[(PC) Kuva Liches / Parazon / Kuva Weapons / Etc. Feedback]

All of what i'll be saying are ideas, not everything can be done, and not everything should be put together.

I usually don't give any feedback or ideas (wrote just a bunch since i began to play, when there were still keys and 4revives a day 😂) but i'll put a little something, for once, because i think The Old Blood is a good begining, but too far and too grindy (or at least rng) from what it should be.
I'm on my 13^th lich, had 4 Ayanga and 2 Brakk, the rest is okay. I think i'm just gonna write ideas (from me, and some that i've seen) 'cause putting everything together and be "lector friendly" will be too hard otherwise, but i'll try a bit.

1)Creating a Lich and her weapon :

• We should be able to chose the weapon, as we can chose the element from wich frame we use. This wouldn't be a problem if the % of element wasn't RNG or if we could level it up by any mean. Maybe the choice of weapon we kill the larvling with (a primary for a primary,etc...), even better, if I kill a larvling with a kuva tonkor (before pressing X and creating the lich) the lich will have a tonkor (with the element chose by the frame you use, and the % still RNG).
• The larvling could also be shown with the weapon it'll have when transformed in lich (maybe even the ephemera, or something showing it'll get one). In that case, the grindy part would be on the larvling part, and not on getting rid ASAP of a lich you don't want the weapon nor the crappy % element.
• We need something to upgrade % of kuva weapons if you keep the RNG on them.

 

2)Farming requiems in relics :

We farm them almost only from requiem. It's not like regular relics where you get something you don't want and you can trade it, sell it for ducats or give it to friends...Here everything stay in our hands only, but very little is useful nor used. Even if I want to farm Riven (RNG in sortie and expensive in trade usually) it's 10(rng) slivers for 1 riven every week. I don't see myself going in requiem fissure only to pile up sliver and come once a week to get the "free" riven.

• The drop tables should be changed. Exilus weapon adapter really aren't that good to take, instead of Kuva, Sliver or Requiem; plus you can farm them with syndicates, wich gives you 100% chance to get them, you also get medallions, points and ressources that you can use as you wish. Exilus weapon adapter should stay only as syndicate reward imo. As i've seen in commentary, the rare reward could be the 2 requiems together. Or there could be less rewards in the relic : yes Kuva is good but we can already farm it in Kuva siphon, Kuva flood and Kuva Survival. And ayatan ember stars...humm, of course it's harder to get than regular ones, but endo isn't a problem nowadays, cause we get so much sculptures...

3)Farming thralls/murmurs :

After the last update, i think it's pretty fast now, the problem is that you go in controlled territory ONLY for them, nothing more. I even found myself, after my 5-6 lich, avoiding Exterminate missions because i find them too repetitive than the other (and half of lich missions are exterminations), just to get 5-10 thralls, and maybe a lich (but we'll see that later).

• There should be an affinity multiplier, or ressource multiplier/booster, or something, in those Controlled territory missions, something more than "There-thralls-must kill-for lich"
• Maybe as i've seen proposed by someone, something closer to Shadow of Mordor. Killing HARD ennemies to get one of the 3 requiems. At X thralls killed, a node unlocks and you got a big fight (like Kela de Thaym or something like this).

 

Parazon and requiems :

Parazon is a good addition. It's just strange that it appeared out of nowhere (maybe tutorial explain it, but as an old player, i didn't see it) and is used for hacking devices (yes), and corpses (wait..what?). Mods on it are "okay", only have 3 so far, it adds some utility. Then we got REQUIEMS, named runes used to kill liches.

• Make requiems refillable, with kuva. Or make them not used, relative of the level of the lich.
• Don't count empty requiems on reward window in requiem fissures.
• It's nice to be able to find out a requiem without murmurs, but sometimes you have requiems 2 and 3, and then you wait, wait, wait, for your lich to appear each time (when people don't block them, and when you don't get comboed to death). We need something to "help" her appear. Maybe a beacon, bought to Palladino, with kuva, because apparently kuva is at the center of The Old Blood.

