(XBOX)Rufnax
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Yo, maybe I missed that information somehow but I was wondering if and when blink and all those archwing changes will come live in warframe?
I thought it should come with Saint of Altra but I am not able to find any informations. Any official information available here tennos?
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Dear DE my feedback on Nightwave after finishing it: Nightwave totally burnt me out on this game. I finished that series and immediately shut down the game and haven't touched it since then. The challenges are boring and repetitive as #*!% and it just totally killed my fun in that game. Additionally playing on a regular basis a huge amount of days for one week with the pressure to do so was just a pain in the ass instead of fun..for example the 5x Sortie missions...Hell I don't have enough spare time to play 5 days in one week so I sometimes really had to cut short on another end like time with friends and family to finish that challenges 😕 It was a feeling over the past weeks like I had to finish a project for my job instead of some relaxing hours on my couch to calm down after a hard business day. Is this really what DE wanted their playerbase to go through with Nightwave? Seriously hope they bring big changes for Series 2. Otherwise I might be done with this game.
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vor 16 Stunden schrieb (PS4)guzmantt1977:
Did you really just try to silence another person because they don't agree with your position?
nope. I was just wondering why some people feel obligated to critizie other peoples ideas without providing useful feedback to them. Just saying "your idea is bad" isn't useful in any way.
Just saying "nope NW is good as it is and shoudln't be changed because I can do it so everybody else can do it as well isn't useful as well.
vor 16 Stunden schrieb (PS4)guzmantt1977:Yes this is a place for us to try and improve on the system. But a lot of the suggestions are just plain bad. Sometimes they're bad in a non-obvious way to some people.
so do you really think that you are the alpha who should decide which ideas are bad and which not? Are you really that entitelt to your own S#&$ that you think you can be in the position to say if an idea from another person is bad or not? I really try not to attack you here just to make that clear but you should really think about yourself and your way of communication when you think that you are in the position to judge over other peoples ideas. You are no moderator, no administrator and especially not a developer. You are playing yourself here. Sorry to say but the ironie is strong in your post. You ask me if I really try to silence other people and a few sentences later you say that other peoples ideas are just plain bad. Nice one. Seriously. But this discussion isn't helpful in any way and I do not want to argue with you about that topic as it will not lead in any helpful direction. I wrote my ideas to improve that NW system. I can't do more and I will not stay here to critize other people.
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vor 30 Minuten schrieb (XB1)Tatakai no Kami:
You do understand Tennogen requires DE paying the creators right? They make money from the sales of what they create. DE giving away Tennogen skins for free would negate the whole point of Tennogen. If you want a Tennogen skin buy it, and support the creators of them.
The rest of what you say is hard to grasp because it basically sounds like you want exactly what we have but don't understand that what we have is what you want.dude is this something like your job or so? This thread is for players with ideas and concerns how to improve nightwave but the only thing that you are doing here is arguing against the idea of other people and trying to prove them wrong because your opinion about Nightwave is superior. Don't get me wrong but I am just confused why you are here arguing against everybody else but do not provide any helpful content at all. Doesn't make sense for me and you are no way helpful but disrepecting other people ideas.
Do you just have fun criticizing other people idea or do you just want to make sure that Nightwave will be as you think it should be? Just curious about your intention here.
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You people really take hm serious? lul. top tier troll thread right here. That dudes need to go to hot page emmediately
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vor 2 Minuten schrieb (PS4)Nek_Food:
Mostly, I think Nightwave AS IS, is not a replacement (not even a bad one) for the alerts as it was presented, especially for the newcomers and low level players. I really feel it was rushed out (maybe just to stop some players to just play other new games instead of Warframe - not a bad move from one point of view), so it wasn't ironed or worked enough as it should.
totally agree with that. I think Nightwave was rushed because DE wanted to tie the players to Warframe because they feared of losing them when Competitors like Anthem and Division 2 are getting released.
