LegendXCarisso
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Grustrag 3.
Oh nice. I'm also pleased to report that I believe the clipping issues have been fixed... ESPECIALLY the legs.
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Exactly. Curiously enough though, and rather off-topic.... but where is that sigil from?
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The clipping issue is linked to the stance you use for you'r warframe.
That is the issue.
I hate to say it, but you're incorrect. As you can clearly see, he's wielding his blades, which cancels all stances. Yet, there is the glitch still. It matters not what pose he's in, the damn armors are off-kilter. Edo shows this as well, by being slightly to the left, and inward. One won't notice this to the naked eye due to how thick that cosmetic's model really is, but it's there.. you can tell if you turn the Excalibur model around.
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Glad I'm not the only one with this issue. It NEEDS to be fixed, as it's irritating as all hell. They finally added the ability to swap helmets, but still couldn't fix the Targis armor? To be fair though... a lot of the other armors have this problem as well, including Edo.
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I love the cosmetic changes, especially now that Proto owners can finally use different helmets, but... for the love of all that is holy, can we PLEASE, finally get a fix for the glaring issue that's been covered by many people, many patches ago? I've circled the problem in red squares.
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I find it funny how people still can't spell Targis Prime.
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On a sidenote, Proto Glaive skin works with every Throw Weapon to my knowledge.
So... did you come to give me spelling lessons? Or do you have anything interesting to say about the subject you've quoted? >_>
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I find it funny how after many complaints later, DE still refuses to fix this bug with the Tigris Prime, and Excalibur Proto...
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I don't know... but it feels like they whacked his damage too. For example... I went to a Phobos mission with my Draco build.... it oddly enough took TWO uses of his ultimate to kill enemies. Was his damage nerfed into the ground along with the LoS stuff?
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Y'see; THIS is why I refrain from coptering all over the place. Poor Chroma... yeesh.
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...Huh. Especially on Ember though; how would that even be physically possible? Those things have GOT to be pretty heavy, no? Not only that, but they're projectile weapons.
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Hmm... still no U16 yet. It's 3:45pm CDT. Why do we have no update? Where is update?
So to represent my case.... the part of DE shall be played by Brian Griffin. The part of myself/community shall be played by Stewie Griffin. The part of U16 shall be played by the word "money". The part of DE's blood, sweat, and tears shall be played by Orange Juice.
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Obviously something you yourself don't understand, as your post was vile before it was edited.
It was edited due to misspellings .Nothing changed. Do try again to flame this thread.
i think they will prime what is most used by community to increase chances of selling it, soo yeh they dont care i given up on ash prime a long time ago :D
Yeah.... Ash would be a lovely piece to have among the primes. Here's hoping he will be next on the list.
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you cry toxic behavior, when your original post comes off quiet toxic as it is. " WE WILL NEVER HAVE VOLT PRIME" well thats just blatant disrespect to a frame thats been a starter multiple times, let alone been one of the first in game
No, that's just an opinion. Negative opinion and toxicity are two different things. Get it right.
You give a response like this and everybody else is supposedly the toxic ones? Okay then.
See above.
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Wow. Too many toxic little kids been posting in my thread since I slept. Can you honestly BLAME a person when they say "CHAINS OF DESTRUCTION"? How in the nine is this related to Volt at ALL? Valkyr is the embodiment of destruction. Chaining with lightning doesn't cut it either. You'd think the title would have been called... oh, I dunno, "Clash of Thunder" or something?
You can all go home now... and perhaps gain some intellect on what a troll actually IS. Did you EVER consider perhaps someone was misinformed? Hmm? Maybe not EVERYONE watched TennoLive? Guess that didn't pass through your all's little brains, did it?
I'm contacting a dev to have this thread removed. Seriously, the toxicity of the community lately is appalling, and honestly.... I'm ashamed to having seen it drop this far.
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...Seriously. Anybody who said "DE follows a Male/Male, Female/Female, Male/Male pattern"... well, here's your proof they don't care. Volt Prime shall never exist. Hats off to ya..... just my two cents.... but in reality, this is rather alarming. I want to know what others think of this sudden change of pace. Do you see a good future, or a cashy-grabby one... or plain bad?
