LongDraw Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) So currently the Hind will fire a series of bullets and if you continue holding your primary fire button down, it does not continue firing. I fully realize there are macros to auto-reclick the fire button, but I find DE to allow use of macros to be not only highly unprofessional, but also highly risky since it invites abuse of game mechanics. I'd be fine with the Hind firing like it normally does, then say 1 second later, fire another burst, rinse and repeat through clip. Thoughts? Edited August 19, 2013 by LongDraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 so basically you are asking for fullauto fire mode for Hind with lower firerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hixlysss Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think the reason they don't do this is primarily because of the fire rate mods, it would just make the hind way OP in my opinion. It is a neat idea to have a built in function to allow this for all weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The Hind is a burst fire. I don't know where you get the Semi-auto part from also we have too many auto rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scherhardt Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 so basically you are asking for fullauto fire mode for Hind with lower firerate. You misunderstood him man. Right now even if you hold click, burst weapons will only fire once and will not continue like auto weapons. He's asking if they can make Hind keep on firing burst shots while holding click like auto weapons can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althix Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 omg Scherhardt.... and will you get in the end? you will get a fullauto Hind with little recoil and lower rate of fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 this weapon can never be op as it has no armor ignore so it would hardly matter if it fired like that, just saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 You misunderstood him man. Right now even if you hold click, burst weapons will only fire once and will not continue like auto weapons. He's asking if they can make Hind keep on firing burst shots while holding click like auto weapons can. Scherhardt is correct. I'm only asking that the burst mode repeat with the same timing requirements, just without having to reclick the primary fire button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 this weapon can never be op as it has no armor ignore so it would hardly matter if it fired like that, just saying.. Actually, you are false. Each bullet doing 30 damage with bursts of five add up to 150 damage. With a 60% AP damage modifier scaling from the base damage of the five bursts you get 18 AP damage per shot, x 5 for 90 AP damage per burst. That seems to outclass some lower level bolt weapons right there. When properly modded, it could be a nightmare. Just like how AP and Damage stacking on Shotguns can make then useful anywhere with that 150% AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Actually, you are false. Each bullet doing 30 damage with bursts of five add up to 150 damage. With a 60% AP damage modifier scaling from the base damage of the five bursts you get 18 AP damage per shot, x 5 for 90 AP damage per burst. That seems to outclass some lower level bolt weapons right there. When properly modded, it could be a nightmare. Just like how AP and Damage stacking on Shotguns can make then useful anywhere with that 150% AP So what are your thoughts on it having a burst series...1 second cool down... burst series *repeat this* on the Hind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) I think the reason they don't do this is primarily because of the fire rate mods, it would just make the hind way OP in my opinion. It is a neat idea to have a built in function to allow this for all weapons. That is not how fire rate works, It doesn't matter if a weapon if it is full auto or semi the fire rate of the gun is how fast the game engine will shot it, unless the timer for the shots is attached to frame rate. Armored cord 4, if anyone has played it, ALL weapon had this function including burst weapons and there was and interval between burst that couldn't be altered. In Warframe the fire rate mods would ONLY be able to alter rate of bullets in burst but wouldn't be able to change the interval between firing, unless DE was extremely bad at coding. Edited August 19, 2013 by LazyKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Sounds like there isn't any complaints for changing the Hind in the way suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 So am I correct in thinking that the general community consensus is that this is the right way to go about fixing the Hind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 So am I correct in thinking that the general community consensus is that this is the right way to go about fixing the Hind? Probably not. Reason why no one has been responding is because they forgot the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Well, I'd like to hear some more feedback to refine the idea if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flackenstien Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) I'm only asking that the burst mode repeat with the same timing requirements, just without having to reclick the primary fire button. Why would you even want this? It makes no sense, just click to shoot again.. Edited August 21, 2013 by Flackenstien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Why would you even want this? It makes no sense, just click to shoot again.. Some people have problems with their fingers repeatedly clicking. To OP, Macros are allowed, I'd PM Rebecca to double check though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Some people have problems with their fingers repeatedly clicking. To OP, Macros are allowed, I'd PM Rebecca to double check though. Yes, I realize that macros are allowed. But it is quite ridiculous to expect any player to use a macro to automate any task as it modifies the intended game mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 So currently the Hind will fire a series of bullets and if you continue holding your primary fire button down, it does not continue firing. I fully realize there are macros to auto-reclick the fire button, but I find DE to allow use of macros to be not only highly unprofessional, but also highly risky since it invites abuse of game mechanics. I'd be fine with the Hind firing like it normally does, then say 1 second later, fire another burst, rinse and repeat through clip. Thoughts? I don't think that macros are allowed - they just can't control them too well. Burst is burst and should stay like so. They should just fix the framerate affecting the firespeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord.Finster Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The less I have to click the better. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDraw Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Sorry it took me so long to respond here. I don't think that macros are allowed - they just can't control them too well. Burst is burst and should stay like so. They should just fix the framerate affecting the firespeed. Actually, if you refer to DE staff comments on the matter, they do say that it is allowed for specific purposes/reasons. Also, I'm not saying it should be a full-auto rifle. What I am saying is that I think it would be improved if the weapon did burst fire, then paused, then burst fired again. Repeating this sequence, but instead of how it currently works where you have to keep re-clicking, I'm suggesting letting us keep holding down the fire button. The less I have to click the better. +1 Thank you. This is exactly the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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