Odjit
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Beginning to end, still no frame. Watched it same time as a friend on skype who got it right away, before the stream even ended 😞
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I haven't gotten it either, watched the whole stream =(
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I can sell my 250+ stable corruptors for 50 credits.... one... at... a....time. Oh boy!
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the names still have to be entered = they still have to come up with the names dude = limited amount dude.
still LOL-ing @ your magic
A generator.. generates the names and can insert them on their own. It is actually quite simple. It is the same as any random number generator generating a random number and then using it. Regardless, names have no bearing on behavior. As I stated, the drone event had an inherent limited amount to destroy as the bar was to 100% destroyed, and yet there were still more. There was actually a clear % there, and yet, still more. Keep giggling, silly man.
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lololololol...what an imagination you have there. Ships with specific names can just spawn randomly. Now that my friend is magic. True magic. Not even J.K Rowling tops that. Now you're just making me laugh. lol I mean i'm just like
"I have addressed that point before. Just because the ship have names doesn't = a limited amount..Mobs kept spawning past being 100% destroyed, ships can keep spawning past some unstated amount"
this will have me laughing for quite some time. thanks bud.
Its like you've never encountered a random name generator. They will really blow your mind.
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I believe the difference was stated above, where DE stated that the mobs would keep spawning for the personal scores of the competition that was going on.
After the completion bar finished, it was stated. Prior, no. We still haven't gotten the "EVENT COMPLETED" post. Or edit. So still no difference in information dispersal thus giving still no warning.
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I'm saying that if someone's as worked up as you they maybe would have noticed those things. It didn't take me much more than five minutes of seeing where the ships were showing up and that there were never two in one area to figure that out. Not much guess work there. and no, "Be vigilant" mean's just that; keep an eye out; stay alert. And if it was really so dang horrible, maybe you shouldn't have gotten those "thousands" so that some of the people who missed out could have gotten them. Unless you didn't notice that there was only one ship per air space and that they weren't going to throw in a fresh cycle at the last minute for people who may or may not even log in to play the event.
You're basically going the fallacy route of saying "pay attention to D data and ignore data A through C". Previous events that were advertised the same exact way lent belief that you would actually have the entire duration. This time they mentioned NOTHING about changing, and yet you want people to toss out all previous observations about events for some vague new one that aren't even specific? Silliness.
Also super late edit (sorry!):
If you want people to take from this post that it was going to end early/was limited, could they not have taken from the first line of the post that their "help" would still be needed on the 29th? How are we helping now? They said it would be needed! HOW COME ITS NOT NEEDED MAN. It impliiiiies that we're still needed, yet we're not! OH GOD THE LACK OF CLARITY" Calling all Tenno! Your help is needed July 26 until July 29 @ 12 PM EDT!"
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basically the same thing I said. =\ apparently there is no response to that one.
defeats the purpose of the event.
also defeats the purpose of the event. I doubt the corpus will just hand out the mods after they "grudgingly' reward us for saving their stockpiles.
Since you're replying to everyone, care to reply to my previous post?
I have addressed that point before. Just because the ship have names doesn't = a limited amount. Its not like they said "destroy ships Sam, Jane and Joe." I passed by your post because it was just as silly, making the playerbase have to guess and divine information changes instead of stating that the behavior has changed. Ships were added by a patch/update just like the other events, so I'm confused as to why you and the other person thinks the implementation is different. Mobs were spawned before, this time its spawning "ships". Mobs kept spawning past being 100% destroyed, ships can keep spawning past some unstated amount. I don't.. I don't even understand how you think its a point.