Discuss. Lemme know what you all think. I need a general consensus before I continue further.
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How about the return of nVidia PhysX to start with?
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Hey OP, I see what you're arguing about. I sympathize, I really do... no, not really. I also see a load of pretentiousness when you claim to speak for the founders with lots of bold faced underlined flourishes (that only serves to demean your case and makes you look desperate).
Funny, it appears I'm a founder and you're not. That doesn't make you any lesser than me, but when you whine and argue over minutiae like PhysX and plastic looking gold prime parts on accessories a minority of players own, then you sure as hell don't speak for this founder.
Warframe is unique because of the original dystopian setting, and the artistic style of the frames themselves and the enemies they fight. Particle effects are a very tiny part of the presentation. The devs are not punishing anyone with the changes they made to them. In fact, I think the game as whole looks better than ever.
Please drop this failthread and move on to something positive, OP. The consoles are not to blame, and the best is yet to come for Warframe.
-sigh- ....Another one. Knee-jerks... completely misses the point. Let me be perfectly clear;
I'm speaking for the PC community. Founders happen to be among this list as the first players of Warframe. I have to highlight my points because people seem to skim it, knee-jerk, and speak without thinking, or understanding what I, the OP was stating. If anything, it only makes my points more clear, not desperate.
Yeah.. Like I said, there was reasons I was unable to become one, but that is to my own discretion. While we're on the subject... the prime accessories was just an example. I was also speaking about the fact how gold trimmings and the like are being melded in with the simple color selections. Targis prime is just a good example of this, is all. It also happens on many primed weapons, which a "majority" of players indeed DO own. To me, removing the "gold" on "Prime" things, is very much like removing the engine out of a Ferrari, and replacing it with the engine of an Isetta. Barring the impossibility of this example, its principle is what I'm defining here. Now you've got this gorgeous-looking car, but it moves at a top-speed of around 10 - 30mph at most. Those speeds do not scream "Ferrari", it screams.. "...Um, car with a really ugly engine on-board". Same with the prime pieces. It's still called "Prime-soandso", but it doesn't look like a Prime piece/weapon. It's that feeling when you worked really hard to find those blueprints to build it, only to find they're just stat-based changes... but nothing more. That to me, is a VERY, big deal.
Same with PhysX. It gives the feeling that you're a walking suit of energy and power, running like a madman, hacking, slashing, and then... that feeling when you Rhino Stomp, and you see the particles floating, and dancing around your foes as they're suspended in the air, before violently being dropped by gravity, the particles going with them. Then they get blinded, before being viciously impaled to the floor by disembodied swords, particles marking their graves as if their souls left their bodies in a single instant. You knew you killed them all, because you could visually SEE it. That to me, again, is a VERY, big deal.
That dystopian setting? PhysX was a part of that. It's been displayed in their many cinematic trailers. It showed their ninja-like styles, and how they flowed like water/air. The graphics? The gameplay? Both work hand-in-hand to deliver the experience... the "uniqueness" that is Warframe.
If that to you, is a "fail"..... then I have nothing more to say to you, because.... you'll never understand.
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1. No I did read it... go back to the first Page, press F3 and find every instance of the word console. Almost every one is you complainign about them = Elitism.
2. I don't 'jest'. You can see me as a troll all you want, I just disagree with you. I came here to read your post and I saw a whole lot of blaming consoles for things that have nothing to do with consoles. That is what an elitist who thinks he's better because he's on PC does. I won't explain it again.
3. Uhh are you dumb or what...you have a daily login wheel that gives 75% discounts on platinum at any given time, PC only. Do you even play this game?
4. Let me copy and paste for you then:
"so you could put some sort of particle system in place for your Console community"
sounds like some elitism and blaming going on there to me.
1: Ah. So you only see the word "console", and a "negative argument", and immediately think: "OH! This guy must be an elitist! FLAME!!" Alright.
2: Let me get a definition of "Elitist" for you:
"a person who believes that a system or society should be ruled or dominated by an elite."
