Umbra_Asterism
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Honestly, no matter how smart or powerful enemies are. If we can just incapacitate them or nuking the whole area in a 30m aoe, it doesnt mean jack. Hydroid, Loki, Vauban, Rhino and Nyx can incapacitate enemies for as long as they want. Mag and Nova can clear the whole area with just a press of a button. And the problem is? They all can do it in a massive area and with no cooldown or delay for powers.
Exactly, We need enimies who don't get affected by these things at all, like the Stalker. The leaders need to be immune or resistant to CC. It makes no sense for the drones to be immune to the powers because otherwise why would we even bother with warframe powers? Warframe powers are what seperates it from CoD or Halo. But even so, you could take off all your powers and it doesn't matter how smart or powerful enemies are, you could just shoot them and hide behind cover. Same result, boring method.
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lol @ your opinon of glass cannon.
CC = Survivability in Warframe. health and shield are just numbeers that dictate when you should be looking to take cover/start kitting.
Nova is not a glass cannon.
You went from everything being god mode, to now just Valkyr being god mode if she had Mprime. now tell me, how would Broberon be god mode with mprime? Wouldn't he still be worse than Nova since he doens't have any skills to compete with AMD? Does this make Nova in her current state, super god mode? Maybe queen of gods mode?
Either way continue posting please I'll grab some popcorn.
Saying CC = Survivability is the equivalent of saying the best defense is a good offense.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glass%20cannon
At higher levels enemies can burst down the nova in a second while the Valkyr can literally stand still without having to dodge while only using her Warcry because her armor when maxed and while buffed reduces damage by 90%. That's a tank.
Valkyr was a single example just incase you had the imagination of a five year old to see others with it as well. And as for the Oberon: you would have a ult that is super distructive and 2 ways to heal and high shields so he wouldn't still be worse, he'd be better.
I hope you're trolling, because this is becoming far to stupid to be the opinions of anyone that understands how video games in general work. Because really, do I have to pull up the definition of Tank now?
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1. Prosecutors are trivial, 1 shot to the head with a latron or any of the bows.
2. Nova is not a glass cannon, she has one of the best CC abilities in the game.
3. It's funny how you've made the conlcusion that giving the other frames molecular prime would make them god mode. SO does that mean Nova is currently god mode, since she already has it?
Either way I'm not going to continue arguing here, just gonna laugh at you to be honest.
1. The point is that Prosecutors are a start of a positive trend where special enimies can shrug off certian attacks, also: I notice that you had to not press 4 to kill that Prosecutor and how no matter if you nerfed or buff Mprime you still can't use it to kill him.
2. CC or High Damage with low health is the exact definition of glass cannon.
3. A Valkyr with Mprime would be god mode because you can be invincible AND kill everything easy. SO no it doesn't mean Nova is currently god mode because she doesn't have Iron Skin, Hysteria, Jolt, Ice Globe, Invisibility, Link, or Blessing.
Either way I'm not going to continue arguing here, just gonna laugh at you to be honest because you obivously don't understand logic and its cute to see you try and express your opinions with flawed logic and refuse to defend them properly.
I do thank you however for allowing me to show exactly how flawed the some of the Pro-Nerf arguments are.
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The devs should just give every frame in the game molecular prime as a fifth ability to show the "Anti-nerf" crowd how clueless they are about game design.
Your Post showes exactly how clueless you are about game design.
The whole point is to make every frame useful and unique. You're talking a buff that would make it pointless to have anything other than a rhino. Take a team of Novas to High level def and you'll notice that the enemies like the prosecutors would Kill you because they don't care about Mprime and the Nova is a glass cannon.
I'm talking ANTI-NERF, not buff everything into god-mode. Learn how to read.
And if I as a player put in the hours or cash to become strong enough to murder drones then why bother? I might as well go play Halo because then I wouldn't have to grind to get the exact same experience. That's also why Nova needs to be mastery rank 10: so you have to work for the power, and have it be worth all the time you put into the game.
tl;dr: Don't Nerf, Raise Mastery Walls
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What we need is to be powerful and challenged.
For the most part, we have the powerful part down, but not the challenge.
Very true, that's why I'm all for the inclusion of new non-standard enimies like the Jugernaught Infested and the Rail pvp that almost works like League of Legends (you start off powerless and the more players and minions you kill, the more of your mods that come online.)
My anit-nerf position is based on the fact that we "have the powerful part down" and don't need to lose it. You need the drones to go down in one ult to put the power into context when Vey Hek or his prosecutors take it like it was nothing.
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I've begun to notice something recently, the whining of some of the older players that certain frames and powers are OP and need to be nerfed (weapons as well to a lower extent) seems to have increased. The recent Nova "Nerf" brought this issue to the forefront of my mind.
Some players don't seem to understand something fundimental about this game: You play as a Freaking SPACE NINJA SAMURAI MERCENARY WITH SUPERPOWERS. The first part of the game is about becoming an unstoppable tank with legs, then the second part is going about the place BEING a unstoppable tank with legs. I have 1200 hours in this game and every mod and weapon maxed. If I couldn't kill a room full of standard enimies however I wanted I would be insulted. I'm not a soldier, I'm a TENNO; a grineer lancer doesn't deserve my time when I'm mastery rank 16 no matter what level it is. When I want a challenge I go into pluto with everything I own reset at rank 0 with a forma (or just take mods off) solo. My current favorite thing to do is to bait the stalker into appearing when I'm soloing, that way I can have an awesome melee duel with my Duel Skanas.
