[The Steel Charge/Legendary Cores Discussion Megathread]

Pretty sweet of DE to throw a bunch of S#&$ in people's face. I've got 100+ bucks invested in this game, and they decide to give out prizes that are worth everything I've ever achieved in-game and then several times more. I'd love to hear the white knight crew give some actual, legitimate arguments for supporting:

 

- a window of only four hours between the announcement and the patch, in the middle of a weekday

- giving out a prize that is statistically worth much more than even the most expensive object it is replacing, twice over

- giving out a compensation for each mod, with no reasonable upper-limit to prevent exploitation.

 

I'm waiting. Responses with the words "entitled", "kids", "baby" or "cry" will be ignored completely. Let's have an actual discussion hm?

[Some Concerns From An Average Player]

TLDR : reading is good for you, do it.

 

[100 Missions Was Too Much.]

In my opinion, I probably had the time to actually do 100, but I couldn't bring myself to do one single more exterminate with the same map and enemies once I hit 50. It's simply to monotonous, even rushing them as fast as possible it was excessively grindy, even for this game. I wouldn't have minded if the missions got mixed up a bit, maybe some 5 minute survivals and stuff to make it more interesting. As it was, if the battle pay wasn't so ridiculously amazing in some cases, I probably would have done 5 and no more.

[Why Are Gms Allowed To Conduct Themselves In An Insulting And Dismissive Manner?]

Geez why do you all go and pester the devs when they're just trying to play/test the game. If you have a problem or concern, you should go to the forums. I would get frustrated too if I was just trying to play but constantly had players whining that the RNG drop tables aren't felating them.

 

Ironically, you pester them on the game, and then when they get frustrated, you come on the forums to complain about them. Skip the pestering and just come to the forums with your whines/RNG complaints

Please re-read post. Cheers. If devs aren't interested in constructive criticism and discussion than there's nothing that will save this game.

[Why Are Gms Allowed To Conduct Themselves In An Insulting And Dismissive Manner?]

That's being spoiled to be honest. I don't know of a single online game that gives as much info as DE does... I REALLY DON'T and I have played over hundreds... and when I talk to them I get that Halo 4 Representative talk like what happened to Angry Joe. I get the political run around... DE doesn't do that. They are extremely honest, they take our words to heart, they even take our suggestions and use them in the game. They have been very kind with many players answering questions in a timely reason. Tons of bugs have been fixed. They have managed multiple teams to release multiple content to entertain all forms of players.

 

They have opened their game base for everyone. Collectors, rare hunters, PVP, PVE, random madness killing, space ninja fans, full armor fans(Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Karas), Sci-fi, Gun Nuts, Melee nuts. They have done it all and its very pleasing. They hear us and they release all manner of interesting things. Even a giant mech is hinted at in one of the PVP arenas just like we all wanted. Several various new weapons, and bosses are being worked on as we speak as seen in the Design Council.

 

They work with us, and I am happy with the job they do. I am not content, I am satisfied beyond reason. DE has done a good job in making the forums more friendly, adding fun features, fixing certain bugs with posting pictures. They have fixed many of our weapons such as colors. They have buffed, and nerfed accordingly to how we begged for it. They gave us glaive when we asked for it. They gave us dojos when we asked for it. They have given us all manner of fun, and enjoyable things so far in the game.

 

I personally find it hard to complain. This game is almost exactly every I ever wanted in my entire life time. There has never once been a game this epic before in the past. Finally something came... and is leading the way for a vast, and epic Sci-fi genre explosion that will take the gaming community by force.

 

I'm going to be honest, I'm having a bit of a hard time taking you seriously. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and trying to have a constructive conversation. It's now (very) apparent that you have no interest in have a discussion, and instead want to promote only happy times and good thoughts. I'll leave you to polish the knobs around here, I'm trying to create discussion to make the game better.

[Why Are Gms Allowed To Conduct Themselves In An Insulting And Dismissive Manner?]

If you dont have the time to play a video game ..... why are you playing a video game?

 

Of course I have time to play video games, don't be ridiculous. I wouldn't bother making the topic if I didn't play this game. I'm not interested in taking shots in the dark regarding where mods drop, nor do I believe any community to be any good at all regarding group-compiling of statistics. I don't believe that total RNG is interesting or fun, or a good way to draw new people in.