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So what you're saying is that the fact that one ship showed up for each planet wasn't clear enough that there'd be one ship for each planet after the first day? As for the drones and the Moa, they're mobs inside a map and while I agree that they could have left the broken ships up for the late birds that didn't get it over with at the start... "Be vigilant, Tenno" was ignored as they weren't vigilant or it wouldn't have been a surprise that they couldn't clear the ships after they were broken as well as the fact that no extra ships showed up where one was already destroyed. If you feel this passionately about events I can only advise that next time you not try waiting for the last seconds of the game to try playing. It's like seeing a new game system coming to stores and thinking if you show up just before closing time that they'll still be one there waiting for you.
To those not blaming DE for the event not running it's full time due to the flood of kill-happy players, thank you for your understanding.
So now "Be vigilant, Tenno" implies they need to get at it early, rather than just during the timeframe? You're placing more and more implication and guess work for the playerbase, instead of noting that the event should have been stated more clearly.
I feel passionately because it is wrong, and it caused a lot of people to miss out. I got all my points. I got like thousands. Still doesn't make it ok. I've also already mentioned the fact that stores and stock always say "while supplies last", which DE did not do. So please, don't make that old tired comparison that only still goes to prove DE was unclear.
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From A SINGLE legion as in we could kill more we just weren't getting any more progress, you know because we destroyed the legion the event revolved around.
If only a single legion was coming, then its all of 'em. They did say a SINGLE legion was infiltrating, thus there wasn't more legions coming, so where did those extra drones come from? If it was more, shouldn't it had stated "legions" and then even then, you still spin around following the same logic issue. If you destroyed 100% of the thing they said was coming, there can't be more. Except there was. You're still flailing logically, sorry.
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But how much does them directly saying, vs. just implying really matter?
We had a limited time to destroy X ships. That much is clear in their description. Regardless of what X is, X is limited. If they did the event your way, sure, everyone could have participated. It also would have been impossible to fail, and felt completely different. This event felt like a coordinated assault against an enemy that had to be destroyed or else we'd suffer a very real consequence of reduced resource drops.
Personally, I like this event, and I hope they continue to do similar ones.
It apparently mattered a lot, because a lot of people didn't make it in time because they believed they had the amount of time they said we had. So obviously, fairly important to directly say that your timeline isn't actually accurate.
Also it isn't impossible to fail. We barely scooted past the 100% drones with only a couple hours left.
Lore wise, yes the punishment of "reduced resources" instead just the "you don't get your prize" punishment is pretty cool. However, we always would suffer a very real consequence. This time it was just resource halving instead of no prize for everyone.
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"Band together to eradicate a legion of Spy Drones infiltrating Tenno forces throughout the solar system: succeed and be handsomely rewarded." Directly from the Spy Drone event thread. It states pretty clearly we were to eliminate a single legion. I don't see anything about every spy drone.
Eradicate = destroy. The bar in the game at the time was % destroyed. If you destroy 100% that would be.. every... drone. O_o.
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srsly dude you should read the mission descriptions clearer:
for the drone event it said " if we have to kill enough" to get the reward; not ALL of them just enough (100% of our goal not 100% of drones). so even after reaching 100% of our goal means that there are still drons left.
This time it stated: we have to destroy ALL ships. so 100% here means no more ships left.
Drone event stated the goal was to eradicate them. If the goal is to destroy all of them, then 100% is all. You need to read mission descriptions clearer.
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So what you're saying is that DE should have accurately predicted the exact number of ships that their playerbase was going to need during the time limit so that everyone could participate. You're kidding right? This is the first time they've tried an event like this, there was NO way they could have known how much participation they were going to get.
Now who needs to work on their logic?
Still you.
I did not say they should have accurately predicted. I said they should have SAID there was a limited amount. Please don't put words in that I did not say.
What they should do is just have a disabled ship that will blow at the end date, thus sticking with 'lore' and yet still sticking with the timeline they said people would have to participate like past events.The drones weren't predicted exact either. Yet you could still hunt them after "100%" of them were eradicated.
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So with the drone event, that was successful on a Monday morning, when they were in office and when they were able to keep it running. with the fomorian ships the event ended on sunday night.
