LemonKing Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, [DE]SpaceySarah said: While fashionable, Umbra’s overrides take away from overall potential looks of this unique Frame when combined with other skins. We would like to provide the option to toggle Umbra Scarf and Crescents on/off - and here’s how we’re going to do it: on Skins, the Umbra details will now be off by default, and you will be able to toggle these on as you so choose. As Excalibur Umbra has not followed the “true” Prime Frame rules, this process has been a bit complex, but we have used the tools that we have available to make this work. When you see ‘Toggle Prime Details’ on the Excalibur Umbra, know that it means ‘Scarf ‘n’ Stuff’! Hope you all enjoy the change! Yay! Although this at one time could be toggled via a UI bug. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidbringerx Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 k what if we dont go the toggle way option just remove the scarf/bits when using ligers deluxe skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, [DE]SpaceySarah said: Thanks to everyone for all the feedback on this in the past year, and (although delayed!) we would like to take the time to address what is a slightly tricky topic. We understand the frustration of the current inability to better customize Excal Umbra’s fashion, and the inconsistency this Frame has faced in comparison to others. In the past, our rule of thumb has been to allow for Prime Frames to have toggle options for TennoGen as TennoGen artists do not have the Prime Models to work with. While fashionable, Umbra’s overrides take away from overall potential looks of this unique Frame when combined with other skins. We would like to provide the option to toggle Umbra Scarf and Crescents on/off - and here’s how we’re going to do it: on Skins, the Umbra details will now be off by default, and you will be able to toggle these on as you so choose. As Excalibur Umbra has not followed the “true” Prime Frame rules, this process has been a bit complex, but we have used the tools that we have available to make this work. When you see ‘Toggle Prime Details’ on the Excalibur Umbra, know that it means ‘Scarf ‘n’ Stuff’! Hope you all enjoy the change! YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS YALL, DE !!!!!!!!!!! EDIT: Out of curiosity, could you be more specific about how Umbra's extra attachments (scarf, loincloth, crescents, etc) are different from the "true Prime Frame rules" in terms of implementation? Are all of these parts managed by a single toggle, or will scarf / loincloth / crescents be treated separately from each other somehow (e.g. having separate toggles for the scarf and the loincloth+crescents)? If all of these things are managed by a single toggle, then could an Umbra potentially appear indistinguishable from a regular Excalibur when wearing the same tennogen skin? Edited July 20, 2019 by SortaRandom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voidbringerx Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Victory!! luv u guys at DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, [DE]SpaceySarah said: When you see ‘Toggle Prime Details’ on the Excalibur Umbra, know that it means ‘Scarf ‘n’ Stuff’! Hope you all enjoy the change! Wait wait wait please separate scarf from other Umbra details by putting it in auxiliary slot, I don't want the looks completely gone, just want to use syandana instead of scarf sometimes. Edited July 20, 2019 by Ksaero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 11 hours ago, [DE]SpaceySarah said: Thanks to everyone for all the feedback on this in the past year, and (although delayed!) we would like to take the time to address what is a slightly tricky topic. We understand the frustration of the current inability to better customize Excal Umbra’s fashion, and the inconsistency this Frame has faced in comparison to others. In the past, our rule of thumb has been to allow for Prime Frames to have toggle options for TennoGen as TennoGen artists do not have the Prime Models to work with. While fashionable, Umbra’s overrides take away from overall potential looks of this unique Frame when combined with other skins. We would like to provide the option to toggle Umbra Scarf and Crescents on/off - and here’s how we’re going to do it: on Skins, the Umbra details will now be off by default, and you will be able to toggle these on as you so choose. As Excalibur Umbra has not followed the “true” Prime Frame rules, this process has been a bit complex, but we have used the tools that we have available to make this work. When you see ‘Toggle Prime Details’ on the Excalibur Umbra, know that it means ‘Scarf ‘n’ Stuff’! Hope you all enjoy the change! We did it guys and gals! Perseverance at its finest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refticus Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 12 hours ago, [DE]SpaceySarah said: Thanks to everyone for all the feedback on this in the past year, and (although delayed!) we would like to take the time to address what is a slightly tricky topic. We understand the frustration of the current inability to better customize Excal Umbra’s fashion, and the inconsistency this Frame has faced in comparison to others. In the past, our rule of thumb has been to allow for Prime Frames to have toggle options for TennoGen as TennoGen artists do not have the Prime Models to work with. While fashionable, Umbra’s overrides take away from overall potential looks of this unique Frame when combined with other skins. We would like to provide the option to toggle Umbra Scarf and Crescents on/off - and here’s how we’re going to do it: on Skins, the Umbra details will now be off by default, and you will be able to toggle these on as you so choose. As Excalibur Umbra has not followed the “true” Prime Frame rules, this process has been a bit complex, but we have used the tools that we have available to make this work. When you see ‘Toggle Prime Details’ on the Excalibur Umbra, know that it means ‘Scarf ‘n’ Stuff’! Hope you all enjoy the change! the end of an era of complaining and bumping the thread is here. thank you for doing this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Refticus said: the end of an era of complaining and bumping the thread is here. thank you for doing this! A new era is approaching. An era of complaining about scarf not being separate from other Umbra stuff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ksaero said: A new era is approaching. An era of complaining about scarf not being separate from other Umbra stuff. It clips with the chestplate and Syandana... