Xahn
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1 hour ago, Binket_ said:
As far as I'm aware, that playstyle hasn't exactly changed.
So... if it's strictly the stats holding him back, what is the functional difference?That's the thing, LoS doesn't change Tragedy. You just need to angle yourself right, someone with 3k hours should easily manage that.
Overguard is nothing neccessary for Dante. You (should) and I both know that Shields are plenty enough if push comes to shove.
Pageflight, Wordwarden, Noctua and the usage of Dark/Light Verse is effectively unchanged.... from what I'm getting here, there is nothing here that affects you. You are mad for reasons you cannot comprehend.
After checking your profile? You only got 2k hours, so unless you got more hidden somewhere else? I'm inclined to believe you're flubbing some details.Right, first of all while the playstyle hasnt changed, theoretically. But the reliability has. It feels bad now to cast and get your ultimate blocked by a bump in the terrain. Its no longer useful compared to just shooting them.
Second of all, not everyone wants to rely on shields and shield gating with every damn frame.
Third, dark verse now uses the new broken LoS mechanic where you block your own ability with your frame.
In short, it actually does effect Dante, and how it feels to play him, and thats why i am unhappy. Do not tell me i am mad for reasons i do not comprehend . I know damn well why i am mad.
And finally, you should know that for the better part of the games life span it only counted in mission time in the in game counter. It did not count time spent in the orbiter, relay, dojo, or even loading screens. Kindly never accuse me of lying again.
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8 minutes ago, Binket_ said:
I have to ask, mainly out of morbid curiosity:
What exactly does Dante give that no other Warframe can for ya?Because from the way I see you describing it, it's entirely possible to just like... play Ember for functionally the same kit.
a kit more involved than constantly toggling 2 and occasionally hitting 3 or 4? Ember's rework didn't appeal to me, and i haven't played her in years now. its not about the 'functionality' of his kit. or its power. plenty of frames are room clearers. plenty of frames are incredibly hard to kill, and a good number of them are both. I could play any one of the frames that have been released (except qorvex, he came out while I was burnt out and i never built him). if i wanted to be unkillable i could play revenant, If i wanted to kill every enemy on the map as fast as possible i could whip out saryn. if i wanted to do both I could play kulervo. If i wanted a weapon platform i'd hop on wukong. i've done all of that. i've done it for 3000 hours over the better part of a decade. Dante felt different. he was a breath of fresh air. now he's a stale fart. just another frame, with broken abilities not worth using because guns do it more reliably. just another boring tank to shoot things from. If i wanted that i'd go back to playing inaros, and end up burnt out again in a week and a half.
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1 hour ago, yeahnil said:
I am one of those. I haven't posted at all since I registered registered years ago. But spending plat, forma and reactors on Dante, even going so far as to buy a tennocon ticket because I enjoyed the 'new' DE, I felt massively cheated when they bait and switched 5 days later. Especially since Reb explicitly stated in the most recent dev shorts, that they will be looking at it first instead of hammering it down after just a week.
She straight up lied to people's faces. That and all the blatant gaslighting of the community was too much honestly. I regret spending a single dime on the game and already told all my friends I tried getting back to the game to stay clear. F that noise.
I don't normally post on the forums either, I've been playing the game since the week Inaros came out, experienced burn out several times, stopped playing for months at a time, the whole thing. over those 7 or so years I've bought more than half of the Prime access packs (only missing a few due to employment issues and such) I burned out what felt like for good just after the new war and Kahl's weeklies. I came back for a bit, enjoyed Duviri for about two or three month then left again.
I played like three missions of whispers in the walls and that was it, until Dante Unbound. in the week since Dante Unbound was released I've played every day, farming for Dante, I wasn't back, not yet. the mode was fun and all, I was playing with a few non burned out friends, but I could tell, even with the Inaros rework (which I enjoyed) I wasn't actually going to stick around. There was too much to do, I was so far behind in so many things it didn't even matter (still haven't farmed a single Sister, and my current lich is over a year old at this point. I barley had enough archon shards to fill up two frames, the only recent mechanic I'd unlocked all of was the incarnons from my brief reinvigoration with Duviri).
