(XBOX)Xephos Liponias Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 All Warframes are just humans infected by Helminth! The clones we build from genetic blueprints and infect with transference are all living sentient beings! Stop the madness!!! Make it illegal to sell Warframes on the black Tenno market! 25k credits is not what a human life is worth! Discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koldraxon-732 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) Allow me to explain. In short, only Warframes reconstructed from scavenged, physical remains of Warframes, may have memories. Warframe creation timeline to me is as thus: Spoiler Infested golems > Transference Surrogates (powerless frames used by Tenno to interact, pre-Warframe Project) > Umbras and Primes > Low-cost variants > The mindless combat shells we throw at our enemies on a daily basis. Golems: Mindless monsters molded in crude humanoid shapes forged from living beast-flesh thrown at Sentients as combat forms. Failed, went mad some more. Surrogation: Golems, but driven by Tenno minds. Ballas described them in a similar manner. They would possibly be able to adapt their shape to mimic the one controlling them to a degree. Umbras: Sacrifice Spoilers within. Do not open unless you've played it. Spoiler Dax who either signed up or were punished by Ballas, transformed into sapient Warframes with memories preserved, with one given excess weight; a burning memory of a tragic or maybe glorious moment. This description has me thinking Stalker could've been one of the willing ones who underwent this procedure. Building one requires it's original components and detailed scans and analysis by Cephalon, as the blueprints essentially do not exist anywhere besides Ballas' Vitruvian 'diary'. [Unspecified types]: Pre-release versions of Warframes that failed to meet specifications and thus were refactored into a new Warframe, recycled -partly or entirely-, preserved due to potential which would be unlocked later, or destroyed due to absolute failure to meet requirements. Whichever Warframes don't get a Prime are ones that meet this 'failed' criteria. Primes: Release versions of Warframes during the Orokin Era which are simply perfect. They remember nothing. Low-cost: Cheap versions of Primes that function rather effectively, in spite of the low-quality materials used. The original versions of them likely had imperfect Transference restraints, allowing them to gain sapience and remain active without their Operators. Unfortunately all cases of these 'imperfect restraints' we know of thus far have been destroyed. Current: Low-cost and Prime versions, without any sign of sapience except crude instincts and vague echoes that somehow linger deep in the blueprints. Umbra specifics: Spoiler -Umbra was resurrected by reclaiming his parts from the location of his demise after scanning them. This is why his parts aren't there after you revisit the location in-Quest and in Captura. -Umbra's fast craft time and requiring no other parts is because we took what was left of him and literally glued him back together. It would be like taking Vor, scanning him, and putting his remains through the Foundry to resurrect him; the process is no different either way in either of these two cases. -Copies made 100% from blueprints will retain no such thing as 'memories'. Edited June 24, 2018 by Koldraxon-732 Added missing elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Xephos Liponias Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 Still people though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)watt4hem Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I remembered seing this exact thread. With the same closing statement too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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