So it was something like a panic move and they hurt themself in their confusion.
I know that they are nomally listening to their players as I am playing this game for a long time now but recently I am not sure about this anymore. There has not been any statement from them on this topic for about 3 weeks and the gap in the player base is getting bigger and bigger. It's like with that chat moderator topic where they didn't react properly to the matter and then it all blew up over their head. Not sure if DE is willing or able to review their latest actions and act properly this time.
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vor 9 Minuten schrieb (PS4)Nek_Food:
The worst part is that I feel that this Nightwave stuff and the challenges is getting the community divided and toxic too...
Warframe is a game, an really nice game. I want to have fun playing with it, don't want to forced into it and make it like a job (one I don't even like perhaps).
Yea, I want to be able play other games too and then to be able to return at warframe and still have the opportunity to get everything that added into the game that brief time I was "away" with my own terms and pace, not being constantly forced to play every single day just to get that shiny new thingy or else I'll miss it forever (or for the next year or so).
I need to take a summer break perhaps... a couple of weeks or a whole month why not, just to get detoxed from my games addiction... 🙂
...nope you are forced to play until you are sick and tired and burned so much from it, so that the next thing you do is erase it and end with it.
Yeap, almost there... am I? Summer is coming... 🙂
amen brother. Amen. Seriously the worst about nightwave in it's current form is the split is has created in the community and I hope DE see's what they have done.
It feels like different fractions fighting against each other with different interest not willing to work together for the big whole benefit.
Please look at my comment about removing the time gap for the Seasons to end and let me know what you think about that.
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vor 4 Minuten schrieb (XB1)Tatakai no Kami:
Tell me, when we had the old alert system were you on here complaining they should extend the alert timers to weeks so you could get all of the alerts done? And earn all of the nanospores?
I never said I want the old alert system back. I said I like the new nightwave system in it's basic idea. And nobody complained about the old alert system being unfair because it came every few days with the same old rewards. When you missed a chance you knew you will have a new change in some time. It's completely different with Nightwave and you know that.
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old- forget about that. DOon't know how to delete the comments here.
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vor 2 Minuten schrieb (XB1)Tatakai no Kami:
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice comes out this week. I'm going to be playing the hell out of that, It might mean I fall behind on Nightwave. If I do, that's on me because I want to play SSDT. And you know what? I'm not going to complain about how DE is unfair because I wanted to play SSDT and have all of the Umbral potatoes too.
fair point sersiouly but I want to state that I don't complain I just want to give feedback on how to improve that system for all players. That's all. And that is where a feedback thread is here for. Right? Where is your feedback and ideas how to improve the system? You good with it? That's great and I am happy for you. But other people are not and therefore we have this thread. Just because you are personally not affected doesn't mean other people have not a valid argument. As you can see there are alot of players feeling this way and that's why we have this current "Split" about nightwave in the player base. And I just don't want this.
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vor 7 Minuten schrieb (XB1)Tatakai no Kami:
Simple. On the basis of if you're not doing the challenges, why should you get the rewards that the people who are doing the challenges are earning? The rewards are earned, Even if the challenges are sometimes not actually challenges like the Modular item and Forma ones this week.
I work 12-hour shifts, Work is short staffed right now so I'm working extra shifts, But I am still managing to easily do the majority of the challenges in an hour to an hour and a half each day.that's just the old "I can do it so you can do it as well" argument and that is just a false assumption.
I also do not understand why you arguing about an idea to improve the game for casuals that would not even effect you in anyway. But as you are not personally affected by the situiation please just think about the following scenario:
Just think that maybe you would have a car accident and you broke your leg and therefor need to be in a hospital for 6 weeks (I know that this is a long time for a broken leg but the point is clear I think). In the hospital you are not able to game the whole time.
After you come back home you now have two options:
1. all your progess is lost and you didn't get the change for the reward you already put alot of work in before your accident
2. you can continue your own grind at the point where you have left and can get the stuff that you wanted.