And then I took Dante out of the oven and gave him a spin. He was instantly my new favorite frame. I loved the way he played, the constant use of his abilities, the options for his abilities. I used them all, and used them constantly. I started farming mirror defense to get mods for his book, I actually bumped my lich up to finally get around to killing him so i could start farming for a hound, to pair with Dante for armor strip. the feelings of burnout were gone for the first time in what felt like years. I was engaging with steel path, I was engaging with my lich, I was playing my favorite game again. it was good to be back. I was even going to spend all my spending money for this weeks paycheck on Warframe. I was looking forward to buying Gauss prime, and a digital Tennocon pack.
And then they gutted Dante, after promising us they wouldn't be heavy handed and nerf him into the ground after just a week.
I tried to play him, I really did. but the LoS felt awful I could barely kill a thing with his powers. I'd press the buttons for tragedy and in a room full of enemies barely any of them would die, or even take damage at all. I found myself using one of my incarnon weapons more and more, instead of casting Dante's abilities, beyond 2-2-4 spamming to keep overguard up, and 3-2-4 to lessen the amount of damage I took. It turned Dante from a caster frame that was fun and engaging to play with, to just another weapons platform. If I wanted that I'd go back to Inaros.
So, I uninstalled the game. something I haven't done since 2016, even in my deepest level of Burnout, Warframe was always "my favorite game," and I'd "get back into it sooner or later." It might sound like an over reaction to some, but this quite literally ruined my weekend, and my opinion of both DE and Warframe. You can be sure I won't be spending any more money on this game (or Soulframe) ever again. Not without a full apology for lying to us, as well as a revert to Dante's original status.
*edited for typos*
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Just now, iiReapzx said:
Thats actually crazy lmao. Enemies blocking other enemies and preventing Tragedy from hitting is unacceptable when they're literally all right in front of you. They seriously need to revert the LOS changes since Tragedy wasn't even a problem in the first place.
its worse. the whatever is visible on screen solution to line of sight is blocked by your warframe you are gettign in teh way of your own cast. and now dark verse is LOS too
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26 minutes ago, Danny99s said:
they made it worse... how did they make it worse.
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Yeah, this ain't it. Uninstalled warframe.
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If you want to make things right, revert Dante fully, allow Overgaurd to Proc rage/HA and Vex armor, and implement these new LoS fixes to all frames still using LoS. Or totally remove LoS.
Your other option is to double down and implement the "new" LoS system to every frame. see how much of the player base remains after that. I came back from nearly a year of burnout, bcuase of Dante Unbound. Dante was quickly becoming my new favorite frame becuase of how fun he was to play, not how OP he was. I was going to purchase both a Tennocon digital pack and Gauss Prime access today (it's payday). Now? Now I might actually be done with warframe. After 8 years and three thousand hours.
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Adding to the ddemand for a revert, as well as reposting what I said in the feedback thread "Thanks for nerfing my new favorite frame a day before payday. I now longer feel the urge to give you guys any money for platinum. I was honestly thinking of buying the tenocon and Guass Prime access pack with this paycheck, (I havent bought a Prime access pack since Hildryn) but you guys just saved me ~160$." I was going to actually give you guys money again after almost a year of burnout. Becuase of Dante being fun to play. But no. no revert, no more money from me ever again.
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Thanks for nerfing my new favorite frame a day before payday. I now longer feel the urge to give you guys any money for platinum. I was honestly thinking of buying the tenocon and Guass Prime access pack with this paycheck, (I havent bought a Prime access pack since Hildryn) but you guys just saved me ~160$
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It just happened to me on ERIS - OESTRUS as well.
[Dante Unbound] Our plans for next week (35.5.6)
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I followed this thread, waiting to hear DE's response. Now that i've heard it, this marks the end of my time with Warframe. It had a good run, shame it had to end like this. Now if youll excuse me i have a bunch of youtube channels to unsubscribe from.