PaperTofu Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) More specifically, dual heat swords vs. dual skana. According to the wiki dual heat has 150 charge dmg and skana only has 100, although I've heard some people say the numbers on DH is off. Can anyone confirm this for me? Thanks. Side note, how's furax? Forgot to clarify: only talking about charge attacks, not basic. Edited March 24, 2013 by Fapgasmic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr-Jelly Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The numbers aren't off. Furax has the highest dps in game, melee wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperTofu Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) The numbers aren't off. Furax has the highest dps in game, melee wise. Even more than two-handers? According to wiki both dual heat and furax have 150 charge damage though. Edited March 24, 2013 by Fapgasmic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G3rman Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Base damage, dual zorens can outpace them with crits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr-Jelly Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Even more than two-handers? According to wiki both dual heat and furax have 150 charge damage though. Furax is a two-handed. It's charge speed it's high and damage is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenapan Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Base damage, dual zorens can outpace them with crits. isnt crit % increase broken atm? and didnt they lower zoren's crit damage and base damage by a load?add the "sometimes charge when pressing e" bug kinda makes my dual zorens ... lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteCopain Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) The numbers aren't off. Furax has the highest dps in game, melee wise. They count as light and cna't stagger though, right? Personally I love my Dual Skana--- thoguh If Dual Heat is better in every way, I guess I should go that. Edited March 24, 2013 by WhiteCopain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G3rman Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 isnt crit % increase broken atm? and didnt they lower zoren's crit damage and base damage by a load?add the "sometimes charge when pressing e" bug kinda makes my dual zorens ... lame. I'm critting and killing just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperTofu Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Still confused as to whether or not furax has the same charge damage as dual heat ffffffffffffffff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WupwupTCR Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Few things. One, calm the balls down with bumping. Your topic isn't going to be buried in a few short hours holy crap. Two, if you're going to ask specific questions for your personal interest leave it in the Players Helping Players section, this topic isn't suitable for actual discussion since you're.. just asking specific questions about how some weapons work. Third, for the love of god try not to doublepost. OT: To answer scatted questions. @xenapan They didn't change the Zorens at all, to my knowledge. Look at the 7.X Weapon Rebalancing thread in Updates. You're probably just not used to the actual base/crit rate/damage since we don't have the upgrade nodes anymore. And the bug was apparently fixed with mashing E and having a charge attack instead. @WhiteCopain The Heats are basically like the Dual Skanas but better in every way. Seems sort of fitting since you can straight up buy the Skanas and have to craft the Heatswords. @Fapgasmic Wiki is correct, both have the same charge damage. You may think otherwise because the Furax has innate armor piercing damage, so they're super good against the Grineer. Actually, take this list instead. DHS vs Furax +Charge Attack hits up to 3 at once +Blade damage bonus against Infested (3x base+charge damage) +Charge attack hits roughly 150 degree cone in front of you +Better reach -No Armor Piercing -Slower charge rate -Slower swing speed/fire rate Furax vs DHS +Highest DPS in game +Quick strikes, charged or not +Really good charge damage/speed +Innate armor piercing +Useful Jump attack, good AoE (+Punch things into pieces) -Super short range, you need to be practically running into your enemies straight on to land hits -Not as good against standard Infested/Corpus. Still wrecks Ancients though. Also, the Furax are regarded in-game as two-handed but mechanically work as one-handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperTofu Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Don't charge attacks ignore armor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WupwupTCR Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) No. It ignores the special armor the Ancients have but not the standard armor akin to Grineer. And it wouldn't hurt to acknowledge that you should start future topics similar to this in the proper section. Edited March 24, 2013 by WupwupTCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperTofu Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 Sorry 'bout that, just wanted a faster response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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