about the trash starchart where everything can clear it like what.... im talking about end game MOT, sanctuary onslaught ect Not every frame is DPS. Not every frame can do ESO or Mot. Ember can't. Old or new version. It was never a "high-lvl-killer". New version can do better tho. But still not enough for 50+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDxBarracka Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 2018-06-07 at 11:18 PM, AzureTerra said: Because while you were under your rock the change happened and people made noise about it then but by now have managed to adapt to it or stopped playing Her All i did was remove a power mod and added a range mode. No big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 2018-06-08 at 12:09 AM, SoulEaterReaper said: If you didn't know about the patch notes you would probably say the range is lower meanwhile i was right on it being half. tells you im smarter than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)mickeyjuiceman Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Yup 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysenbeary Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Its strange The nerf made it so you had to build for range, at the cost of strenght usually for WoF But this means, you still nuke low level content, but your 4 is even more useless than it already was at higher levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof.549 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, boysenbeary said: ...but your 4 is even more useless than it already was at higher levels How so? That you have to get closer to enemies? You can do it, without being killed. If you know how. Plus, you dealing more dmg now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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