KogSothoth

April 11, 2015

Stalker would be absolutely fantastic; it would draw in lots of players who aren't as much of a fan as simple team vs team on equal footing.

If Domination would be Interception, I'd think that King of the Hill (1 control zone that moves around the map) would use Excavation logic, with the hill being one of the excavators.

Dunno how well a CS-esque bomb planting mode would go with the extremely fast-paced speed of current matches.

I had another idea, something rather simple: Nullifier Modes. Pretty much, they'd be normal modes except there'd be absolutely no energy; no powers and no channeling, just your primary, secondary, melee, and aim. Obviously people might say that Warframe NEEDS powers, but it wouldn't override the normal PVP, so if people wanted to play it, they could, and if they didn't want to, they wouldn't have to.

April 10, 2015

You understand that energy orb spawns on maps occupy the same role as power weapons in determining map flow, right? Instead of having weapon pickups, you grab ammo (energy) for the power weapon you equipped before the match (warframe). That's why energy is placed in awkward or exposed areas, such as the open lane down the middle of the snow map, or the blind niche in the hallway on the Void map. It forces you to make the judgement call on whether or not it's safe to grab it (which is also dependent on your skill at mobility). The energy in front of the flag building on the indoor Corpus map is an interesting tactical choice, too. Taking it and smoothly entering the flag building means coming in from an angle near the centre line if you don't want to have to turn around, but if you're entering the area from the sides (which is encouraged by the door positions), you have to make the choice between grabbing the exposed energy, grabbing the flag, or just passing through the safer cover of the building.

These are all choices of tactical mobility, so it's logical that those with the best ability to maneuver will usually get the most advantage out of the situation. There's nothing wrong with coptering dominating energy and map control; they're going faster than you, so it's to be expected. After all, those players are constantly looking for ways to shave time off of their routes, while also engaging in combat and honing their aim and energy management. How is that not skilful?

Really? Personally I've never veered away from energy spawns. With the ease of movement I find the only thing going through my mind when looking towards an energy spawn is, "Is there an energy orb there?" If the answer is yes, I go to it and grab it and that's that; even then I never have a struggle getting away because of--again--the ease and safety of coptering.

And if energy was removed, there'd still be the health spawns, which are quite important as they are now, and the ammo spawns; both of which more skilled players would still be able to control and use to their advantage.

The general reasoning for the idea of having energy removed from the map and connected to kills is to make energy less abundant and more of a risk to attain (which I see you might not understand, seeing as in your experience getting energy as-is is already quite the risk) pushing to make engagements more reliant and focused on primaries, secondaries and melee, which, in turn, are more reliant on aim and skill than most powers are. Generally: less power spam and a more leveled playing field.

So like destiny?

I like it, it was one of the few things that bungie did right

Yes, like Destiny's abilities / Call of Duty's Point Streaks.

No, there's already an abundance of energy, players drop energy orbs on death (if they had energy). People rely on skills to get the upper hands, no need to give or that upper hand for free. From personal experience, once on a killing spree roll, I start to dominate energy spawns because the dead don't take no energy. This gives me huge advantages in successive encounters. You're suggestion makes it easier which isn't good imo. Actually I think your suggestion is flat out selfish. You want to kill 3 people with a ult and have enough energy to do it again instantly...

Forgot to put this in the main post, so I'll make it clear: you'd have to get kills/assists with your weapons in order to gain energy. Power kills would not reward energy; that would just be ridiculous.

This would further push snowballing, the current system is better than what you are suggesting in such regard

I think you're basing this on thinking power kills would reward energy, so I'll say it again: power kills would not reward energy. Thus, there really wouldn't be any snowballing; the only time one team would dominate is when they're simply better.

April 9, 2015

1) It would make the game snowbally, not balanced. As soon as one team had the upper hand for a few kills the other team is now at a disadvantage because of power availability. Then when they're killed... by powers... they drop more power orbs for the enemy to use... the enemy spawns and they're at a disadvantage again...

2) When I say fix the problem, it's not really an argument to come back and say it's still a problem. If you can still just copter over there and back then it's not fixed. You need to adjust the map so it's not that simple. There are plenty of places in this game you can't copter to. Vertical areas, long wall runs over pits, stuff like that.

The idea would be that kills with powers would not give out energy; as that would be a vicious cycle like you mentioned.

April 9, 2015

I kinda like this idea. It actually reinforces skillful play and eliminates energy drought across the map. Of course, I think that kills that come from abilities shouldn't give you energy (or at least a reduced amount) because if you manage to kill all 4 enemies with your ultimate ability you'd get a lot of energy back.

Perhaps still have some energy orb spots laying around? Maybe add in hacking to dispense them???? Just throwing out ideas here

Oh yes, definitely; kills gotten by using energy would not reward energy. (Maybe even for channeling--which, btw I hate in PvP--so it gets a disadvantage?)

Wouldn't that just turn powers into killstreak rewards? :/

If people can just hang out on top of energy sources or copter to and from the path the enemy takes for the objective, then lets just call it what it is: a map design flaw. They need to rebalance that directly. Expand the map to put the energy farther from the path, or alter the terrain so people can't easily copter to/from in half a second.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for. It rewards players for taking a more active and useful role within the matches, rather than having them coptering around in the background collecting enough energy until they can ult.

Also, its a much simpler solution than having to expand out every map and make sure each individual one works.

so spawn kill get more adv.

If a team is spawn killing, they're more than likely already hoarding the energy spawns, so there's really not that much of a difference. In fact, with a reasonable amount of energy per kill (10 energy?) it would actually be less effective than simply taking the energy spawns.

And spawn killing is entirely its own problem.

April 9, 2015

This is an idea I've had for a bit, and I still don't know if it would work, but I definitely thought it'd be worth bringing up here. (Also, hopefully this hasn't already been posted D:)

As the title says, the idea is that energy would first be removed from every map; then, players would need to get kills, assists, and captures/objective completions to gain small amounts of energy. Note: kills and assists would only give energy when achieved WITHOUT powers, meaning you have to use your Primary, Secondary or Melee.

What does this do?

1) Energy will no longer fluctuate with what map you're on.

2) Coptering, a highly controversial topic, will lose its huge advantage of hoarding energy spots, YET it will completely retain its useability.

3) The frequency of powers (namely, ultimates) will be reduced, as players are forced to go into direct combat in order to get more energy, which also puts them at risk for losing what they have, meaning they may be more likely to use lower cost powers.

Thoughts?

March 14, 2015

I still strongly feel like AFK players shouldn't be determined entirely by the game; once the game thinks someone is AFK, it should then ask the other players if they wish to kick them.

The out-of-the-blue system it currently uses is constantly hurting people when it shouldn't.

February 5, 2015

Shoot that big tendril from around where you are (through a hole in the window) and it'll open up the vent below it. Then enter the vent from it's entrance which is down the hall, to your right.

December 8, 2014

Do you really think I’d say that!?