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Datam4ss said: It clips with the chestplate and Syandana... Exactly, and other Umbra parts have no such problem. That's why scarf needs to be in auxiliary slot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Avant Solace Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 2019-07-19 at 3:41 PM, [DE]SpaceySarah said: Thanks to everyone for all the feedback on this in the past year, and (although delayed!) we would like to take the time to address what is a slightly tricky topic. We understand the frustration of the current inability to better customize Excal Umbra’s fashion, and the inconsistency this Frame has faced in comparison to others. In the past, our rule of thumb has been to allow for Prime Frames to have toggle options for TennoGen as TennoGen artists do not have the Prime Models to work with. While fashionable, Umbra’s overrides take away from overall potential looks of this unique Frame when combined with other skins. We would like to provide the option to toggle Umbra Scarf and Crescents on/off - and here’s how we’re going to do it: on Skins, the Umbra details will now be off by default, and you will be able to toggle these on as you so choose. As Excalibur Umbra has not followed the “true” Prime Frame rules, this process has been a bit complex, but we have used the tools that we have available to make this work. When you see ‘Toggle Prime Details’ on the Excalibur Umbra, know that it means ‘Scarf ‘n’ Stuff’! Hope you all enjoy the change! Not to sound pushy, but is there an ETA on this update? The phrasing makes it sound like its out already, but there isn't anything new on console or any patch notes about it on PC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ne0m1s Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Yes, I know that Excalibur Umbra is Objectively better but honestly I like Excalibur more because he just doesn't have the scarf and everything thats on umbra, I wish i could turn everything off on umbra so i can play looking like the og Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Uhm.... you can... Go to your Arsenal... Click on Appearence.... then Change The helmet and Skin to whatever you want 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ne0m1s Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 No, you cannot turn off the scarf for example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Just now, ne0m1s said: No, you cannot turn off the scarf for example I'd suggest you read the latest news before making any posts. they're gonna fix the scarf thing soon giving you the option to remove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, GinKenshin said: I'd suggest you read the latest news before making any posts. they're gonna fix the scarf thing soon giving you the option to remove it Sweet, here's hoping that they also let us toggle Mag Deluxes bib too and Wisps built in cape for science reasons. Edited July 21, 2019 by Oreades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, ne0m1s said: No, you cannot turn off the scarf for example You can't ? Hmmmmm.... oh well... if only you had Excalibur Prime.... Oof !!! 28 minutes ago, GinKenshin said: I'd suggest you read the latest news before making any posts. they're gonna fix the scarf thing soon giving you the option to remove it Well thats irrelevant. The point is its not fixed now.... Personally I don't mind but I see why most players want to have the option to change it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Puckish_Rogue125 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lutesque said: Well thats irrelevant. The point is its not fixed now.... Personally I don't mind but I see why most players want to have the option to change it... As a heads up it's not at all irrelevant. In fact it is the only relevant response here as they have now been informed that the thing they want is a change that is coming. Whereas you misinformed OP and brought up excalibur prime as a joke who isn't even relevant to the topic of uunbra's scarf vs normal excal skin. Edited July 21, 2019 by (PS4)Puckish_Rogue125 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkornedBeef Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, ne0m1s said: Yes, I know that Excalibur Umbra is Objectively better but honestly I like Excalibur more because he just doesn't have the scarf and everything thats on umbra, I wish i could turn everything off on umbra so i can play looking like the og Same bro same! Excalibur is the best frame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, GinKenshin said: I'd suggest you read the latest news before making any posts. they're gonna fix the scarf thing soon giving you the option to remove it Really? May I ask when they said it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I do agree it should have been an auxiliary attachment. I do like it though, so I will still be keeping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamazuki Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Marvelous_A said: Really? May I ask when they said it? I don't know if DE announced it anywhere, but reading "recent news" isn't going to tell you anything. Here's the thread with a DE response though: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Yamazuki said: I don't know if DE announced it anywhere, but reading "recent news" isn't going to tell you anything. Here's the thread with a DE response though: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, (XB1)alchemPyro said: Not to sound pushy, but is there an ETA on this update? The phrasing makes it sound like its out already, but there isn't anything new on console or any patch notes about it on PC. Not a pro but I don't think it's gonna take too much time. It's essentially the same to how they do it on a prime warframe coz all umbra cosmetics and scarf included are just extra 3D models being put on a re-textured Excalibur. Edited July 21, 2019 by Marvelous_A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutesque Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, (PS4)Puckish_Rogue125 said: As a heads up it's not at all irrelevant. In fact it is the only relevant response here as they have now been informed that the thing they want is a change that is coming. Whereas you misinformed OP and brought up excalibur prime as a joke who isn't even relevant to the topic of uunbra's scarf vs normal excal skin. An Honest Mistake.... im only human after all.... also your solution is great for a Theoritical Build Of Warframe that doesn't exist.... but in the actual game as it exists now.... Its useless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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