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_Shikeishu_

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  1. Hi and Wall of text alert.

    I'm quite new, since i started on switch release. I'm now MR10 and on pluto, and i feel strongly enough about nightwave that i needed to give my feedback...

    (Oh,and I'm french so sorry about my english, i'll do my best 😛)

    Some comparison with fortnite incoming, because Nightwave is in a way very similar to the battle pass system, both in presentation and in effect on the player. I know, differents game and all, but bear with me !

    In both game's "season", you see tantalizing rewards, and challenges to get them. This encourage people to play, so this is good! But there is some crucial differences in my opinion :

    1- Nightwave challenge don't stay every week. So if you come in too late, sorry, you won't be able to finish... but you will still see for a long time the things you won't get on your mission screen. This is bad design in my opinion, because it can go against the initial objective and can make you give up on playing. If challenges could stay (and you said in a recent stream you had all challenge active at the same time on dev mode, so it probably is possible !), it would let people play at their own leisure during the 10 weeks, and maybe even progress in the game up to the point they would be able to do the sortie / eidolon challenge for example. It would also alleviate the "ticking clock of doom" effect, which, sure, can cause short term engagement but burn out people in the long term

    2- Nightwave challenge require you to have advanced in the game up until a certain point, or to have good enough frame/weapons, depending on challenge. Compare to fortnite : since there is no progression between games, challenges can be done by anyone if they are dedicated. Even if they started yesterday ! This ties to my next point :

    3- Nightwave challenge rewards are unfair. Elite weeklies give much more than normal weeklies, which give more than dailies. This is a bit of a good thing (difficulty and challenge are fun etc...) but this is also a big problem because, if you want to complete Nighwave, you NEED 30k a week. If you fall behind, you will also be in the demoralizing situation of untainable rewards on your star chart (see 1). 

    What's more, the "60% challenge needed" is actually "60% reputation needed". With 3 elite weeklies at 5k, that mean you need to do some elite / farm convicts, or you have already failed. So if you can't do the elite challenge, you NEED to do everything else including dailies if you want to complete the event. You NEED to login quite a lot instead of playing regulary but as you want ! 

    So no holidays or day off warframe for you. We went from "snooze you loose" to "not enough warframe, no reward for you".  Is that really better? This is especially true if you are a newer player, who DE actualy probably want to stay and not burn out of the game... Yes, you do not have to finish it all, but let's be honest : the battle pass design is made to make you feel you are missing out (that's why fornite does it) and gamers often tend to have a completionist side.

    In my opinion, all challenge should give the same rewards, so that no matter what type of challenge you choose to do during the event, you would be able to get to 30. BUT, in order to reward end game player doing everything, most of the post-30 ranks giving wolf cred should be atainable only by those dedicated enough. So you get more stuff (nitain, orokin reactor/catalyst etc) if you are dedicated, but the rest of us don't feel like we are missing on unique stuff.

    TLDR :
    1- Let challenge stack all though the 10 week, to promote playing at your own pace and let newer player catch up
    2- Give same rep reward for all challenges, but balance it so that doing all elite challenge get you most ot the post-30 wolf cred prestige ranks.

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