Essentially, this would imply that I said "Consoles are stupid./PC is the Master Race/Anyone who games on consoles are retards/etc." You see however, I said none of these things. I even went on to say how well this particle system helps consoles out, actually. HOWEVER, I ALSO stated "This punishes PC users because they are the ones who go DE's foot through the door, and there is no reason to remove PhysX from us." My exact quotes:
"punishing your founders, who gave you money when you were in your infancy days, to help this game prosper. You know who else gets punished for these actions? The massive of the PC community and its players who made it possible to get this game multi-platform."
3: Let me ask you something. What's a better deal to you? Spending $10 when Plat is at base price, or spending $100 when Plat is at around 50% -75% off? Furthermore, how often do you ever see that 75% bonus anyway? I can assure you, not very often... once per-month if you're lucky.
4: So you only copied PART of that text. Figures. Knee-jerk reaction, as stated.
"just so you could put some sort of particle system in place for your Console community, and spoon-fed it to us, the PC community and its users as well, without even asking us if we wanted this! You didn't even ask us if we perhaps wanted both to co-exist!"
See what I did there? If co-existence makes me an elitist, then I'm completely stumped.... because it sounds to me like I'm saying that Both systems could work together!!! Particle 2.0 for consoles and AMD PC users, and PhysX features for the rest of the PC community.
Honestly Iagrue, I don't know what to say to you. If all you want to do is start problems in my thread, leave it. If you have anything useful to say, then say it... but don't quote me out of context, and name-call. It's useless, and doesn't make any points in this thread, than pointless arguing.
the figures don't really matter.
overall game players: pc, ps4, xbox
only pc can use physx
pc: nvidia, ati
only nvidia can use physx
5 different categories of players, of which only one can use that effect.
i don't know what the numbers of nvidia pc players are in comparison to the rest of the overall bulk, but it really doesn't matter because as a developer it isn't worth spending the time and effort to concentrate on it to the exclusion of everybody else.
I think you're missing the point. There was NOTHING to change. It worked just fine before Particle 2.0, and it COULD have worked just fine post 2.0. Again, "When your MMO has been on PC for 1-2 years prior, and you bring it to console, why should any PC-key features change?"
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1. Sound like an elitsit to me... all I've read is "wah wah wah, console this, console that, muh PhysX"
2. You don't have to say everything, your attitude says it for you. You are clearly an elitist and you are acting superior like playing on PC makes you a God, clearly founders and other PC players are not on your side... I wonder why, maybe its the elitism and acting like you're owed something..
3. It was out a year before the PS4 version, exactly 1 year. It's not impossible to make a guess my friend. We never had platinum discounts, DE loses 75% of their profit to you guys all the time. I'd find it hard to believe consoles and PC aren't close to even in contributions - and regardless, what makes YOUR contributions better than mine exactly?
4. You actually started the console war with this whole topic and blaming consoles for things.... A simple re-read of your post will show you what a fool you are.
Lastly its not a key feature, did you ever think it wasn't worth keeping or developing Particle Effects anymore if only 1/10 of the player base including PC players can use it.
1: Afraid you didn't read anything I had to say, just to attempt to troll a response.
2: Oh, so caring for a game I've spent money on, actively enjoyed, and loved... makes me an elitist? So apparently I'm a god? Surely, you jest. Also.... I feel it will take a ton more than 10+ users to count as a "consensus" here, when I clearly have posters in other threads stating the polar opposite of the ones in MY thread. So far, only the ones who are fine with these changes seem to post here.... not those who are not. Wait awhile, and see if anything changes.
3: So..... where did you come up with the magical number of 75%? Way I see it... people are more inclined to buy Plat during these sales, so.. where's your numbers?
4: I started nothing. You assumed. Good day, sir.
^ this.
it's pretty, hooray...
doesn't really make much different in the long-run if it exists or not.
Once again, he makes the mistake of spouting figures without actual numbers to back it up. I can pretty much tell you there's definitely a LOT more than just the 1/10th he figures who took advantage of it. But again, without numbers the argument is pointless.
