Guest Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, NinjaZeku said: Skiajati is required for the final part of The Sacrifice, I'd say that's a solid enough reason to not be allowed to sell it, or Umbralibur, for that matter. Is it? I really don't know, because I didn't consider changing weapon for that part. 5 minutes ago, NinjaZeku said: (And as for afterwards, I guess there'd be a problem if you wanted to replay the Quest, so ... there ya go.) My question still remains, but if it did, then making Skiajati available somewhere else would solve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivaAurelius Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 58 minutes ago, (PS4)iQuedas said: I don't collect weapons. It's just taking up space, I have no intention to use the weapon, and I keep only the weapons I actually use. There isn't any content in the game that requires a Nikana, and even if there was, there are other Nikanas in the game as well. I've sold other one-time only weapons (Azima, Zenistar, Broken Scepter), knowing full well I can't get them back, and I don't regret a single bit. Not everyone likes saving "just in case" items. You have no intention to use the weapon... YET! Just you damn well wait until you are being overrun be legions of Sentients in the new war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)LubzinNJ said: They're not just faction damage mods, they're also umbra mods...better than their base versions. That's debatable. If we're talking Umbra warframe mods, they are great and can compare to prime versions (if vitality, intensify, and steel fiber had one anyway), but the Umbra weapon mods are pretty lesser. Sacrificial Pressure is weaker than the prime version even after the set bonus is counted, and I don't think the 33% anti-Sentient damage justifies that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leqesai Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)iQuedas said: I don't collect weapons. It's just taking up space, I have no intention to use the weapon, and I keep only the weapons I actually use. There isn't any content in the game that requires a Nikana, and even if there was, there are other Nikanas in the game as well. I've sold other one-time only weapons (Azima, Zenistar, Broken Scepter), knowing full well I can't get them back, and I don't regret a single bit. Not everyone likes saving "just in case" items. This boggles my mind. You and I have completely opposite ideas about weapon storage/management. I've got every available weapon in the game and frequently swap between them just for the heck of it. I couldn't imagine wanting to get rid of things just to free up space (especially since most weapons require 1-3 forma to be semi-decent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koldraxon-732 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 You can't sell this weapon or Excalibur Umbra. My bets are two-fold: 1: They're needed for future cinematics. 2: People would regret selling them in the future. As for your dislike of Nikanas, I would suggest trying Blind Justice with it and focusing on using the block or charged attack movesets. Sure, it's not as fast as the spin2win meta which is the bane of many fingers and hands, but it's there. Not to mention it will turn you invisible on successful finisher kills, regardless of what Warframe's using it (meaning Inaros, Fatal-Teleport Ash, or any Warframe which can set enemies to an unalerted and finisher-exposed state, would be a go-to for this weapon). Like with Umbra, and the Operator, it is a thing you will have to accept. Expect future Umbras and their exclusive weapons to share the same 'selling resistance'. At the very worst, if one's account got hacked and the hacker was trying to sell everything then wasting all the credits, or trade the plat to themselves, one would still have Umbra and Skiajati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodownthere Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, (PS4)iQuedas said: For some reason, DE decided to lock this weapon in our arsenal. I sent a ticket to support and, according to support, the reason for this lock is to avoid accidental sales. I get that some people might sell it by accident, but there are people who sell it because they DON'T WANT THAT WEAPON, knowing full well they can't get it back again. Instead of forcing us to keep this weapon, it would be much better if the game had a confirmation message asking you to type in some code in order to sell such unique items. This would pretty much solve the problem of accidental sales without upsetting anyone. You can't sell both the skijati and excalibur umbra and "accidental sells" means that we'd be required to have that item for an upcoming quest most likely being The New War. Edited July 9, 2018 by hellodownthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, hellodownthere said: You can't sell both the skijati and excalibur umbra and "accidental sells" means that we'd be required to have that item for an upcoming quest most likely being The New War. That's the most plausible reason I can think of. We'll have to wait and see if they can be sold afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Hold up, you sold the zenistar!? Sorry but all your arguments are immediately invalid. While it’s in a rough spot these days it’s still a great utility weapon and has one of the greatest glitches ever left on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade_Wolf_16 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Il y a 8 heures, (PS4)iQuedas a dit : FTFY There was nothing to fix in my sentence, so I'd prefer that you keep your own words for yourself instead of putting them in my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 the reason you can't sell it to free a slot is because it doesn't use a slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Dont know why everyones so against TCs wanting to sell a useless weapon. While i collect everything i understand that when looking at this weapon i cant help but ignore its existence. -But sentient faction damage! We have been killing them forever and a half without needing some bogus +33% faction damage mods. There are many more powerful and builds that put sentients back to bed. -Just Ignore it, its there, end of story While justifiable its not really an argument, DE has changed smaller things for less, this is triggering TCs OCD on some level, why is he not allowed to complain/ask for it to be removed. By that logic people shouldn't have been allowed to complain about the hemelith virus infecting their frames. -But why though? But why not? He doesnt want it, doesnt like it, is willing to give up the slots to get rid of it, whats wrong with wanting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Schobii564 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 This entire post hurts my feelings immensely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LoisGordils Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 2018-07-10 at 1:39 PM, (PS4)psycofang said: Dont know why everyones so against TCs wanting to sell a useless weapon. While i collect everything i understand that when looking at this weapon i cant help but ignore its existence. -But sentient faction damage! We have been killing them forever and