Why Do You Want Stretch On Frost's Snowglobe?

[Hayden11121]

You want the area bullet proof, the pod at least. However, increasing range of snowglobe only lessens the distance needed for someone to walk in and start slowly shooting at the pod.

 

I cannot for the life of me find a reason to logically use Stretch for Snowglobe...

[Toddwjp]

the slow effect stops melee enmys getting to the pod faster as shooty enimies usaually wont get closer anyway.

[Utarious]

You want the area bullet proof, the pod at least. However, increasing range of snowglobe only lessens the distance needed for someone to walk in and start slowly shooting at the pod.

 

I cannot for the life of me find a reason to logically use Stretch for Snowglobe...

Because, so more teammates can shoot safely from the inside, I guess...

[SkacikPLz]

Try that on T3 Def.

while the pod will survive, you will be shredded in matter of seconds.

 

Generally you want to have as big snowglobe as you can so you can hide and move freely within it.

 

Unless you're fighting infested it's the best thing to do.

[Utarious]

the slow effect stops melee enmys getting to the pod faster as shooty enimies usaually wont get closer anyway.

But melee enemies are fragile and I have yet to see a melee enemy hit a pod/terminal. :/

[Khaos_Zand3r]

However , Stretch on Ice Wave is amazing because it increases it's AoE in both length and width.

[Hayden11121]

Try that on T3 Def.

while the pod will survive, you will be shredded in matter of seconds.

 

Generally you want to have as big snowglobe as you can so you can hide and move freely within it.

 

Unless you're fighting infested it's the best thing to do.

LOL. You act like I never played T3 defense.

 

There is enough room to move, and Fusion MOAs actually don't rush in and start shooting at the pod because they stop just outside the Frost's Snowglobe unmodded. It was 10000x easier then it should have been.

 

If you fight infested and use snowglobe you're not helping. Sorry.

[RoboDoge]

Bigger bubble=more room for people inside.

 

 

It is easier for people to stay alive in bigger bubble, you dont need to worry if you gonna step out and get oneshotted by enemies.

[Hayden11121]

Bigger bubble=more room for people inside.

 

 

It is easier for people to stay alive in bigger bubble, you dont need to worry if you gonna step out and get oneshotted by enemies.

Again, the room is adequate for what it is...

 

So I really don't see the need..

[SkacikPLz]

Again, the room is adequate for what it is...

 

So I really don't see the need..

Then don't.

Nobody forces you to put stretch on it.

Some people prefer big globes, some people like their tiny globes.

[Asbyn]

I use Stretch for Ice Wave and Avalanche, not Snow Globe.

[Overlord_Hades]

You want the globe with stretch to slow the enemies that get to close while allowing yourself room to move around so you can kill everything, when i use globe on defense the pod never gets hit and i can easily kill everything thats it it, its basically a win win. Anything outside the globe cant shoot in and anything that gets in the globe dies before it can hurt you, your teammates or the pod. its as simple as that. As a frost main i don't think smow globe is as effective without stretch as bizarre as that sounds xD

EDIT: Also you want stretch for avalanche so you can stun lock enemies or just to clear large groups of mobs

Edited August 19, 2013 by Overlord_Hades

[basilioss]

If you have Stretch on T3 Void Defense, it will cover the entire oval area to go right past the lasers you can activate. 

[Hayden11121]

If you have Stretch on T3 Void Defense, it will cover the entire oval area to go right past the lasers you can activate. 

Thanks, we all know this.

 

But now those Fusion MOAs can run right in...

[Cpl_Facehugger]

You want the area bullet proof, the pod at least. However, increasing range of snowglobe only lessens the distance needed for someone to walk in and start slowly shooting at the pod.

 

I cannot for the life of me find a reason to logically use Stretch for Snowglobe...

If you get it big enough you can cover the whole reactor on grineer asteroid defense.

[Overlord_Hades]

Thanks, we all know this.

 

But now those Fusion MOAs can run right in...

Yes and you instantly kill them because they are fragile little things and they are too slow to get close enough to fire. Unless your using a pea shooter, then that's your fault for not being well equipped, but im pretty sure you have good equipment.