What would you prefer? And also then just think that anybody would just say to you. Mmmh sorry man..you broke your leg (or your mother is ill) so you didn't invested the time and so you don't "deserver" the rewards. Shounds S#&$ty doesn't it?
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vor 3 Minuten schrieb (XB1)Tatakai no Kami:
Because that means more work for DE. Bigger updates for Warframe to cover the extra content.
- please explain to me how the update package will be bigger just because there are different rewards and cosmetics in the tier system. Sorry but even when I understand your intention here I highly doubt that this will blow up any update package system with a noticable data amount. As mentioned other game developers have sucessfully managed to run individual tier systems without blowing up the update size.
And what happens in 2 years when there are 12 different Nightwatch events running because people who don't have the time want all the stuff? How many bugs and glitches will be created by such a convuluted mess?
- also doubt that as the rewards and challenges do not involve new things to do. It's unlikely that you will encounter more bugs in a task like "kill 1500 enemies" or because another player has another challenge active. That's just a counter for a statistic that the Game has anyway about your progress. I could be wrong sure but I highly doubt that this will increase the amount of bugs in the game. But I would love to see a statement from an actual Warframe DEV about this. When they agree with you I would count this as an argument. But for the moment this is just an assumption. So not a counter argument for my idea.
But basically, the thing is, if you don't have time to do 60% then you don't deserve to get the level 30 rewards.- I am not sure if DE really wants to loose on alot of the casual player because DE thinks they don't deserve the rewards. They are a company and should therefore be interested in the solution that is best for the whole palyer base. Where is the problem with a more fair and balanced solution for everyone. As said I don't want to take anything from the Hardcore Players with my idea. So I think that everyone should have the possibility to get the rewards.
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vor 2 Minuten schrieb (PS4)nating51:
I definitely agree. Maybe they could block the access to next season until the player has completed the previous one.
not even sure about that. Just for example when a player is absolutely not intrested in the rewards that one specific season provides he could just move to the next season when it started without finishing the current one and grinding for stuff he doesn't have interest in. No need for a "block" till you finished one season in my opinion or?
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are you serious or are you trolling? I highly explained that I do not have the time to finish that 60% and the only argument you are bringing is this?
Dude seriously please just add helpful comments. Why not extend the time frame given for players that need it? Any downside for you with that? No? Then please just hold your comment for yourself mate. I don't want to attack somebody here but comments like that are the problem why people fight so much about nightwave currently. There is no actual feedback in your comment. Just the typical "just play more" nonsense. So please just be quiet when you have nothing constructive to add to the conversation.
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Guys wouldn't be the easiest solution to just remove the Time Gate for the single seasons to end?
I have thought alot about the current Nightwave System and it's Pro and Con's and I think the Solution for atleast "most" of the Issues that the individual players have is pretty simple.
We have mainly two parts of Player
1. People who like nightwave because it gives them something to do -> named the Hardcores even when they maybe aren't that hardcore but just for better understanding
2. People who say that Nightwave made Warframe into a daily routine / task / chore instead of a fun game to play -> called the casuals also jsut for better understanding.
So I completely understand the Hardcores even when I am more on the casual side but acknowledge the fact that the Nightwave system provides the players with some nice rewards and atleast "something to do" and I think that is worth alot and I am happy for all the hardcores finding the time and willing to put that many hours into a single game.
Then we got the casual who moan about that the Grind for Nightwave is just to much to combine it with their actual social life and that Warframe feels like a chore now and I have to say that I totally agree with this opinion. I am stand alone single dad with maybe 1-3 evenings of free play time a week. Some weeks more. Some weeks even less. So just to make it short. No i do not have the time to complete the nightwave even when it's only at 60% and you save all the "get gud" or "get better" troll comments for yourself. I want to play other games as well and I don't want to invest all my free time into gaming or even in a single game.