 

Lichs fights :

2 scenarios. You cut the lich into pieces like sweet cheese, or she takes 0 damages (even when you use her weakness). Had a lich with electric weak, took Chroma, lanka with 12k electricity, buffed myself, she wasn't taking more damages than with my kitgun wich she had resistances on. Another thing, people not wanting to kill their lich because of X reason. A Lich is supposed to be a Nemesis. So make it real, make a real fight, where we have to watch carefully her abilities and her weaknesses. And stop making them appear 300m behind, alone in a corner when we are at extraction.

• Too many people don't want to kill their lich because of leveling it up, putting her on more planets, etc...One thing : keep the lvl up on death, bug make the lich max lvl to more than 5, and MOST OF ALL, make us gain something from leveling her up. Be it %element, big kuva reward, chance to not use requiem, anything, but as it is, that's not "good" to level her up. Personally i don't care, each time i see mine, i try to kill her, but some people are afraid, even if now it gives murmur, and i understand it (so i go play in solo when i reach 2/3 requiems)
• Make the lich really vulnerable to her weakness, and "resistant" to her resistances, not almost invulnerable. Cause it's either 0 damage (invulnerability), 5-100 (resistance) or 1/3 health bar dissapearing. I find myself using my strongest weapons and not watching weak/res/invul or op damage/tank frames like Mesa, Atlas, Chroma, Inaros.
• Some lich combos shouldn't exist, or tweak down her damages. Happened too many times when i got tp'd, pin down, then grabbed and died, even when being careful. Melee grab damage is a bit too much. It's meant to keep our distance, okay, but when you see that it's with melee that you deal the more damages (or just deal damages), well there is no other option.
• Maybe we could get a message inbox like stalker, but signaling that next mission she will appear 100%, or a node with another color/name to show it. Else her apparitions are a bit too random, even when Fuming, it's possible to do 3-4 missions without her coming (so wasting time). A friend of mine did almost 20 missions without seeing his.
• Liches need to have better abilities, or at least they need to use them more. Actually they are just firing their weapon wich sometimes can one shot (hello tonkor) and sometimes using an ability. Moreover, make more pools of abilities. Each type of lich have 3 abilities in common, plus another one (wich is either Tp, Lurch, Vault or Stampede)

 

Lich rewards :

This, fellow tennos, is the biggest problem. The reward is too small for everything we've gone through. You create a lich, you see it's not the weapon that you want (or worth, you already got it 2-3 times in a row), or the %element is garbage, but you have to kill it to change, and hope for a better one.

• Allow the lich to have more levels, and each level she gains % or her weapon. Yes some people will have a lich starting at 50% and other at 20%, but at least you can up it, instead of killing the lich and hoping for better. (out of 13 lich, got 1 at 50%, 3 around 40%, the other between 20% and 30%)
• The system wich allow us to merge kuva weapons is good but the element isn't kept. Let me explain : kuva ayanga 20%radiation+kuva ayanga 60%fire; you can't put the first Ayanga to 60%radiation, you only keep the best. So if it's "good" only if you farm 1 weapon with 1 element...see the problem 😓?
• Maybe put a second option on kuva weapons, crushing them in something (lich dust/powder?) that is used to up the % of other kuva weapons.
• Possibly make the lich kill rewarding kuva or at least a biggest reward than just a weapon (wich can be bad % or useless)

I'm still missing a lot of things i think, and many have other ideas, but i've been on this text for too long already. I'll still continue liches cause it needs a lot to disgust me of something (and it's still fun, plus there is potential), but maybe at my 30th-40th, even before, i'm just gonna surrend and stop farming them because it's too much RNG. And let's say you want at least 3-4 kuva weapons at 60% (because you want to have the strongest weapon, that's just logic) well i think the grind and time will be infinite. Last thing (seen above somewhere), make it that you can chose the weapon you get at the end, like, fight the lich on Kuva fortress, in an armory (idk) and at the end you have the entire pannel of weapons (but for this there are other things to do like not showing weapon on lich, tweaking somehow the element, and the %, etc...). Maybe you can add a red veil (the one when creating a lich) like the radiation color when in rad sorties, putting us more in a kuva/lich vibe.

