Overall exalted weapons troubles

[-AoN-CanoLathra-]

46 minutes ago, Memesuprememe said:

Yea I was tryna get a blood rush on to my valk talons to make a nasty crit build out of that 50% crit chance but it didn't even show up as a mod I owned

Use the Gladiator mod set. It's effect can be used on Exalted weapons.

[Madway7]

On 2018-06-15 at 9:39 AM, DarkOvion said:

Presented: Item:
Stat Window
Ability
Wiki (pre-update stats)
All frames are without mods to compare base stats.

Excalibur, Exalted Blade:
https://i.imgur.com/fTdkSsn.png
https://i.imgur.com/PGyMxic.png
https://i.imgur.com/w1fDiCs.png
+90% buff to base strike damage, otherwise no change

Valkyr, Hysteria (Talons):
https://i.imgur.com/40EH3oG.png
https://i.imgur.com/WZc6hOO.png
https://i.imgur.com/iqcNYpu.png
No Change
 - Valkyr Prime, Hysteria (Prime Talons):
https://i.imgur.com/H0VIIJ5.png
No Change

Ivaria, Artemis Bow:
https://i.imgur.com/LFAe0Fa.png
https://i.imgur.com/00cSc6G.png
https://i.imgur.com/iFskdzF.png
+50% base damage, otherwise no change

Mesa, Peacemaker (Regulators):
https://i.imgur.com/8vrPGGs.png
https://i.imgur.com/5mwYDCm.png
https://i.imgur.com/Etz1oVI.png
+115% buff to base damage, no other changes

Wukong, Primal Fury (Iron Staff):
https://i.imgur.com/PBEmTbi.png
https://i.imgur.com/iXNcCTd.png
https://i.imgur.com/day1i7e.png
No Change

Titania, Razorwing (Dex Pixia, Diwata):
https://i.imgur.com/ZVupEdD.png
https://i.imgur.com/vAUlN4f.png
https://i.imgur.com/nyxAaYE.png
https://i.imgur.com/kOCH2Ud.png
https://i.imgur.com/KzgfxXe.png
+25% base damage to Diwata (Melee), no other changes

It tells me access denied when I try to go to a link.

[(PSN)kingbrown2012]

Chromatic blade was nerfed in a way tho 

[DarkOvion]

7 minutes ago, (PS4)kingbrown2012 said:

Chromatic blade was nerfed in a way tho 

howso?

26 minutes ago, Madway7 said:

It tells me access denied when I try to go to a link.

Dammit, I'll try and fix it.

[(XBOX)GearsMatrix301]

On 2018-06-15 at 8:39 AM, DarkOvion said:

Presented: Item:
Stat Window
Ability
Wiki (pre-update stats)
All frames are without mods to compare base stats.

That’s genuinely some pretty good changes 

[DarkOvion]

Fixed my post with embedded images now.

But yeah, overall everything is either no change at all, or buffed.

It's minorly annoying we only get 60 drain, but then you couldn't always use all mods anyway (or the base melee was 'sacrificial' and just there to carry mods and half useless alone)

[(PSN)kingbrown2012]

4 hours ago, DarkOvion said:

howso?

Caustacyst has innate corrosive 

with that I can mod for radiation and viral

all 3 statuses transferred to exalted blade 

With chromatic blade I had 100% status with condition overload 

so the damage capabilities of chromatic blade and exalted blade in general has been nerfed with the update 

[DarkOvion]

3 hours ago, (PS4)kingbrown2012 said:

Caustacyst has innate corrosive 

with that I can mod for radiation and viral

all 3 statuses transferred to exalted blade 

With chromatic blade I had 100% status with condition overload 

so the damage capabilities of chromatic blade and exalted blade in general has been nerfed with the update 

Ethereal Weapons only took the applicable mods not the inherent abilities or stats of the base weapon...

... that's not how that works at all.

So.... no it didn't take the '3 statuses' whatsoever...

You can still put 4 elemental status mods on the exalted weapon too to give 2 combined elements and boosted status chance, plus the single element and status chance from chromatic...

So instead of the 'damage capabilities of chromatic blade and exalted blade in general has been nerfed'... you can do exactly the same, with +90% base damage than before.