So that means I understand and appreciate the new Nightwave system with it's tasks and it's rewards and I don't want to argue about that but just let's discuss about what is causing the "pressure" and feeling to be "forced to play" for all the casuals here on the forum (including me).
The point is that Nightwave Season just runs for a specific time and after that all your effort get's lost. So that means that you have to invest a specific amount of time in a fixed time frame to complete Nightwave and get all the rewards. The question is why it has to be like that?
My simple solution is to just remove the Time Gate for the single nightwave seasons. With this simple small change the hardcore player won't have to miss anything about their beloved grind system and they can grind as much and as fast as they want to get to lvl 30 and even more. So no changes for hardcores -> good..right?
And for the casuals it means that they don't feel the pressure to complete the 60% over a specific time and they can grind the Nightwave system when they want and when they can. So it's not a shame when you miss out a few weeks in between. When you login you can always continue to grind your own progess on nightwave.
DE could still start the Season 2 after the few weeks and every player get's the chance to just choose as an option to continue in season one or move further to season two.
So you can decide if you want to change to the next season or now. And no it's not a big effort for DE to let several nightwave seasons run at the same time.
PokemonGo and several other Games running their gameplay progress system or field research system run individual for every player. So that's not an argument here in my opionion.
In my head atleast that is the most perfect solution for the two big player groups and I am happy to hear your thoughts about my idea but so far I couldn't find any downside for one of the two player bases and this makes it a perfect solution. Also this should be just a small change for DE with not a lot of development power needed.
Would love to hear DE's statement for that Idead and when you agree with me please spread the message to make DE see this simple solution.
Also give us an option to mute Nora. Damn that grill is annoying as hell after a while.
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I don't dislike the Battlepass idea in general as I acknowledge that it provides huge benefits over the old alert system for everybody and I also understand that alot of hardcore players desperately search for "something" todo in Warframe.
But I really have to say that this new system completely destroyed my motivation to play Warframe at all as I already know from the beginning that I won't reach a 60 or 65% mark at all and I also totally dislike that Warframe turns more into a "i have to play it daily because I must complete the Grind" game.
I understand that it can be a motivation for alot of people but I personally don't want to see a Game as a daily / weekly task that I HAVE to do like normal Tasks as making the dishes or cleaning my house.
I just have to much too do in my personal life to reach the 60% mark and therefore don't even try bothering with that game at the moment.
I personally hope that DE will change the principe just a bit (as said I don't dislike the battle pass Idea in general) so that it will be more suitable for causal players like me but as seeing that the Elite challegenges for this week take even more time to complete destroys my hope. I guess I have to acceppt that casual players like me are not the target audience for Warmframe (Digital Extremes) as we just generate not enough profit in the Games as a Service market.
Sad but true. Still sad.
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Totally agree with the OP.
I don't dislike the Battlepass idea in general as I acknowledge that it provides huge benefits over the old alert system for everybody and I also understand that alot of hardcore players desperately search for "something" todo in Warframe.
But I really have to say that this new system completely destroyed my motivation to play Warframe at all as I already know from the beginning that I won't reach a 60 or 65% mark at all and I also totally dislike that Warframe turns more into a "i have to play it daily because I must complete the Grind" game.
I understand that it can be a motivation for alot of people but I personally don't want to see a Game as a daily / weekly task that I HAVE to do like normal Tasks as making the dishes or cleaning my house.
I just have too much to do in my personal life to reach the 60% mark and therefore don't even try bothering with that game at the moment.
I personally hope that DE will change the principe just a bit (as said I don't dislike the battle pass Idea in general) so that it will be more suitable for causal players like me but as seeing that the Elite challegenges for this week take even more time to complete destroys my hope. I guess I have to acceppt that casual players like me are not the target audience for Warmframe (Digital Extremes) as we just generate not enough profit in the Games as a Service market.
Sad but true. Still sad.
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I don't dislike the Battlepass idea in general as I acknowledge that it provides huge benefits over the old alert system for everybody and I also understand that alot of hardcore players desperately search for "something" todo in Warframe.
