Mesa's peacemakers do in fact work with acolyte mods

[birdobash]

I was testing and messing around with mesa's peacemakers in the simulacrum today and was testing out acolyte mods which for some reason can be put into her regulators unlike melee acolyte mods which completely dont let you put them on melee exalted weapons. Funny thing is, sharpened bullets is supposed to only give its stat boost when aiming, but clearly mesa isnt aiming right? Apparently not because when I tested with a bare build without corrosive against level 115 heavy gunners (so enemy armor didnt go down and I had a linear damage number that was consistent) i was getting around 250 ish damage on a yellow crit shot, but once 1 heavy gunner died and I got sharpened bullets procced, my yellow crits jumped from 250 to 410 ish. This means 1, even though mesa in her peacemaker visually does not look like she is aiming down sights, she apparently is aiming down sight according to sharpened bullets and 2, this means acolyte mods do in fact work with peacemaker, besides that fact that hydraulic crosshair cant proc unless the enemy is straight below you and peacemaker auto aims into their head.

Edit: I realized something really dumb, for some reason if mesa's augment mesa's waltz is equipped on mesa, she gets the benefits from acolyte mods like sharpened bullets, but for some reason without mesa's waltz it does not affect it. Theres some weird mumbo jumbo going on in here.

Edited August 17, 2018 by birdobash

[(XBOX)GearsMatrix301]

Congratulations, you just ruined a super secret game break for all Mesa Mains.

[yles9056]

1 hour ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

Congratulations, you just ruined a super secret game break for all Mesa Mains.

But Peacemaker is already super strong without acolyte mods. Mesa doesn't need them anyways.

[Trollsbane]

Remove this at once before someone sees it

[kyori]

I see. So again Pablo made mistake in his mesa’s waltz programming. 

[yles9056]

22 minutes ago, kyori said:

I see. So again Pablo made mistake in his mesa’s waltz programming. 

Are you sure Pablo is responsible for this? I mean it's not like DE only has one programmer in their office.

[Talinthis]

RIP cool Mesa build

[Sephryn_]

Delete this quickly before someone sees it

[Prime-Ares]

@birdobash Well thanks for ruining a fun little secret in Mesa's works. Good on you. Wanna also let DE know the secret to using your weapons in the liset and which frames specifically to nerf for affinity-farming tilesets?

Edited August 17, 2018 by Prime-Ares

[Gremlin]

Cool, didn't know, but she doesn't need it I think. Should probably get fixed if not intended, but if it is thanks for the heads up. 

[Arcainyx]

11 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

Congratulations, you just ruined a super secret game break for all Mesa Mains.

2 hours ago, Prime-Ares said:

...thanks for ruining a fun little secret in Mesa's works...

This information has been on the WF Wiki for some time now.  How much of a "secret" is it if people have been able to read about it on such a frequently used site?

[(XBOX)GearsMatrix301]

Just now, Arcainyx said:

This information has been on the WF Wiki for some time now.  How much of a "secret" is it if people have been able to read about it on such a frequently used site?

It’s a matter of whether or not DE knows about it.

[Tricky5hift]

11 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

Congratulations, you just ruined a super secret game break for all Mesa Mains.

Pretty most people knew this by now...

[Joe_Barbarian]

Just now, Arcainyx said:

This information has been on the WF Wiki for some time now.  How much of a "secret" is it if people have been able to read about it on such a frequently used site?

Because casual pubbies need something to cry about, today it's a "Secret" getting spoiled what everyone knew, hell i knew and I dont even like or play mesa.

[(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA]

2 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

It’s a matter of whether or not DE knows about it.

I'm gonna go make a thread about this in the bug report subforum just to make sure they know about it.

But seriously, a "game break"? I doubt it even matters.

[(XBOX)GearsMatrix301]

6 hours ago, (XB1)ECCHO SIERRA said:

I'm gonna go make a thread about this in the bug report subforum just to make sure they know about it.

But seriously, a "game break"? I doubt it even matters.

Idk, stopped using Mesa after they fudged the initial polarities on it. Rather forma the prime

[DarthKadra]

Except the way I see it, the only Acolyte mod that could be worth using is Sharpened Bullets and from what I've seen in my testing the setup with 2x60/60 + 1x90 always beats 1x60/60+1x90+Sharpened Bullets and doesn't require any triggering.

Edited August 18, 2018 by DarthKadra

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

19 hours ago, yles9056 said:

But Peacemaker is already super strong without acolyte mods. Mesa doesn't need them anyways.

This^

Edited August 18, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

19 hours ago, yles9056 said:

But Peacemaker is already super strong without acolyte mods. Mesa doesn't need them anyways.

right!! Also I can't stand Mesa Waltz anyway. Oh hum

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

19 hours ago, yles9056 said:

But Peacemaker is already super strong without acolyte mods. Mesa doesn't need them anyways.

 and she doesn't need Mesa Waltz. 

Edited August 18, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

5 minutes ago, DarthKadra said:

Except the way I see it, the only Acolyte mod that cratherould be worth using is Sharpened Bullets and from what I've seen in my testing the setup with 2x60/60 + 1x90 always beats 1x60/60+1x90+Sharpened Bullets and doesn't require any triggering.

I'd rather use x2 60/60 and anemic. No room for sharpened. Oh well. 

[(XBOX)YoungGunn82]

22 hours ago, birdobash said:

mesa's augment mesa's waltz

Meh. I'd rather bullet jump, slide, 4, kill everything, 4, bullet jump, and rinse repeat. 

[(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA]

1 hour ago, DarthKadra said:

Except the way I see it, the only Acolyte mod that could be worth using is Sharpened Bullets and from what I've seen in my testing the setup with 2x60/60 + 1x90 always beats 1x60/60+1x90+Sharpened Bullets and doesn't require any triggering.

FWIW I've tried 2 60 + 1 90, I tried this and a few other things. I've had the best results running 2 90s, with anemic agility. Extra fire rate makes up for the lost status chance. Ymmv

[Atsia]

I do think the Devs know this exist cause the other exalted benefit from having the mods on the base melee.

[DarthKadra]

43 minutes ago, (XB1)ECCHO SIERRA said:

FWIW I've tried 2 60 + 1 90, I tried this and a few other things. I've had the best results running 2 90s, with anemic agility. Extra fire rate makes up for the lost status chance. Ymmv

Yes, it can vary depending on the whole setup with the strength, hornet strike, fire rate etc. But since I'm already running Arcane Velocity my fire rate is pretty high, so the setup with 2x60/60+1x90 seems to work best for me

 Anyway, speaking to the point of this topic, I don't think that Sharpened Bullets could really replace another mod in any final setup. By final I mean that you have access to all mods and arcanes and you can combine them into some final build. If you lack some mods, however, then yes, it can be a very nice addition. Maybe it could be on par with another mod in some cases, maybe, but I don't think so, so it's nothing like a "super secret game break" like some people have described it.