Long: A Rant About The Alert System And Possibility For Rewards Altered

[WARGAMES]

This will be nothing more than a text wall since I feel like ranking my boltor today, but this is about ways to get out of the waiting-for-the-alert-I-want nonsense and make it more active and even adventurous. Nobody needs to read it but why not leave it here in case anybody is bored and it coincides with their ideas and hence forth?

Rant start:

 

 

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:25:47] <Corrosion> The only point I will agree with in all the complaint threads

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:25:51] <Corrosion> is the alert system needs help

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:02] <Corrosion> as of now it discourages playing the game in favour of watching a twitter feed

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:06] <Corrosion> What I would do

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:23] <Corrosion> every ... "Round" played gives x% chance of gneerating an alert accessable to you

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:36] <Corrosion> that alert is tuned to the level of the level that generated it

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:42] <Corrosion> and has random rewards appropriate

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:48] <Corrosion> and ? marks random as well

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:26:55] <Corrosion> they happen/dont happen/ whatever

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:27:13] <Corrosion> the numbers themselves will need to be adjusted to allow players to readilly acheive a similar rate of alerts we have now

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:27:43] <Corrosion> but allow heavy players to get a few more (not a stright %, maybe a % chance that decays the more alerts you get so you cant get 30+ alerts in a long play session)

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:27:49] <Corrosion> it initial % = 30%

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:27:54] <Corrosion> each alert decays it by 3%

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:27:59] <Corrosion> down to a minimum 5-10%

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:07] <Corrosion> get a reasonable amount of alerts for a modest playtime

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:18] <@WARGAMES> alert missions should change the reward system to only being credits and you have to find out if an item is in it, artifact or blueprint

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:20] <Corrosion> but more playtime will generate a few more alerts then you would have gained watchinga  twitter feed

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:27] <@WARGAMES> so it'd encourage looking all over the mission

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:30] <Corrosion> that would be cool actually

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:35] <Corrosion> have the same alert generation

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:40] <@WARGAMES> by then they could do similar with all missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:48] <Corrosion> show the ? mark but you have to hunt it down?

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:57] <@WARGAMES> that wa it's not cold potato cold potato cold potato cold potato cold potato cold potato cold potato cold potato  ? HOT POTATO

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:28:58] <Corrosion> or no ? mark but explore everywhere

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:00] <Corrosion> in case they are there

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:05] <Corrosion> which one war?

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:07] <@WARGAMES> yes that, no ? marks

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:16] <@WARGAMES> I meant in how everybody iugnores alerts

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:18] <Corrosion> ok so ? mark but when there is a ? mark you have to search

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:24] <Corrosion> i see

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:34] <Corrosion> so how about both that and the alert generation system i typed up?

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:35] <@WARGAMES> I actually meant none entirely

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:40] <Corrosion> that works too

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:45] <@WARGAMES> because it really

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:45] <Corrosion> but what about the alert gneeration?

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:46] <@WARGAMES> really

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:50] <@WARGAMES> just makes people wait for that

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:53] <Corrosion> you get alerts by playing

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:55] <Corrosion> not by waiting

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:57] <Corrosion> instead of how it is now

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:29:58] <@WARGAMES> actually yes

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:01] <Corrosion> at least id hope its a neat idea

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:05] <@WARGAMES> by playing and a combination of waiting

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:21] <Corrosion> one other bit 

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:25] <Corrosion> in the "generated" alerts

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:30] <Corrosion> the only people who can follow you in

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:35] <Corrosion> arte the people who were in the mission that genreated it

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:44] <Corrosion> to prevent "HEY GUISE I GOT ALERT JOIN ME" IN CHAT

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:30:51] <Corrosion> basically have it like a popup window

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:10] <Corrosion> "Intelligence retreived during missio - Go to planet x area y to retrive nekkid nick"

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:11] <@WARGAMES> "you can now do x"? so there for it's like a bonus mission?