But I really have to say that this new system completely destroyed my motivation to play Warframe at all as I already know from the beginning that I won't reach a 60 or 65% mark at all and I also totally dislike that Warframe turns more into a "i have to play it daily because I must complete the Grind" game.
I understand that it can be a motivation for alot of people but I personally don't want to see a Game as a daily / weekly task that I HAVE to do like normal Tasks as making the dishes or cleaning my house.
I just have to much to do in my personal life to reach the 60% mark and therefore don't even try bothering with that game at the moment.
I personally hope that DE will change the principe just a bit (as said I don't dislike the battle pass Idea in general) so that it will be more suitable for causal players like me but as seeing that the Elite challegenges for this week take even more time to complete destroys my hope. I guess I have to acceppt that casual players like me are not the target audience for Warmframe (Digital Extremes) as we just generate not enough profit in the Games as a Service market.
Sad but true. Still sad.
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vor 27 Minuten schrieb NocheLuz:
OK...
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Basically, you want new system to.... what? have wider range? maybe instead of weekly it should be monthly now (lol). Each person have difference play style, someone play it daily and someone play it whenever they feel like it. So they should get the same rewards? I would say the system do have the flaw of some people who love to play Warframe but don't really have time for it would love to sacrifice sometime to just log-in and do 10 minutes daily happily. That is, if they really love Warframe and not just log-in whenever they feel like.
But I do feel some people might not be able to log-in and play the game daily. Fortunately, daily persist for about 3 days I think? (need confirmation) so basically you can log-in each 2 or 3 days and still get all the daily easily.
1. I personally would be fine when there would be another option to earn wolf credits instead of every few standing levels and that they do not just decay after the season ends.
So I would atleast be able to farm my wolf credits for the stuff that I would have gotten before with a little luck from time to time like extractors, nitain extract or cosmetics.
So everyone will have something to farm for. You can farm for to increase your standing and I can farm for my basic alert stuff. Wouldn't change anything for the experience on your side in my opinion.
2. make it 5-8k for each standing level or increase the possibilites and amount to earn standing. So the casuals would have an easier time farming standing and the hardcore players can do the same but just faster. Wouldn't also change anything for you just that you can grind faster than the casuals. Right?
**EDIT: I just realized that decreasing the of standing per level wouldn't solve the issue and just move it to another point. But yeah as I said I am no expert with that stuff. Most obvious solution is for me to descease the difficulty to earn standing but I don't know if that will cause other issues.
Would that be such a bad solution? I don't think that this will take anything away from you as an hardcore player but also gives people like me the opportunity to atleast have no downside with the new alert system as I can still regulary get my reactors and stuff.
Oh and I just want to add that obvious information that I am at no point an experienced game designer or anything.
These are just my thoughts as a casual player loving to grind warframe every few weeks a bit.
I am most probably sure that there are people out there with better ideas how you could optimize the new alert system for the whole player base.
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Gerade eben schrieb NocheLuz:
Is it that hard to accept the Nightwave then? You don't have to do daily, you just have to do every weekly (included Elite) to reach rank 30. So, Is it that hard? Or you find that old Alert where everything appear at random and you don't even have time for it anyway suit you better? Let's say that you have 1 hour each week, you can finish atleast 4 to 6 weekly challenge and get about 12k to 16k point. Is it hard? Or you find that the random time you were play and not getting Alert you want is much easier? I think you should look at what better. Not that I said I won't accept your play style, it's only you who said that. So, I assume you happy with randomness of Alert system than you choose your reward of the new system. Since you said something about nitain extract, I would assume you do have time to play and get those in regular basis... Why can't you do that with Nightwave is beyond my comprehension.
Also, even if you don't do daily. You can do weekly, even if it did reach the 60% meme, I would say you still get reward more then old Alert gave to you.
please see my comment that I just wrote.