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physx is a graphical improvement, all happy-shiny movey pretty things. yay!
that plays exactly 0 in my overall expectations about warframe.
personally, i'm about disgusted with gaming in general from the perspective of "but look at our incredible graphics!"
that worked great up through the mid-to-late 00's, because of where they came from. (80's, 90's -- graphics were awful)
but gameplay has suffered INCREDIBLY since the 90's and 00's as companies have spent more and more effort on "the pretty shinies" instead of actually, ya know, making a FUN GAME.
warframe is one of the very few that actually tries to make a fun, engaging game. and while i don't think your grievances should be ignored, i do think you might want to look at this from a larger perspective than, "it doesn't look as good!"
I DO look at it from the broad prospective. PhysX is a game changer I feel. It's not about the shinies; it's about the principle. Let me try stating this again:
Lowering PC users to the lowest common denominator to promote console sales is a terrible, and tactless tactic when the founders and early players ON PC were how DE got their foot through the door IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
PhysX shows you without a doubt your power has gone off as it should. It shows "Woah. That guy is doing something that can HURT me. Maybe it'd be a GOOD IDEA to not waltz on over there." It shows "Those guys are actually affected by my ability/weapon, and I can focus on another target, or get out of dodge." It provided quite a lot of practical uses. Visual aids are very much a thing. To remove these for these dumbed-down, and IMHO, trashy-looking particle system.... particles.
Easy solution, don't play.
If you aren't annoyed yet, read on.
Considering parts which do matter, this little change is of no matter ...
This is still the same game, it's just growing out and around itself.
And what right do you have to talk about founders if you are not one, as I assume by your forum name not having founder badge, I am sorry if this is your second account or whatever...
Yes, ok PhysX was cool to have, the change is not as awesome, but for me it still works.
What Prime Gold color? - I am all for the ability to recolor them, and even not recolored they still look Prime Gold to me ...
Essentially what are you complaining about? Do you not enjoy the game now, because it may be less blingy and less particly?
This game is awesome, with all the new stuff coming, and DE expanding the game, there are points I do not agree, but I suck it up.
Otherwise try SweetFX maybe it will bling up your game back to you, or get on PS4 and play Destiny idk, I hear it's essentially alike Warframe ...
Oh I'm sorry. I wasn't aware I had to be a founder to say anything On behalf of the PC community, and its founders. My reasons for not being a founder are a very long story, but if you're so inclined as to know why, please. By all means, ask me again.... but believe me, if I had gotten the chance to, I would have.
Also, your attitude sucks. Cut the vitriol. Now then.... it HAS changed. DRASTICALLY. Perfect example of this is Valkyr.
Now if you have a Valkyr, go play her, and compare her abilities to this video. You'll see they're quite different. No more Hysteria + Warcry combo, in which particles would slowly swirl and rise skywards around her before blowing off. No more particles being shoved by the wave of her paralysis before being scattered all over the floor. No more "melting" infested upon despawn. No more particles swirling and dancing around "blinded" targets... just spitting the new particle 2.0 particles. No more particles being left behind by Penta explosions. No more Jat Kitag particle madness. I could go on, but play awhile. You'll see the difference. It's hideous.
....I also would've hoped this made it perfectly clear I do not play consoles. Destiny is also barebones, and DLC-happy. Trash, in other words.
ON console all of our Trimming and stuff is still Gold. I don't see how that's relevant to console joining the game. I think its more relevant to players from every system constantly complaining about "forced" gold trimming and not being able to change it. Sounds to me if anything like our future console update is going to get "PC-ified" with this crappy changes.
Half of PC players myself included when I was on PC couldn't use particle effects anyway. So again, can't blame consoles for that.
It sounds to me like you're part of a very small and selfish minority of PC players called elitists who believe you are superior due to your machine - you believe somehow contributed to the game more by playing on pc, (which I doubt because I've spent more on Warframe than I did my PS4) and then blames all negative changes you don't like to the game on console players.
(I'm willing to bet, though I could be wrong, that DE at this point has made more money off both Consoles with the fact that we don't get discount spins and such. - They aren't where they are because of PC players. I started at Update 8, this game is leagues better now and its ONLY because consoles signed on and DE was able to rake in more funds.
I bet you screamed and threw a fit with damage 2.0 too when element effects were changed/removed and blamed PS4.