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:24] <@WARGAMES> that could work

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:25] <Corrosion> and tha tpop up shows up to all players in that mission

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:30] <Corrosion> so they can do a "bonus round" of sorts

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:34] <@WARGAMES> but I'd still keep the chanc eof over-time randoms of course

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:39] <Corrosion> of course

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:31:54] <Corrosion> and the alert % decay only happens when its GENERATED not taken or completed

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:00] <@WARGAMES> problem would be if x missions and spoammuing the fastest ones down

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:03] <Corrosion> otherwise people wil be encouraged to skip non item alerts

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:16] <Corrosion> that would be a problem but

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:22] <Corrosion> in the end all the missions can be rushed

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:25] <Corrosion> in a similar timeframe

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:32] <Corrosion> the higher level enemies may slow you down a little

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:37] <Corrosion> but when loki running not much

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:43] <Corrosion> so would need something there

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:32:59] <Corrosion> maybe have higher level areas give better chances at item drops along with the higher credit rewards

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:33:05] <Corrosion> since those are a bit harder to rush

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:33:08] <Corrosion> and a bit longer

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:33:15] <Corrosion> so theres a tradeoff maybe

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:33:22] <Corrosion> ... honestly i dunno how to go about that

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:33:26] <Corrosion> but i guess my idea would be a neat start

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:33:58] <@WARGAMES> it could work, but it'd likely have to balance with warframe and weapon ranks + mastery rank and be regional based, where lower regions are mostly in that and below

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:08] <Corrosion> yup

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:09] <@WARGAMES> while higher are below and up

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:15] <Corrosion> all technical stuff that we have no idea how to balance

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:19] <Corrosion> honestly

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:28] <@WARGAMES> there for allowing new people to get stuff easier at first but veterans still having to work for it

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:33] <Corrosion> the current alert system was probably intended and still IS in the future

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:36] <Corrosion> to be like

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:38] <Corrosion> CALLING ALL TENNO

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:41] <Corrosion> GIANT MOA APPEARS

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:45] <Corrosion> ALL MUST FIGHT

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:51] <Corrosion> incoming like 12-20 player raid instances

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:34:57] <Corrosion> instead of

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:02] <Corrosion> HEY GUISE HERS A MISSION

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:04] <Corrosion> HURRR

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:17] <Corrosion> "Oh great ANOTHER mission, woo, nothing special"

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:17] <@WARGAMES> plus iut could lead to soem unique missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:22] <Corrosion> ^^^^^

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:22] <@WARGAMES> uncovering them and such

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:31] <Corrosion> yes that is honestly what i think the alert system that is now will become

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:38] <Corrosion> they will hopefully remake the current

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:44] <Corrosion> and bring back the old in some form like that

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:48] <Corrosion> with special missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:51] <Corrosion> unique areas

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:53] <@WARGAMES> that wa they could add even MORE goodies so it was't a game of plat and market blueprints

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:55] <Corrosion> specail raid bosses and the like

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:35:58] <Corrosion> YES

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:04] <Corrosion> special raid goodies and the like

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:06] <@WARGAMES> so some weapons that are uber in forms would have a place of rarity

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:10] <Corrosion> and spawn a decent number a day BUT

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:15] <Corrosion> players can only take on like 1 a day

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:18] <Corrosion> or x number a day

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:27] <Corrosion> so everyone gets a chance at doing some since they happen regularly enough

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:28] <@WARGAMES> BUT at the same time, new player? going with vets? oen guy got it? HEY GUYS COME LOOT THIS

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:31] <@WARGAMES> everybody gets it

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:33] <Corrosion> but nobody gets an advantage

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:50] <Corrosion> nono it would be uhhhh

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:36:52] <Corrosion> what was it

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:07] <Corrosion> ok basically it uses the currnet alert system to regularly spawn through the day special missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:10] <Corrosion> unique missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:16] <Corrosion> players can join up, x number of time sa day

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:29] <Corrosion> so everyone gets a chance at doing them