Edited June 16, 2018 by DarkOvion

[(PSN)kingbrown2012]

3 hours ago, DarkOvion said:

Ethereal Weapons only took the applicable mods not the inherent abilities or stats of the base weapon...

... that's not how that works at all.

So.... no it didn't take the '3 statuses' whatsoever...

You can still put 4 elemental status mods on the exalted weapon too to give 2 combined elements and boosted status chance, plus the single element and status chance from chromatic...

So instead of the 'damage capabilities of chromatic blade and exalted blade in general has been nerfed'... you can do exactly the same, with +90% base damage than before.

Actually the corrosive did transfer over to exalted blade when using caustacyst I know this cause I seen it happen on the regular when using excal and caustacyst 

[Madway7]

1 minute ago, (PS4)kingbrown2012 said:

Actually the corrosive did transfer over to exalted blade when using caustacyst I know this cause I seen it happen on the regular when using excal and caustacyst 

Problem now is that we can't verify this unless you or someone else recorded it.

[(PSN)kingbrown2012]

Luckily I’m on PS4 so I can try to screenshot it tomorrow 

[DarkOvion]

10 hours ago, (PS4)kingbrown2012 said:

Actually the corrosive did transfer over to exalted blade when using caustacyst I know this cause I seen it happen on the regular when using excal and caustacyst 

If it did, and wasn't from another source (such as your sentinel weapon, another team member, etc) then that would be a bug. It was not meant to, and didn't for anything else.

And even if it did all that would do is add 0 damage corrosive to the weapon... I think this is imagined / coincidence at best.

[(PSN)kingbrown2012]

7 hours ago, DarkOvion said:

If it did, and wasn't from another source (such as your sentinel weapon, another team member, etc) then that would be a bug. It was not meant to, and didn't for anything else.

And even if it did all that would do is add 0 damage corrosive to the weapon... I think this is imagined / coincidence at best.

Probably a bug but a welcomed bug non to less 

[xenondestroyer]

uh. Dex Pixia nerfed crit chance by 5% actually. Lel.

[Lawmonark]

Lets hope they sort out the polarity of the stances. It is very limiting

 

[Yuilogy]

On 2018-06-15 at 3:15 AM, Rogelio_Gaona said:

There are some trobles with this update that (in my opinon) cause some inconsistencies in the exalted weapons (mostly make these too weak compared to before)


Stats:

• Excalibur exalted blade: at least 20%status and %15 crit,
  (Now 10% an 10% really? the stats you put on his blade are too low compared with almost every decent melee in the game.)
   
• Ivara’s Artemis bow: must have 50% not 25% crit chance, and at least 2.0 punch trough not 1.0 
  (Dread and lens has 50% crit and usually was the best weapon for she because of that and even the normal paris has 2.0 punch trough.)
   
• Mesa’s regulators: 10% status is too low at least give her 20%.
   
• Titania’s dex pixie: first you make to use pistol mods an then put only 10% crit chance, must be at least 20% damn.
   
• Valkyr’s talons: have too low status chance (only 10%), please at least give her 15%.

 

Polarites:

• Realy guys, you said that you will care with that to be consistent but mesas regulators only have 1 madurai and 2 naramon, realy? In fact in almost every weapon they should only be madurai polarites
•  The melee weapons used to be benefited from the capacity of the stance mods, but now only have 60.

The adventure was awesome, the new UI is great, the controls now work better, almost close to be as good as before, and really really love the eidolon fixes, but this changes in the exalted weapons are a serious step back.

Realy DE i love you guys but sometimes it looks like you guys don’t play your own game.

I decided to work on these frames after the addition of the exalted weapons and i got my Excalibur to shred level 155 corrupted bombards easily, valkyr too, titania was always more of a heavy status on her pixias. I think you should take some time to try out new builds on these frames and their weapons before asking for a buff. I havent got around to ivara and mesa but i will make a guess that mesa's insane attack speed will allow her to proc status quite often especially with the massive amounts of multishot that pistol mods provide. My only complaint is the melee weapons exalted blade, talons etc need to get at least the regular 10 capacity from their stance that they currently dont get.

[Amideus]

On 2018-06-15 at 5:16 AM, breakingthrough said:

Exalted melee stances not giving extra capacity and using forma to fill in the mods still sucks, I agree.