a half without needing some bogus +33% faction damage mods. There are many more powerful and builds that put sentients back to bed. -Just Ignore it, its there, end of story While justifiable its not really an argument, DE has changed smaller things for less, this is triggering TCs OCD on some level, why is he not allowed to complain/ask for it to be removed. By that logic people shouldn't have been allowed to complain about the hemelith virus infecting their frames. -But why though? But why not? He doesnt want it, doesnt like it, is willing to give up the slots to get rid of it, whats wrong with wanting? "useless weapon" mega lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NecroLord91 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I don't know whether to joke about this thread or need to tell people to put some forethought into what they do on this... Decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenno.Rukasu Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 2018-07-09 at 11:56 AM, (PS4)iQuedas said: For some reason, DE decided to lock this weapon in our arsenal. That's right unknown reasons. Probably preparing for more Umbra stuff or some special mission/quest that will require that specific weapon. I'm glad that Skiajati is locked, and hope they don't disappoint us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schzym Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 The weapon is pretty lackluster when you compare it to Nikana Prime I want to sell it for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade_Wolf_16 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Il y a 4 heures, Schzym a dit : The weapon is pretty lackluster when you compare it to Nikana Prime I want to sell it for that reason Lackluster? Those are totaly different weapons. One is a crit-status hybrid (20% each) with a 1.08 attack speed and 95 base damage (90% Slash) while the other one is more status based (but still have a viable 15% base CC on top of its 27% SC) with a 1.17 attack speed at the cost of a 17.9 damage loss (and 78% Slash). Now, if you look further than just the stats, you'll see that it has an innate 100% chance to make the player invisible for 5 sec on Finishers (which fits Exca's abilities as well as others, such as Valkyr, Inaros and Gara, Steel Meridan procs and even the Tranquil Cleave's kick with the pause combo). Build wise, the higher attack speed of the Skiajati allows the player to build up the combo counter faster (better use of Blood Rush and Weeping Wounds) as well as proc more often (better use of CO). The higher status chance allows more procs while making either dual stat elemental mods or Weeping Wounds less mandatory for a good CO build. On the other hand, the Nikana Prime has more base damage and crit potential as well as still being status viable. Is the Skiajati better than the Nikana Prime? Or is it the opposite? A: Who gives a crap? Both are totaly viable and effective. We don't need "the best" weapon. What would be the point anyway? "Hey, I can kill level 1000 enemies 15 sec faster than you git gud Tenno scum." Just pick the one you prefer and stop saying that this or that is better even tho both are equaly viable for the game's current content. Just because some people find it less effective than another weapon doesn't mean it's worthless to the point of having less value than a weapon slot (which is only worth 6 plat in case you're wondering). Selling the Skiajati because it's "lackluster" to the Nikana Prime is just like selling: -Exca Prime because Umbra is "better"; -the Skana Prime because the Krohkur is "better"; -an extremely rare car because you have a faster one; -etc. But hey, what do I know. Non-Meta/Min-Maxers players (aka casuals who play for fun) are always wrong these days, everybody knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakraChime Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 They probably made it unsellable because they wanted to give the player a story weapon and not a free weapon slot. I dont like katanas or would ever use skiajati, but it doesnt bother me that i have it because im not losing anything from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotsender_Quasimir Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 a weapon slot is 6 plat. is that even worth opening a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchillado Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Kotsender_Quasimir said: a weapon slot is 6 plat. is that even worth opening a thread? MAN, CREDITS! Well, just imagine it isn't there. You've got it for free with a slot, you also get a lot of free slots through some juicy rewards. DE's free-to-play policy is so f-ing humble that you have no reason to request such a thing because of one weapon that is locked in your inventory. Maybe there's something about it in further quests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteMarker Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Yes, please let us sell the Skiajati. And then please make the next quest only available if you have the Skiajati. I could die happily of laugher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)cdzbrbr Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Jeez, where do I start? It's not just any weapon, it was heavily quest related and as is in many other games, such items are kept as memento. Also, if you still didn't notice, warframe lore isn't ready, it's not like GoT, where we could read the books and know what would happen up to a certain point and extent. Will the skiajati ever be needed? We don't know and probably nor does DE but they don't wanna hear whiny pleayers that deleted it by accident or players so full of themselves that block their feelings towards a special item and need to manifest it by deleting it rather than just not using it when they do, which is what a normal person would do. That type of person that likes to complain or create a problem when there is none. The personification of the motto 'There will always be someone to complain'. Edited July 13, 2018 by (PS4)cdzbrbr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Artakka Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 On 2018-07-09 at 10:49 AM, (PS4)iQuedas said: No, you can't. Luckily for me, I do collect warframes, but that's not a thing everyone in the game does. Same. Even if I could sell umbra and the skiajati, I wouldn't. Why? Because they're unique items that the majority of players dont have. Why would you sell something you worked so hard for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schzym Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 On 2018-07-13 at 2:10 AM, Blade_Wolf_16 said: Selling the Skiajati because it's "lackluster" to the Nikana Prime is just like selling: -Exca Prime because Umbra is "better"; -the Skana Prime because the Krohkur is "better"; -an extremely rare car because you have a faster one; -etc. All 3 of those items listed I'd have to pay for, I didnt pay for a garbage nikana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade_Wolf_16 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Il y a 1 heure, Schzym a dit : a garbage nikana Did you even read the rest of my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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