[Why Are Gms Allowed To Conduct Themselves In An Insulting And Dismissive Manner?]

I stand by DEs decisions to prevent people from Data mining... I feel its cheating. Not in a strategy guide that you paid for way, or in the way where its passed around by word of mouth from experience like the good ol NES days, but the kind where you take a game tear it apart and figure out all the codes. Its not right to do. It is receiving stolen goods if you did look at he data mined info. I have never looked at it. I have always asked around. We should do more looking and talking, rather then using various methods to tear open the system and look into it.

 

edit: I get the feeling many members of DE are ticked beyond reason about the data mining... hence why some are extremely edgy when asked about it and explode... Plus the reasoning behind encryption possible due to arguing, and upset employees.

 

Thank you for a response from the other side of the spectrum. I'd like to ask you though, do you feel this system is respectful of your time, or the time of others? Do you feel this is acceptable system moving forward with the PS4 launch, or for new players in general? All I feel like is that this lack of information wastes my time and makes me not want to play.

 

I would like to caution that I do not intend for this to be a discussion about the drop tables themselves. It's pretty clear what side I'm on regarding that. I'm more interested in comments about the actions the DE has taken community-wise.

[Why Are Gms Allowed To Conduct Themselves In An Insulting And Dismissive Manner?]

Please see the following reddit topic and screenshots for some context, it's not me that was involved in this, but I can understand where this individual is coming from and it is honestly bothering me, as someone who put a lot of time and money into this game:

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1oev0v/bronco_prime_barrel_still_not_in_the_drop_tables/

http://imgur.com/a/BiqAM

 

Why are GMs allowed to act in such a rude and dismissive fashion? This was a legitimate concern of a player, this part does not appear to be fixed on the drop tables, and it was pushed completely off the table in those conversations. I admit, maybe not the best time to push for an answer, but the only thing that needed to be said was "We're not here to discuss drop tables at the moment, we're working on solutions for that". Instead, they are very aggressive, and trying to imply that we are stealing (?) because we have some knowledge of the drop tables? What sort of community management is that? I don't see how this helps in any way. None of us are thieves, we just want to know where to look for things so as to not waste our time.

 

I'm highly disillusioned by what I've seen here. I wish I didn't support this team financially. In the interest of discussion though, I would like to start with a few prompts to get us talking in a constructive way:

 

1) Do you think that this sort of attitude is acceptable from the context of community outreach? Why or why not? Would it be acceptable internally to have these thoughts?

2) Do you believe these statements are insulting of the player base in general, as I do, or do you feel it is an overreaction from the player's side, DE's side, or both?

3) Do you believe the idea that anyone who wants to reverse engineer drop tables is a thief? Why or why not? If you do believe that this person is a thief, have you ever used any datamined information on the wiki?

 

PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE A TROLL/FLAMER: I am not interested in witchhunting these individuals, nor am I whining and trying to get my way. I am merely pointing out something that has bothered me from conversation I have seen, and wish to make others aware of it and bring a discussion to the table. If you are not interested in addressing any of the above prompts, or have other relevant information to share, I will not be replying to you or acknowledging your (lack of) contribution.

 

Cheers all, thanks for reading and considering.

[Rng Based Progress + No Drop Tables = No Longterm Players.]

I'm desperate for drop tables. PLEASE DE. Treat the time of your fans with respect. Working towards a long-term goal is fine, blindly shooting in the dark for a 1/1000 chance mod to drop is not.

[Been Playing For Several Days, Have Never Received A Daily Login Reward]

I am very sure that I have never once been shown anything besides the normal planet select screen upon logging in. I have viewed screenshots of what the process looks like, and I have not seen anything like that yet.

[Been Playing For Several Days, Have Never Received A Daily Login Reward]

Hello support,

 

I have been playing Warframe for about a week now, and I have learned that there is a daily reward I am meant to receive for logging in on consecutive days. That would be really cool if I could get these, is there a bug related to this I am unaware of? I have yet to get any notice for any gifts and I have been on every day. I would like to buy some Platinum if I could score a discount code, but if I never get the chance to get one, I won't be able to.

 

Thanks.

 

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