Worse than sucks, a 4 forma Exalted Umbra Blade is inferior to a 2 forma Nikana, and the Umbra Blade comes with TWO polarities built into it for the mods... like, what kind of massive stealth nerf is this???

[Madway7]

3 hours ago, xenondestroyer said:

uh. Dex Pixia nerfed crit chance by 5% actually. Lel.

I checked the wiki when I got Titania. It was 10% then.

[(PSN)ForNoPurpose]

NO LOVE FOR PRIMAL FURY.

 

seriously Wukongs Iron staff is decent on paper in terms of stats, BUT HOLY CRAP IT IS GARBAGE.

 

loook att  thiiiis

watch how BADLY the pause combo buggs out when you preform it while moving...

i think the only reason this still has not gotten fixed is because the Pause combo is very hard to pull off, and like all the combos but the block combo, give no benefit to using.. the hold combo similarity bugs out.

 

[qhobbit]

On ‎2018‎-‎06‎-‎15 at 4:06 PM, Nictophoby said:

Are we ever going to be able to get the old appearance of the Exalted Blade for Excalibur?
I loved the pure energy sword *_*

Yes this please as an alternate skin or something

[cursedmoon13]

Didn't read all comments, but i agree with the many people who have stated that the actual weapon stats have not changed, (or, from @DarkOvion's data, may have even gotten some buffs?), but the real issue is that the stance mods on Exalted melees give no capacity. Acolyte mods don't apply, and never did, you just have proof now, since they can't even be slotted in.

I feel it's worth noting, though, that they made Diwata a crit melee, while melee crit is pretty meh without Acolyte mods, so it doesn't seem like they buffed it to the point of it being worth using in lieu of Dex Pixia.

[cursedmoon13]

7 hours ago, Amideus said:

Worse than sucks, a 4 forma Exalted Umbra Blade is inferior to a 2 forma Nikana, and the Umbra Blade comes with TWO polarities built into it for the mods... like, what kind of massive stealth nerf is this???

I choose to believe hope that it's an oversight that will be corrected, rather than an intended nerf.

[Madway7]

11 hours ago, Amideus said:

Worse than sucks, a 4 forma Exalted Umbra Blade is inferior to a 2 forma Nikana, and the Umbra Blade comes with TWO polarities built into it for the mods... like, what kind of massive stealth nerf is this???

How is it worse? The major difference between Exalted Blade and a Nikana is that it has aoe vs the Nikana having very low range.

[DjKaplis]

16 hours ago, xenondestroyer said:

uh. Dex Pixia nerfed crit chance by 5% actually. Lel.

Hmm yea I somehow also remember it being 15% before...so was looking at that 10% like "wtf, they nerfed it or is my memory that bad"

 

Edit: ffs they indeed nerfed it. It WAS 15% before.

 Here is a review video after release, stats are mentioned at around 2min mark - 15% crit, 2.0 mult, 25% status. I was also using status crit hybrid build on her weapon this whole time, it for sure wasn't only 10% base crit. :@

 

Edit nr2: Are you sure it is 10% crit now? As wiki still has listed it to be 15%. I'm not at PC right now.

Edited June 18, 2018 by DjKaplis

[Amideus]

9 hours ago, Madway7 said:

How is it worse? The major difference between Exalted Blade and a Nikana is that it has aoe vs the Nikana having very low range.

  10 less mod capacity = 1 less mod I can slot.  That's how it is worse.  Pre-update with my Nikana I had 70 capacity for my exalted blade, post update exalted blade has its own weapon with 10 less capacity.  I can no longer run my standard chromatic blade build.  I am currently looking at 3 available capacity on my exalted umbra blade with everything maxed, meaning even with my fourth forma I still can't add my organ shatter mod.  It's a 100% nerf to every exalted weapon to take away 10 capacity.  How would you feel losing 10 capacity on any of your weapons?

 

To expand on this further, the most a forma slot can give in capacity benefit is 7 on a primed mod, since umbral specific mods don't count since you can't forma for them.  This means that you have to use 2 forma to recover that loss.  So my 2 forma nikana is now the equivalent of a 4 forma exalted blade on my standard excalibur, and umbra is completely borked as you can't possibly run any actual builds on him without removing his umbra specific mods and polarities, which at that point why bother with umbra at all?  This is a significant issue. 

Edit to include screenshots.

Edited June 18, 2018 by Amideus
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