Of the things you said I find it hard to pin either to consoles and would sooner blame the general fanbase OR PC players. But how either affect console is beyond me.
Oh here we go..... YOU kind of people. Lemme just rip your post to shreds;A: Not a so-called big bad "Elitist"B: Never called myself "superior" either.C: Impossible money calculations due to 1-2 year headstart, 2 consoles =/= 2x the money making.D: Actually enjoyed Damage 2.0. Kept gameplay fresh.
Now if you're done with that lame attempt at starting the PC vs Console war.... removing PhysX DOES matter towards the consoles, because how else are you going to get particles on consoles with AMD graphical units? But the bigger question has still been asked as in my opening post:
"Why remove PhysX from PC nVidia users when the systems could simply co-exist together?"
No reason it cannot, and no reason to remove PhysX. It's a tactic called "selling out" and it has been done countless times. "Why do you think PC users get so many console ports these days?" Simple answer; "Because there's more money in selling on consoles first." Next question; "When your MMO has been on PC for 1-2 years prior, and you bring it to console, why should any PC-key features change?"
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So...this is all just about PhysX and PBR?
I'm pretty sure those aren't the only two things that make warframe unique.
PhysX IS one of the things that make Warframe unique. Go back past Warframe's conception, and tell me how many MMOG/MMORPG-type online games have PhysX features, including APEX Turbulence? Landmark does not count as this is a new game, post-Warframe. You'll find there is not that many.... as in, erm... none. Planetside 2 doesn't count either since they deliberately removed PhysX due to their inability to build a game proper using it.
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We are ahead in updates for an obvious reason, and also the very first line indicates that it is indeed one of those threads.
Only thing "obvious" about it is that they prepare them for the "Console Denominator".... so..... yes?
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Tossing pc to the dumpster? That's why we're usually 5 updates ahead of the consoles and have immediate bug fixes?
And are you actually complaining about pbr? The thing we've been asking for for so long so that everything doesn't look like plastic?
I honestly think this is just one of those "back in my day things were better!" Threads that pop up every now and then.
Read the whole thing; not half... then try your call again later. BTW, prime pieces look like plastic NOW. More like leather actually. Also, being 5 updates ahead means nothing when your game is being console-ified.
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I remember playing this game back in the olden days. It was amazing! PhysX particles bouncing off the walls, swirling around like air.... gunfire and blades clashing.... it was amazing. I miss these days. As this is a "feedback" thread, I'm going to state why I feel these days are dead, and why DE is tossing the PC community in the dumpster, so to speak; neglecting them.
First, let me clarify that Your founders, and PC community is who got you to WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. Without their money, support, playtime, recommendations to friends/family, there's no way this game would be as successful as it is today, which means it probably never would have made it to console either... but, ever since you went multi-platform, there have been changes that are less-than-pleasing to many. First of which being the PBR changes. Changing the golden pieces on the Prime weapons, armor, etc... so that they're no longer golden? Now they don't feel special anymore. No uniqueness to the sets. That $50 Accessories pack with the Targis Prime in it? Now this doesn't look so great anymore. It just feels way too plain now.
Secondly (and this is the big button pusher), the nVidia PhysX. You essentially removed PhysX from us, the PC community and its users, just so you could put some sort of particle system in place for your Console community, and spoon-fed it to us, the PC community and its users as well, without even asking us if we wanted this! You didn't even ask us if we perhaps wanted both to co-exist! Nope. It just lost MORE of its uniqueness. That was what this game was sold to us on back in the days of closed/open beta.
I've spoken to many people, and there's many people who feel the way I do on the forums. Warframe's uniqueness is being taken away, one update at a time... punishing your founders, who gave you money when you were in your infancy days, to help this game prosper. You know who else gets punished for these actions? The massive of the PC community and its players who made it possible to get this game multi-platform.
This is essentially a plea, and a request from myself.... and many others:
"Please do NOT take away the things that made Warframe enjoyable for the PC community!"
It'd be perfectly fine if it co-existed for AMD users, but what of the many who play on nVidia cards?
"What of your PC community. Digital Extremes?"
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Same here. Exactly 4925..... how was this overlooked? And when will it be fixed? I basically can't do anything because of it.