On that note, i still want to say that Warframe is a good game, but needs a lot of improvements (*cough* endgame), and some polish. Just listen to the community and it'll be a lot easier to make good updates 😆

LOVE_{from a fellow Tenno that never talks}

[LT Lech Krill on Exta]

Same here. Got a ressources drop so i went to get some orokin cells, i did it a last time 5min ago, he broke on his last tube, slamming floor without freezing, so i had to quit ( 4orokin cells :'( )

[Octavia's Anthem: Hotfix 20.0.5]

Thanks, the survival problem was really annoying, now i can go in ODS again...and hope octavia drop x')

[Derelict Survival]

3 minutes ago, Robbery525 said:

Did 2 40min ODS and a 15min ODS in a group, nothing drops after 5 minutes.

Also stayed 10 minutes on a solo ODS (made sure matchmaking was set to solo) and still only got the first 5 minute drop.

 

So, bug confirmed. (please DE, reward us)

It's know since the hotfix came, sad nobody told you :/ stayed online just to tell people in region and recruting chat about it :/ Anyway spread the info in game when you can, helpfull for other players ^^ for the fix, we'll have to wait until De is up. Atm nothing we can do, moderators know about this.

[Octavia's Anthem: Hotfix 20.0.4]

DE staff is actually (almost sure 100% since moderators were saying it) asleep, have to wait till they'r up to make hotfixes, about ODS or HUD or anything else (maybe some will come before the others)

[Chat ;/]

Sorry to post it there, but it goes with a Chat problem. If i left+right click on the chat window, then hold and move, the chat window will always move acoording to my mouse afterwards. It's annoying and can't be undone unless disconnecting and reconnecting.

[Octavia's Anthem: Hotfix 20.0.4]

Dear people, for the ODS problem, we have to wait until DE is up :/ actually we can only pass the information about it, to stop people wasting time on Octavia's Neurotopics at the moment. :/

[Derelict Survival]

Got a moderator message in region chat. Spread the information in region chat AND recruting chat when you can or see someone who want to go in ODS for octavia's neuro ^^ we have to wait 'till next hotfix (DE out at the moment) :/

[Derelict Survival]

2 minutes ago, DoctorRoosterMD said:

Mission progress showed no relics or anything. I got nothing for rewards

 

Just now, Nostdrea said:

I am sorry, but I have not found this to be the case. Could you confirm that this is happening for you in the latest hotfix? (20.0.4)

Same, looked up mission progress, nothing more. That's not just a display bug, rewards aren't existing in second A, B and C

[Octavia's Anthem: Hotfix 20.0.4]

19 minutes ago, T.o.P.S. said:

Orokin Derelict Survivals (ODS) dosen't drop anything after 5 minute mark. Ran 2 ODS after the hotfix and same thing happened twice. Anyone else having this issue and is it only related to ODS?

Same here (posted on another topic), reward from 5.00 min, then nothing. Tried 3 times, same result. was with a friend and 2 random people, they get nothing too.

[Derelict Survival]

I confirm, got first reward at 5.00, then nothing at 10-15-20 (tried 3 times, same problem)

[Ayatan Sculptures]

It happend twice, not a really big deal, but anoying :

if i have an ayatan sculpture (let's take Piv sculpture here) and i do the mission of maroo's bazar and got the same one (Piv again), I only have one of them in my inventory :| So i've done a mission for nothing, wasting time and i'm sad to not be able to get more endo ^^