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vor 29 Minuten schrieb (PS4)Yes-Man-Kablaam:
Framkly unbeknownst to you you were missing a HELL of a lot more stuff before with the old alert system than this. This still allows you to catch up to get stuff. But rng decided every week while you were away you'd miss a catalyst or reactor alert and it's just gone too bad.
yeah well nobody said that the alert system was better but all I am saying is that the new system needs a bit of optimization. That's all. Problem is that people apparently assuming that you want to have the old stupid alert system back just because you say that the new one has it's flaws and that's not true.
I like the new system itself from it's idea but I think it can be optimized to appeal to a wider range of people and play styles.
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vor 4 Minuten schrieb Aldain:
Because everyone but them is lazy and endless missions going for 2 hours should be the only game mode and anyone who doesn't like it should stop playing their game.
Or something like that, honestly all I've seen from those in favor of these 60 minute slogs are insults and "BUT YOU ONLY NEED 60%" and it isn't inspiring me to suddenly join their side of the argument.
Most of the time the community of Warframe is fine, but this whole Nightwave ordeal has kicked a hornet nest.
lmfao exactly! "but you only need 60%" sounds like a #*!%ing meme to me at this point already.
But yeah the amount of hate and split in the player base that DE managed to create with this new reward system is insane.
Strangely I only see two kind of people, the people saying that the "time of investment forreward" is not suitable for them and the people that attack them with being lazy.
Why not a few people attacking the no-lifer neckbeards for being hardcore to make the circle perfect? Just strange for me why the community reacts like that instead of working together.
Hardest part is that all the big youtubers / content creators following the same band wagon because there is not a single Tuber that can only invest a few hours every few weeks.
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vor 13 Minuten schrieb NocheLuz:
If you don't want to play daily there are always Elite challenge. I just layout some facts. If you don't want to do daily just do Elite. If you don't want to do Elite just do daily. It's just as simple as that. Also, Daily is super easy. It don't take even 10 minutes to complete one. But If you feel like 10 minutes per day is very long... Well... Even old Alert require you to play atleast 10 min survival and no body complain about it...
that's not what I said. I just said I don't have the time to play regulary. It's not about having the time to play 10 minutes or 30 minutes or even an hour. It's about finding the time at all.
And just to follow your example I would
1. need to play 10 dailys to get 10.000 XP to get one rank, correct? That means I would need 30 days to get to rank 3 to get 50 wolf credits to get some alert items that I could farm withing a few minutes before?
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2. play the weekly challenges for about 5.000 standing each with 2 weekly challenges for each weak makes also 3 weeks to get to lvl 3.
Sounds not like a good concept for me but ok.
But that isn't even what I was talking about. I don't understand why you people hate so hard on the people saying that they don't have that much time to invest? Is it really that hard to accept that other people have other life schedules and maybe not the time that you have left for playing games? I always thought the WF community was good but the hate that I see against just some people saying "oh well this new reward system is not really compatible with my life (gaming style)" is astonishing.
Why can't you people accept that there are some people that have not the same life as you and work together to make a reward system that works for casuals and hardcore players instead of convincing me to "just play regulary".
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vor 2 Minuten schrieb NocheLuz:
Basically, 60% mean you can skip some Elite challenge but not normal weekly and daily.
If you do all daily and weekly and only done 1 Elite weekly, you'll get about 3 ranks per week and reach rank 30 before 10 weeks.
why people always assuming that everyone can play daily? Dude what when I just can play from time to time every 2-3 wekks? I know that I am not allowed to get the Armor set in that instance and I am even ok with that. DE trying to reward all the no-lifer hardcore players here and I get that but seriously I will need about 3 weeks to get 50 wolf credits to then get some nitain extract? WTF?! There should be another option to earn wolf credits or atleast they should not disappear as soon as the season ends.
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Archwing Changes / Blink
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ah ok. So it's not like it has been already released and I just missed the info right? K thx...Then I will wait...