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:31] <Corrosion> BUT

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:40] <Corrosion> nobody gets a real advantage since everyone can only do like

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:43] <Corrosion> 1-2 a day

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:49] <Corrosion> or however many

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:51] <@WARGAMES> of the unique one you mean

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:37:57] <Corrosion> yes the raid unique one

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:08] <Corrosion> and the reworked alert generation system i first mentioned

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:10] <Corrosion> would be aloing side it

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:16] <Corrosion> to encourage playing thorugh regular levels and stuff

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:24] <Corrosion> so two types of "alert" systems

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:39] <Corrosion> one is gerneated byplaying, others are special missions popping up throug the day but limited number of entries

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:40] <@WARGAMES> oh oh oh you know what else?

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:51] <@WARGAMES> tjeu could have some temporary weapons in them at times too

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:52] <Corrosion> while the first is technically unlimited by decays as you get them (this resets every 24h)

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:53] <@WARGAMES> prototypes

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:56] <Corrosion> YESSSSSS

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:38:59] <Deviantis> 5800 cred alert

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:00] <Deviantis> Just posted

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:07] <Corrosion> the prototypes would be PERFECt

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:21] <@WARGAMES> pick it up and use it, uses either special ammo and switches back or same type

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:26] <Corrosion> get raid gun, shoot rainbows, lasts x number of missions of x hours whichever comes first

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:30] <Deviantis> Or blows up in a day

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:31] <Corrosion> or special mods

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:33] <Deviantis> Like BLR

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:36] <Corrosion> eh

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:37] <@WARGAMES> ....maybe

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:44] <Corrosion> id rather have blows up in x days/# of missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:45] <Deviantis> I HAVE AN LMG

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:46] <Corrosion> so it cant be abused

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:48] <Deviantis> ....aww it broke

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:39:58] <Corrosion> say you get a gun that shoots mini nukes sure you can destory a mission fast

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:04] <Corrosion> but you cant do it for 24 straight hours

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:10] <Corrosion> you get 24 hours or x# of missions

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:12] <Corrosion> something

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:14] <Corrosion> whatever

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:17] <Corrosion> but hats details

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:26] <Corrosion> but yeah, id love to see those two alerts side by side

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:31] <@WARGAMES> outa be ammo bound

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:37] <Corrosion> thats gud actually

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:42] <Corrosion> like heavy weapons in ME3

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:45] <@WARGAMES> or "hazardous"

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:49] <Corrosion> you carry them with you in a special ammo slot

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:53] <@WARGAMES> where it could break and damage you AND your teammate

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:54] <@WARGAMES> s

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:55] <Corrosion> but you get x rounds per mission

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:40:57] <Corrosion> AND

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:01] <Corrosion> you get only x rounds total

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:05] <Corrosion> so mini nuke, you get 5 rounds

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:08] <Corrosion> can tkae 1 into a mission

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:12] <@WARGAMES> hmmm no I don't think x per mission would work

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:13] <Corrosion> or something thats just an example

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:17] <Corrosion> nono the x per mission

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:24] <Corrosion> is just to stop abusing an iwin gun for a har dmission

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:32] <@WARGAMES> I think it'd need you can get x and y amount when you find it,  maybe find extra ammo ON that mission it's on

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:32] <Corrosion> you have the same number of total "shots" but

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:41] <Corrosion> can only take a limited # into a missoin

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:41] <@WARGAMES> then you use it up or it expires after x time

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:46] <Corrosion> ehhh

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:53] <Corrosion> then someone gets an i win gun, saves ammo

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:41:57] <Corrosion> takes all of it into super player raid

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:02] <Corrosion> no fun for anyone else

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:13] <Corrosion> o wait expires

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:15] <Corrosion> i seee

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:21] <@WARGAMES> well I mean so they garanteed will run out of ammo

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:22] <@WARGAMES> want to us eit

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:26] <@WARGAMES> and so forth

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:31] <Corrosion> hmm

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:41] <Corrosion> so either can take all the ammo you want sine it expirexs after x time