[DiBBz]

the bigger the snow globe , the enemy's will slow down at a further range taking time to get to the objective , also giving you time to switch targets

 

default maxed SG w/o stretch , its protective enough however if for T3 defense where enemy's come from all directions 1 side will be a bit shorter than the other meaning enemy's can get in faster than the other side , there is also the problem where it will be more cramped inside the globe

 

having a bigger globe means you can stand center , while (melee) enemy's will take a longer time getting to you so they can start attacking

 

stretched is needed for Frost if your going a pure defensive build that is

Edited August 19, 2013 by DiBBz

[KvotheTheArcane1]

the slow effect stops melee enmys getting to the pod faster as shooty enimies usaually wont get closer anyway.

But it also stops allies from shooting those same enemies.

[Namacyst]

I don't.

 

Globe is only meant to protect you and the pod from getting shot..and since you are shooting everything that moves nothing will reach the pod anyways so no reason to use stretch.

[Lord.Finster]

A fully stretched Snowglobe can completely envelop a reactor in Grineer asteroid base defense.

 

Stretch works on all other skills of Frost, as well. Sth. to consider. Ice wave works very well on Xini, when you are at the bridge.

[_Rue_]

Why even ask for opinions if you are just going to shoot em down? I wonder why you even made this thread.

 

The only reason to use stretch on snowglobe is to increase the area that snow globe covers.

 

Why increase the area? Well, there are many reasons that are based on playstyle and team dynamics and the mission. Most of these have already been given.

 

If you get it big enough you can cover the whole reactor on grineer asteroid defense.

^This is a very good reason for it.

 

FYI:

 

Not all things inside the globe is slowed. The globe effect only applies to animation sequences STARTED in the globe. Any animation sequences that have been started outside the globe and happen push into the limits of the globe will not be affected. Animation sequences started INSIDE the globe are affected by the slow down.

 

Snow globe increses the time it takes animation sequences to complete. This includes some invulnerability sequences like Vor's shield phase or Krill's frozen state.

[CubedOobleck]

the slow effect stops melee enmys getting to the pod faster as shooty enimies usaually wont get closer anyway.

This is true.

 

You also give your teammates more space to maneuver which could be invaluable and in at least one grineer map you need to defend a huge pillar and it's toast if your snowglobe isn't big enough.

[Slurmageddon]

LOL. You act like I never played T3 defense.

 

There is enough room to move, and Fusion MOAs actually don't rush in and start shooting at the pod because they stop just outside the Frost's Snowglobe unmodded. It was 10000x easier then it should have been.

 

If you fight infested and use snowglobe you're not helping. Sorry.

 

Speaking as NOT the caster of snowglobe I've always seen it as both allowing more movement in the globe aswell as protecting a larger area (that grineer defense map we all LOVE)

But both of these are dependent on the map we're going to be. Most of the time it'd be safer to leave stretch off 

[Stormandreas]

You want the area bullet proof, the pod at least. However, increasing range of snowglobe only lessens the distance needed for someone to walk in and start slowly shooting at the pod.

 

I cannot for the life of me find a reason to logically use Stretch for Snowglobe...

Sorry, but this is the stupidest question I've heard.

Putting Stretch on Snowglobe means that against melee enemies, they have more distance to go while slowed to get to you or the pod. It also allows you and your allies more room to re-position to shoot enemies in certain areas, or dodge attacks that make it through (say a Railgun MOA's shots or a melee unit)

I saw a post about T3 defences earlier. If you are allowing Fusion MOA's to get to the pod and seriously damage it, you arn't playing defence properly. I got through a T3 defence with the pod never reaching lower than 98%, and that was all thanks to a fully stretched Snowglobe.

Edited August 19, 2013 by Stormandreas

[Hayden11121]

Sorry, but this is the stupidest question I've heard.

Putting Stretch on Snowglobe means that against melee enemies, they have more distance to go while slowed to get to you or the pod. It also allows you and your allies more room to re-position to shoot enemies in certain areas, or dodge attacks that make it through (say a Railgun MOA's shots or a melee unit)

Melee enemies are not the problem here.

 

The ones with the guns are the problem, and when they get into the pod it's a straight away shot.

 

However, decreasing the movement amount needed to get into said "Firing Zone" seems more efficient.