I don't think anyone was in office to keep it running. So yea...the drone event wasn't kept running due to magic; they were actually in office to do this. it's not the same with the ships which ended on sunday.
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Moa event completed on a sunday as well and kept going. Being in office or not has nothing to do with this =/
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100% destroyed/eradicated/obliterated/annihilated/what have you for the objective not purge the universe of all grineer drones..... logic it escapes some
If this was true, why would you not apply the same logic to the ships. If you destroyed all the ships for the objective, it doesn't purge the universe of all fomorian ships!... What is good for the drones, is good for the ships. Geese, gander, more old sayings, etc.
You can't look at ships and say "the unspecified number of ships are all gone, but 100% of something being eradicated isn't all gone". Your logic needs work, mate.
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Not magic. DE made a post ingame telling the players that the event was won BUT they leave drone farming in for a few more hours so people could farm more for the leaderbord.
I guess this time they wanted to stick with the "exterminate" theme of this event to the end. only a limited amount of targets just like normal exterminate mission.
They stated the GOAL was met, and that the event was still running till the end date like they said it would. Which has deviated here, without warning. Magic was about the fact that despite 100% drones being destroyed, there were still more drones, so the whole "we destroyed all ships, so why would there be more ships" is just silly.
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The drone bar never stated that it was 100% of the Grineer's drones so there were still more for us to shoot they just weren't useful anymore lore wise. It was just the amount we needed to complete our objective.
i.e. enough drones to figure out the snipetron shipments
It was a "destroyed" bar, and the post stated clearly that we were eradicating them. Eradication = destruction, just like the ships. If you eradicate 100%... math isn't hard, mate.
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If there were limitless ships, how could we possibly destroy them all by the deadline?
Yes we didn't know the exact amount of ships we had to destroy, but common sense dictates that there is a limit. Otherwise there wouldn't be any way to succeed by destroying them all, or fail and suffer the consequences. Sure, we didn't know the exact number (personally I think that was an interesting aspect given the lore associated with the event) and that might be a change DE can make in the future, but put blame where blame is due.
Blame is due on DE. Do you just choose to ignore the fact with the drone event, despite 100% drones being destroyed, THERE WERE STILL MORE DRONES. Why suddenly with no mention on the number of ships, or stating that there is only 1 per planet, or anything like that, there can't be more ships. It doesn't have to punish, it can just be for participation, just like prior events.
A completion bar prior did not mean the event ending. The parameters changed, without being stated as being changed. That is on DE 100%.
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I agree that there was a horrible lack of information regarding the event in the initial announcement. DE didn't even release the amount of points needed to recieve the highest award, I had to track that down on the wiki. The lack of information is something they can improve on.
HOWEVER, reading the description they provided it was clear to me that A: We had a limited time to complete the event, and because of that B: That there were going to be a limited number of ships. If there were a limitless number of ships we could never complete the event by the deadline. This game is in BETA stages right now, you can't fault DE for trying something new and unique for their events. They have to establish if this kind of event works, what kind of participation is going to happen, etc. I think it says good things about this community that we were able to finish so quickly, it's unfortunate that some people were left out, but that's the nature of limited time or limited supply events. You can't please everyone.
Like I've stated: the drone event had it where you were to eradicate the drones. Bar reached 100% destroyed. Yet there were still more drones. Magic?
It was anything BUT clear. Clear would have been saying you have until the ships are destroyed. You know, actually stating it. Making the community guess or be in the dark is bad. You can't say "hey, discard the data of past events, and only take into account the vague and unclear supposition that this time, it really will be limited to a number, rather than a timeframe, you bad planners you".
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I wonder if this would have made people "change" their plans and come on and play earlier rather than attend to whatever engagements they had that they could not put off otherwise. If so, wouldn't the ships have been destroyed even faster that way? Wouldn't there then be even more people who "didn't get to play because the event finished early"??