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:49] <Corrosion> ort have ammo not expire but limited nyumber of uses in ONE mission

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:52] <Corrosion> not sure which

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:42:58] <@WARGAMES> I would sa all the ammo you collect when you get it/find during it

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:06] <@WARGAMES> so it really is temporary

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:17] <@WARGAMES> but so you can't keep it handy for days

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:22] <Corrosion> i see

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:28] <@WARGAMES> maybe 12-24 hours or x amount of hours

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:29] <Corrosion> but itjust shows i guess

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:32] <Corrosion> theres huge potental here

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:36] <@WARGAMES> then with your alert systems

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:39] <Corrosion> DE just needs to get to it one day

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:46] <@WARGAMES> you could have tons of protype S#&$ to toy with

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:51] <Corrosion> you can get your artuifacts and bps and stuff over time too

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:43:55] <Corrosion> but you have to PLAY to get htem

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:09] <Corrosion> and the super player raids offers another way to get them

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:13] <@WARGAMES> oh imagine this

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:14] <Corrosion> AND get shiny prototype weapons

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:41] <@WARGAMES> grineer if they kill you, one may run over and create a copy of your weapon/s depending on what type he copied

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:51] <@WARGAMES> so if you die and have this awesome gun

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:56] <@WARGAMES> you better kill him

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:44:59] <Corrosion> haha

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:02] <Corrosion> thats mean but funny

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:05] <@WARGAMES> YES

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:06] <Corrosion> but thats in the future

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:11] <Corrosion> we will see what happens

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:14] <Corrosion> its still... beta

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:17] <Corrosion> i guess

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:21] <@WARGAMES> imagine if infested instead of killing you

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:26] <Corrosion> ifest YOU

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:28] <Corrosion> infest*

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:29] <@WARGAMES> would dispose of their body and use YOUR'S

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:35] <Corrosion> haha

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:42] <Corrosion> but yeah, in all honesty

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:48] <Corrosion> with the idaes we just had in here

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:48] <@WARGAMES> thus they would kill your teammate sunless they kill and try to revive you, 

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:54] <Corrosion> there is no way DE wants the alert system as is now

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:56] <Corrosion> its too easy

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:45:58] <Corrosion> too stupid

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:00] <Corrosion> its a placeholder

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:04] <Corrosion> for a great future

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:11] <@WARGAMES> imagine a disrupter rhino

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:12] <Corrosion> im sure someone there had ideas like ours too

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:29] <Corrosion> and the current alert system is just a way for us to get shiny things until they bring its full potental out

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:37] <Corrosion> its just... it feels like a placeholder

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:42] <@WARGAMES> it could be

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:45] <Corrosion> for the real thing that will  be coming

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:47] <Corrosion> its just

15[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:53] <@WARGAMES> unless they pull S#&$ over on people

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:46:55] <Corrosion> too easy/simple/has so much potental the way it is now

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:47:04] <Corrosion> i find it hard to see them leaving it like it is

 

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:53:38] <Deviantis> There's a lot of potential in a lot of games

[May Wednesday 01/2013 - 16:53:42] <Deviantis> It just hardly ever gets realized

 

Rant End.

[hakma1]

You weren't joking about a text wall. But i agree with you this system would make the player base want to play more and yearn more for better rewards thus giving us, the player base, a reason to play more often instead of sitting and waiting for the twitter feed to poop out the galive or something (yes I'm really mad that i didn't get a chance to get it).

Edited May 1, 2013 by hakma1

[Slorch]

SO MUCH TEXT.... but really I do think they need to improve the alert system

[Warmonger1606]

they gave us the wrong time for the glaive

[Corrosion]

... Damnit WAR.  You really did didn't you.

[Warmonger1606]

What did i do

[griever102]

they gave us the wrong time for the glaive

"they".

 

It's a piece of coding that generates the alerts RANDOMLY not people.

[Warmonger1606]

Wow that sucks