rhoenix Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 He howls, and he's still obviously intelligent. Having him be able to speak might introduce some very interesting conversations between him and the Operator. This might require a quest to give him a voice box or something, but I'd be okay with that. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky_Haddock Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Nah. He doesn't need to speak. He's the meat to the Operator's mind. If he communicates anything, it's through movement and action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mover-NeRo Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 If you played the quest you would know that Balas removed his ability to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoenix Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, Mover-NeRo said: If you played the quest you would know that Balas removed his ability to speak. Yes, hence this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 None of the frames can speak. He may be special, but is still roughly the same as every other frame. Hard pass on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--F--NerevarCM Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 No. Warframes don't talk. Including Umbra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, -SDM-NerevarCM said: No. Warframes don't talk. Including Umbra Partially excluding Valkyr. She doesn't TALK but she does have a voice. If she ever gets an Umbra I'd like to hear her talk, even (or especially) if it's not coherent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Im hoping that umbra can talk like stalker or his acolytes. A whisper/hiss or something that only operator can understand, much like rocket racoon understands groot, even though groot only says "i am groot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obviousclone Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Loza03 said: Partially excluding Valkyr. She doesn't TALK but she does have a voice. If she ever gets an Umbra I'd like to hear her talk, even (or especially) if it's not coherent. Does this mean I can change radial howl to this though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Loza03 said: Partially excluding Valkyr. She doesn't TALK but she does have a voice. If she ever gets an Umbra I'd like to hear her talk, even (or especially) if it's not coherent. What part of her screams/yells are even vaguely voice-like? Still a frame, still no talking. There is nothing in the frames that would result in anything coherent or understandable. The only communication the frame has with the Operator are images/memories. This is solidly against the existing lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhoenix Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 It's against common experiences, but not necessarily against lore. Several of the warframes vocalize in different ways, even if none of them have vocal chords anymore. After all, in an Orokin's mind, why would a soldier need to talk? The Helminth strain was likely modified to include removing vocal chords as a "feature" - but, we are not Orokin, and we can still command Helminth. None of the others show the same sapience Umbra does, and his sapience didn't go away after operator and he linked through Transference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The Technocyte virus took away his ability to speak, Ballas more or less says as much during the quest. Perhaps a future Umbra will be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchangelusAlpharius Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) I imagine valkyr would sound like a mix of incoherrent reeeeeeeeeeing and telling salad all the ways he should fornicate with very sharp objects Edited June 17, 2018 by ArchangelusAlpharius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 12 hours ago, peterc3 said: What part of her screams/yells are even vaguely voice-like? Still a frame, still no talking. There is nothing in the frames that would result in anything coherent or understandable. The only communication the frame has with the Operator are images/memories. This is solidly against the existing lore. A voice does not necessarily mean speech, and you seem to be conflating the two. She distinctly has a human voice in her screams (as opposed to Nidus or Umbra, who have animalistic and almost mechanical sounding vocalisations respectively), since she is, in fact, voiced by Megan, a human. Sure there are effects added to it, but Valkyr has a voice. She just doesn't, and almost certainly can't, talk. For the theoretical Umbra Valkyr, I specifically say "Even (or especially) if it's not coherent." Speech and communication should not be conflated either. I know that frames can't communicate outside of images, but that doesn't mean they can't talk. Just because Valkyr Umbra might talk, doesn't mean she'd be saying anything. I could see her yelling random, aggressive-sounding, words, possibly in a dead language like old Norse, or in a made-up language that has 'words' that don't mean anything. She'd be talking, sure but she sure as hell wouldn't be communicating anything with those words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just seems unnecessary to me, would take away from his allure rather then add to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartPurity Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 "aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlada91 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 18 hours ago, Mover-NeRo said: If you played the quest you would know that Balas removed his ability to speak. But stalker is like umbra and he can speak.... 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mover-NeRo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Vlada91 said: But stalker is like umbra and he can speak.... 🤔 Ye..i wonder how or who made Stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazdingoo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Having just the operator be able to talk to the Umbra through the mind would be pretty cool I guess. Seeing as how the man in the wall can do something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16Bitman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Vlada91 said: But stalker is like umbra and he can speak.... 🤔 Stalker could also be like Rell/Harrow and be unable to leave their frame again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shaun-T-Wilson Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 A howl isnt a sign of higher intelligence, Umbra seems feral driven mad by the single memory ballas gave him as punishment. The tenno operator calmed umbra down and gave it perspective and direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Apexsea2004 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 i think it would be pretty cool if Umbra could talk, like the more you use him, the more of a bond you get. like at the beginning, he says nothing, then through time he starts talking more and more, and every now and then, you could give him a little fist bump, or a high five! ... also, wouldn't it make sense for Umbra to copy your play style? like, Warframe could record how you play, such as if your an exalted blade spammer, he will pop exalted blade whenever he can. if you run around like crazy, he would go around the map jumping and sliding while attacking. if you main as a melee he will go melee. i mean, he is sentient, and your both linked. so your actions are his, as his are yours. oh, also i feel like the operator should be mod-able. and i think he should get melee weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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