Look, no offense but the grineer can't have an infinite number of ships to begin with. Nor can they have a number of ships relative to the rate at which they were being destroyed because, like I stated before, the ships would keep spawning.
Even if DE had stated something like "you have until all 13 ships are destroyed, or risk failure by x date" would the engagements that kept people from playing the game become less important to them? or would they still have had to attend to it? because after all it is a game.
If anyone missed the event, then you simply missed the event. Warframe is still here and there'll always be event. Besides, there's salty dudes here who are hoping that the rewards are crap. So I guess not much is missed to begin with.
:S
Yet with 100% drones eradicated, there was still somehow more drones. There is established trend that there was no limit to the amount you could kill, it was only the timeframe limiting you. This was changed without stating, and that is why people are upset. When they are given the same parameters, but then the behaviour changes, it is upsetting. If they had been clear about it, at least people wouldn't have been under the status quo that it would behave the same way as before. They might not like the change, but at least it would have been clear, and the players thus would have a fair and clear chance given the new requirement.
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"Be vigilant, Tenno! You have until July 29th to complete your mission. "
Thats from the first post, for me this line means that we have to destroy and ergo win the event BEFORE 12 PM July 29th. also they mentioned penalities if we dont destroy all ships. That shouldve made clear that theres a limited number of ships and made (at least for me and, by hte looks of it, many others) clear that the event can end before July 29th.
Everything was in the startpost of this thread.
+ DE is not obligated to keep the ships up once the mission was succesful.
All prior events had the same wording.
All "until" says, is that after July 29th, you can't complete it. Like I stated as well, completion does not equal ending; look at all the prior events. MOA bar 100%, completed Sunday. Kills still counted till monday at 12. Same with drones, we were eradicating them, and yet somehow with 100% destroyed, you could still kill more until the time wall given.
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what people dont seem to understand is that this is a event with a deadline. that means you have till the deadline to destroy the ships or face a penalty, NOT that you can farm and earn points till the deadline. Of course it can end sooner if the playerbase kills all of em fast enough. If a store gives you a timed sale till the times over or they run out of stock you cant complain if you appear afetr they are sold out.
Sure it be nice to give all players that havent gotten even 1 point an option to jump into one run for participation, but DE is not obligated to ensure that you gain 250 points. Everybody had the same chances; if you didnt have the time or planed wrong that is bad luck on your end.
on different note: i really liked the event. it promoted teamwork for maximum amount of points per run. getting the corruptors was easy enough and the sabotage itself was dependign on planet easy to a small challenge thx to the new enemytpye.
good job DEVs. keep the good work up
Actually, you don't seem to understand. Going with your example, store offers always state "while supplies last". Prior events like the drone event, where we "eradicated" them, and got to 100% destroyed... except the event kept going and you could still kill more until the end date. DE broke from prior behavior without warning. All events prior to this have been completed early, but did not end until the times stated. This one was different, and without warning.
DE mentioned nothing similar to the "while supplies last". If they had, it would have looked like "you have until all 13 ships are destroyed, or risk failure by x date".
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That's it I'm gonna find someone or pay someone to start up an English class on the fourms since people can't read it seems, since you're set on the fact that it doesn't imply the event can end early.
The ships had health, there was only gonna be one per planet. It had a time frame to finish in, we finished it early because that's what we do when we want to. You didn't get your points, I don't think it's fair for people who put their time and effort into getting top ranks, and points for their mods to have them spawn more ships so you can walk casually through to get your mods aswell.
You would fail an english class. All you do is assume way too much. You're putting in words where there were none. You would be mind blown by the classes in law that show you to knock off that crap.You're just spinning in place because you're blaming something on reading comprehension when you're completely failing in logic.
Also, another assumption of yours: I earned all my points mate. I argue this because DE failed, not because I did. Just because I think they did wrong doesn't imply I didn't get them. Ooooh, man, those implications, gettin' you.
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