Lowpeace Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Hey. So I recently bought Saryn, which I think is a really fun frame, and also the coolest looking one in the game. The issue I am having is that I can not reliably puncture the cysts her Venom ability creates in order to spread the venom. Any tips? How do you guys do it? Do I need a special weapon and/or mod to better be able to do it on demand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrirous Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 It seems that alot of the spores from venom are actually being put inside the mobs, a gun with puncture helps alot with bursting them. I made a topic about it with a video showing my friend bursting venom sacks and killing waves of mobs with it. should check it out, I think you'll like it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL1WAN Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Get continuous weapons like Ignis or take advantage of Shotgun falloff damage.Not sure if this works for everyone: Set your Venom to rank 2 and only rank 2. It yields big spores which is a no brainer to shoot at. It works for me all the time. Edited August 22, 2013 by KasaneTeto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntyd1s Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Or Forma the 2 power slots for something actually useful, I only use Molt and Miasma, the rest are not worth the energy. the coolest looking one in the game. indeed :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 welcome to the saryn master race op. enjoy your stay. on topic: shotguns work wonders... so do squad mates with bad/good aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowpeace Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Shotguns? Fair enough. I'll pick one up and give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowpeace Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Get continuous weapons like Ignis or take advantage of Shotgun falloff damage. Not sure if this works for everyone: Set your Venom to rank 2 and only rank 2. It yields big spores which is a no brainer to shoot at. It works for me all the time. I tried having the level 2 venom, and while the spores seem bigger, they don't seem any easier to pop. Then again, we shouldn't really be penalized for maxing out the level on our mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksk16it Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Or Forma the 2 power slots for something actually useful, I only use Molt and Miasma, the rest are not worth the energy. No they are. Miasma is actually not worth the energy beyond certain point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanityRobot Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Or Forma the 2 power slots for something actually useful, I only use Molt and Miasma, the rest are not worth the energy. Venom used properly is the most damaging ability in the game...besides Nova. Contagion is pretty take it or leave it. Edited August 22, 2013 by SanityRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Venom is actually literally broken at the moment, I would suggest enjoying it before they both nerf and fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksk16it Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Venom used properly is the most damaging ability in the game...besides Nova. Ehh.. beyond a certain point it surpasses every ability of Nova... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksk16it Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Venom is actually literally broken at the moment, I would suggest enjoying it before they both nerf and fix it. Yeap thats why I have a Nova ready. When they nerf venom, I m gonna make Nova my dps main. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourGrandfather Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Flux rifle + Shred bursts the venom cysts all the time for me. shotguns works too, like the strun.. but the flux is much more effective Edited August 22, 2013 by YourGrandfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntyd1s Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Venom used properly is the most damaging ability in the game...besides Nova. I have maxed out and retried using it a moment ago... can't seem to get any crowd-control efficiency out of it, infection radius and damage are too small to kill mobs, shooting them straight in their faces is easier, faster and requires no energy. Any tip will be appreciated. o.O Edited August 22, 2013 by ntyd1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksk16it Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I have maxed out and retried using it a moment ago... can't seem to get any crowd-control efficiency out of it, infection radius and damage are too small to kill mobs, shooting them straight in their faces is easier, faster and requires no energy. Any tip will be appreciated. o.O You will need Stretch mod. I am not 100% sure, but it seem to affect the radius of how far venom spreads after being popped. My venom seem to spread from as far as the range of Nova's MPrime's detonation radius. After that, dont try to "aim" venom spores. Their hitboxes are bugged like !@#%. I am pretty sure the spores are displayed away from hitboxes sometimes.. =.= To solve this problem you need : 1. puncture mod 2. auto/semi-auto rifle OR shotgun If you are using pistols, then same applies there too. Use pistols like afuris/twin vipers or bronco/bronco.prime/dual.broncos if u prefer shotgun'ish pistol. Multishots mode will HELP a lot. Besides that, you may want to get rate of fire mod (speed trigger, shotgun spazz, gunslinger.. depending upon ur weapon). Magazine size mods and/or reload time reduction mods are also useful if your gun has long reload times with short clip sizes, eg : dual bronco. Freeze mods help a lot. If mobs are running too fast, fire a few shots at them to slow them down, and then cast venom. Furthurmore, you dont need Serration, Hornet Strike, Armor Piercing mod etc. Your weapon is being used to "pop spores" and NOT for "damage". Its OK if you are doing 1 point of damage to a level 30 ancient with your weapon, your venom is there for the damage. My Saryn build is (all mods are max rank) : Energy Siphon, all 4 saryn abilities, Streamline, Flow, Continuity, Constitution, Focus, Stretch My Dual Broncos (all mods are max rank) : Barrel Diffusion, Seeker, Lethal Torrent, Pistol Ammo Muation, Ice Storm, Stunning Speed, Quickdraw, Slip Magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanityRobot Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Afuris set up as a bullet hose is excellent at "priming" a Venom onslaught. Once you get a couple pops everything just starts blowing up and melting everywhere...getting it started is the limiting factor. And it admittedly isn't worth it at low levels. Everything dies in a couple hits from almost every weapon anyway. When armor starts escalating and it takes hundreds or thousands of bullets to kill things like Ancients, it really starts to shine. Edited August 22, 2013 by SanityRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3raph Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You will need Stretch mod. I am not 100% sure, but it seem to affect the radius of how far venom spreads after being popped. My venom seem to spread from as far as the range of Nova's MPrime's detonation radius. After that, dont try to "aim" venom spores. Their hitboxes are bugged like !@#%. I am pretty sure the spores are displayed away from hitboxes sometimes.. =.= To solve this problem you need : 1. puncture mod 2. auto/semi-auto rifle OR shotgun What are you supposed to aim at if the hitbox is bugged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanityRobot Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What are you supposed to aim at if the hitbox is bugged? Just spray as many bullets/pellets in the general direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanityRobot Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm actually using Afuris with no damage mods, just to help make sure the target doesn't die before it spreads the plague to everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksk16it Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What are you supposed to aim at if the hitbox is bugged? What Sanity Robot said :- Just spray as many bullets/pellets in the general direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanityRobot Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) I just know they are going to end up "fixing" Venom. I only hope they decide to replace her Miasma with Venom. It is so much more fun and satisfying than the "huge aoe damage" ultimate. It would be a shame if they just changed it to not be able to spread multiple times. Edited August 22, 2013 by SanityRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rksk16it Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I just know they are going to end up "fixing" Venom. I only hope they decide to replace her Miasma with Venom. It is so much more fun and satisfying than the "huge aoe damage" ultimate. It would be a shame if they just changed it to not be able to spread multiple times. Yeap, I have that feeling too. I *guess* the only thing keeping most of the players from realizing venom's potential is the hitbox bug of spores. As more and more players use puncture mod and see the *beauty* of venom, more and more hosts will crash, and DE may end up fixing it. And from "fixing it" I really mean removing the ability to spread infinite times. We should just have fun while it lasts xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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