If you don't want to go on a exp run and have a Nova in your team saving you time and effort, DON'T use the random party matchmaking and whine about who's on your team. The recruiting tab exists for a reason. Or solo it if it means that much to you that you get all the kills.
Options that might alleviate some of the complaining I see:
1. Put the high teir warframes behind a Mastery wall befitting their power, like Nova at 10 and Rhino at 8
(Instead of making the warframes into paper tigers)
Reason I would perfer this: Now that Nova takes it's time to mark enemies it's faster to just shot all of them if you're doing ANYTHING other than defense or survival. Some Warframe powers are broken in concept. Like Novas ult. It's either amazing or useless depending on how hard you nerf or buff it, there isn't much middle ground without changing the power completely.
(I put this solution first becaus it's easier, but the second removes the need for it)
2. Make more non-standard enimies like the Stalker. Have them Ignore your press 4 to kill get out of jail free card. Force the players to play with more skill and a loadout that doesn't depend on just nuking everything you see.
(like with the Jugernaught infested in development. Love the idea btw)
Reason I would perfer this: It's all about the feeling of power. I feel like a weakling if a lv150 lancer one shots me, but I honestly feel better about the Stalker killing me no matter what level it is. Why? Because he's THE Stalker, not some drone. It's the equivalent of having a rooster sliting your throat as apposed to a Tiger. If I go out fighting a chicken I wouldn't be able to look (insert deity or devil of your choice) in the face.
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I'm all for the inclusion of new non-standard enimies like the Jugernaught Infested and the Rail pvp that almost works like League of Legends (you start off powerless and the more players and minions you kill, the more of your mods that come online.)
My anit-nerf position is based on the fact that we "have the powerful part down" and don't need to lose it. You need the drones to go down in one ult to put the power into context when Vey Hek or his prosecutors take it like it was nothing.
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Fun isn't mutually inclusive with "Challenge". For example; Many like Dark Souls and Devil May Cry for the "Challenge", when really any challenge in any video game can be overcome with time and effort. Learning an enemy's attack patterns and having to personally hunt down each little drone running around the tile because you can't nuke them, is just busy work for those who do not find a challenge fun. Greifing a drone with weapons and abilities is hilarious. Games like Devil May Cry compinsate for things like OP combos and weapons with Harder OPTIONAL game mods for those who actually enjoy a challenge. I LOVE Hell or Hell mode. The enemies are as strong as possible and you die in a single hit, no matter what. The enemies have new attack moves they don't have access to in lower difficulties. You know what kindof sounds like Hell or Hell mode to me? When I do a Nightmare Pluto run with a warframe with un-modded health and shields. (or if they would give the enimies in the nightmare mode the damage buff like the one from the recent alert event) You're abilities and weapons are just as strong as ever, but if you slip up, make one Un-skillful mistake, you die.
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Shame I can't log on now. Error_Internet_Timeout T.T
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I just watched the last live stream where the devs talked about how they're not sure how to handle the issue with alt helmets. Some like the stat changes that they give while others just want them to be cosmetic. The solution? Make the helmets purely cosmetic while puting the stat changes into alt SYSTEMS. Then just give out the alt systems for free to every one that has the current alt helmets.
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I was just in my clan dojo with my ember equiped, then I added a new node and all of a sudden i was in my volt. Nothing else major happened, but I thought it was weird.
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I have one.
second verse same as the first, just add me and we'll play on sunday
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I have a T3 :)
add me then, we plan on going tomorrow.
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I currently have one T3 void key and I have made a contact with one as well.
I'm currently looking for 2 Tenno possesing T3 void keys in order to fill a squad.
The plan is that we all take turns using our T3 void keys in order to maximize our runs.
All 4 party members will use one key each and bring along the others, giving each member
4 runs at the cost of one void key.
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Do you care if i don't have any T3 keys? I've been farming forever to get one, but no cigar.
...That was kindof the point. so we could share 4 runs on t3.
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Alright, I added you Raw. One more spot to go:D
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:D Great! Two more spots to go!
I sent the friend request.
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I have a T3 key and I'm looking for 3 more Tenno with T3 keys to trade runs with.
Please help! I'm desperate to get frost prime blueprints!
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I had the same problem until i changed the order of the precepts. The order you install precepts (or where you place them I'm not too sure yet since i only have a lv 2 cube atm) seems to affect their priority in usage. I removed all precepts and reinstalled them, putting the laser one first at the top left and this fixed the problem completely, with the laser being placed on top of the list of precepts.
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Broken for me as well.
Anti-Nerf Opinion, Why, And Some Easy Solutions That Probably Aren't Origional
in General Discussion
Posted · Edited by Umbra_Asterism
While I do feel the same way, the point of leveling up is to become more powerful, to start as a mouse then become lion with two heads and wings, with a gun. And a missile launcher. However I will conceed that my suggestion of mastery rank 10 May be a bit high, I was just using it as an example.