Dual Zorens, Loki, And Red Crits

[honeybadger]

I just picked up dual zorens and noticed that when I cloak with Loki and regular melee, sometimes (fairly often) RED crit numbers appear instead of what I expected to be yellow crit numbers.

I have 2 questions:

What procs red crits?

What special properties do red crits have? Is it a simple damage threshold when you crit that determines if the number is red or yellow? Dual Zorens do have a huge base crit damage multiplier.

PS. Dual Zorens are awesome.

Thanks!! <3

[Gryphticon]

PS. Dual Zorens are awesome.

Only when they're leveled up and super charged :/ I crafted dual zorens and honestly prefer my lvled up melee weapons...

[Dr-Jelly]

I don't know how to proc red crits but red crits those way more damage than yellow crits.

[honeybadger]

Im having a blast with them even at level 7 -- I have a 50% melee damage mod on my Loki and Invisibility grants a nice damage boost.

Without those 2 things...I can see them being a bit underwelming.

[Scherhardt]

Red Crits = Crit of a Yellow Crit.

[Strat]

Only when they're leveled up and super charged

That's pretty much true for any weapon.

[honeybadger]

Red Crits = Crit of a Yellow Crit.

Cool, good to know -- that leads to: How do crits...crit? Is it another crit chance? Could there be triple crits?

[GloranSW]

Dual Zoren outclasses every other melee weapon; especially on Loki x4 crit damage (CritD) modifier and 45% base crit chance (CritC) paired with a good attack speed granted critical hits by Invisibilty; shreds trough everything in seconds.

about red numbers; i can't tell exactly it seems like there is a chance for crits to crit.

So basically the chance is not very high you'd rarely get any reds, BUT it seems like Invisibilty sets your CritC to 100% and you get the actual CritC you have unstealthed on top. Would explain all the red numbers and bloodshed im getting at least.

on Level 1 Grineer White:37 Yellow:151 Red:228

on Level 1 Charger White:300 Yellow:1317 Red:1977

Without any +CritD Mods

so the CritD modifier for Red is about 6.1 - 6.6 times and for Yellow 4 - 4.4 (on Dual Zoren)

Edited March 5, 2013 by GloranSW

[honeybadger]

Dual Zoren outclasses every other melee weapon; especially on Loki x4 crit damage (CritD) modifier and 45% base crit chance (CritC) paired with a good attack speed granted critical hits by Invisibilty; shreds trough everything in seconds.

about red numbers; i can't tell exactly it seems like there is a chance for crits to crit.

So basically the chance is not very high you'd rarely get any reds, BUT it seems like Invisibilty sets your CritC to 100% and you get the actual CritC you have unstealthed on top. Would explain all the red numbers and bloodshed im getting at least.

on Level 1 Grineer White:37 Yellow:151 Red:228

on Level 1 Charger White:300 Yellow:1317 Red:1977

Without any +CritD Mods

so the CritD modifier for Red is about 6.1 - 6.6 times and for Yellow 4 - 4.4 (on Dual Zoren)

This is wonderful information. Thank you, sir!

[Shinikage]

I play a Frost, and i LOOOVE dual Zoren on him! He looks awesome! I found that when rate is upgraded fully on the dual Zoren the are beast. They don't even give enemies the time to recover!

[GloranSW]

Just did a test run because i was curious about Triple Crit Possibilty; replaced all Mods with 14,x% CritC and had Hit 1 which did double the damage of a regular Yellow crit and was shown in Yellow (48 Kills). Couldn't get any reds to do so but if you ask me; that confirms there is a chance to triple crit.

[honeybadger]

Just did a test run because i was curious about Triple Crit Possibilty; replaced all Mods with 14,x% CritC and had Hit 1 which did double the damage of a regular Yellow crit and was shown in Yellow (48 Kills). Couldn't get any reds to do so but if you ask me; that confirms there is a chance to triple crit.

Its possible you hit a weak spot on the enemy giving 200% damage. Unless melee cant proc weak spot bonus damage.

[francJ]

It can crit red damage on weakspot too. You can knockdown an ancient and hit it's head and it does more damage.