LostGryphon
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Step 1: Valkyr.
Step 2: There is no step 2.
So that was one of the most frustrating bosses I've fought so far and I've been bumming around since the Banshee update.
Not due to difficulty, mind, but because rollers are literally the most annoying damned things in the game...and, my god, there are so many of them.
And-
Wait, wait, wait, wait. I have to grind out 5-10 more of those missions if I even want to go through that again? Why? That- WHY!?
C'mon, grindyness was even on the bourbon list, guys! -
That...is a flat out gorgeous Banshee.
Love the mermaid/deep sea creature (glowing tendril lures, scaled hands and head, etc) elements and the golden bits. :o
Would have preferred this one over the current deluxe. -
Yup!
That's just...I mean it doesn't even look like they tried. This may as well be an entirely different frame. -
Also, his noble with dual pistols is currently playing Chroma's animation for some reason.
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I just wonder about her legs, they are skinny x.x
But ok, its a fantasy character, so why not^^
Thaaat's what was throwing me off.
I was wondering why she looked so...wrong. But, yeah, that's it. Her legs are so thin relative to her torso/arms.
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Yep. Does the same for me on Mag with Mirage's Noble.
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Confirmed.
Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/OOQFo
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Alright. I don't usually take the time to voice out my grievances with things, especially if they require more than one or two lines of text (Hey, i'm lazy!) But today I'm feeling quite passionate, for the wrong reasons, unfortunately.
I think, this describes how I feel after the quest quite well.
Let me explain. After the quest I didn't quite know how to respond to this long awaited reveal. I was quite impartial. But then it hit me, as I was customizing my Warframe's colors and such, changing up it's cosmetics and what have ye, I didn't feel attached to it. At all.
As the OP said. It's because I grew attached to my Warframes. Not this 'Tenno' kid. But now, I can't find that sense of attachment. Because there's nothing to be attached to, in reality, it's just a hallow tin controlled by a Kid. Which, I have no attachment to whatsoever. All these frames of mine are actually just the same thing, the same person. This same person who i hold no attachment to.
I don't know why but I feel it would have helped, for me anyway, if perhaps it wasn't a kid but an older character as the Tenno. That would help me relate to it more. But as it is now I can't find my self liking the Tenno very much.
I don't even roleplay much either! So some might find it strange I feel this way. But perhaps if I use something as a comparison: League Of Legends.
My main on there is the one true deliverer of Justice itself, Garen. Big. Buff. Powerfull, lot's of cheesy lines about Justice. He's great. I'm attached to him. But imagine they tell me Garen is in actuality controlled by Annie, the cute little, slightly crazy pyromancer girl, and Garen is just a hallow shell. Yeah-no. I'm going to lose all the attachment I had to Garen, atleast from a character/theme standpoint. And while that may be stupid, as gameplay wise he's exactly the same, I don't care. He just is not the same character I grew attached to.
This is how I feel with Warframe right now.
This is true. And regardless of how I feel about it, DE has made their choice. It is what it is. I won't bash DE for their decision. Nor will I stop playing or anything like that. I'll eventually have to come to some sort of terms with it. But the fact remains, I feel like I lost something about this game. Something which I very much enjoyed. And I don't think that, I will get that feel from it back again.
Thank you for putting my current plight into words.
Let's get the negativity out of the way first:
I will readily admit that, upon finishing the quest, I was absolutely elated; the execution was great and DE really outdid themselves.
But...shortly after, looking at my frame again after it'd finished, there was just this profound disconnect. A massive wedge, shaped like a weird psychic space teenager with an ugly mug and vacant eyes, suddenly slammed itself between me and the 'characters' I'd been playing as for the past few years.
It's jarring. It's unwelcome. I don't like it.
And it just puts another layer between me and what I'm playing as.
I'd always hoped we were people in frames. Malformed or void-touched people with suits "built around us" as the codex said, which acted as a conduit for the power.
It's astoundingly easy to rationalize the multiple frames thing and revives and what not too: It's a game. I could play multiple frames because it's a game and variety is good. I could revive because it's a game mechanic.
But this. Man. I'm not going to stop playing (I've invested far too much money and time into it at this point), but my interest in the frames themselves has just cratered. I mean, I'm not even playing a third person game anymore.
It's fourth person. And the fourth person is a creepy psychic space teenager.
And now for something a little more positive:
All right, here's something I'm kinda hoping for now...with a bit of rationalizing certain segments of the quest as being necessary for gameplay (ex. firing beams at stuff with the kid while we carry them)-
We're still the frames.
We're not the space teenager.
We, the players, are the consciousness/body inside the suit.
We, due to tampering and genetic engineering done by the Orokin, require the space teens to 'function.'
Except now, after the last bit where we destroy the sword, we're gaining independence. We've been controlled and empowered for so long that it's enabled us to begin breaking free as individuals.
Evidence?
1. The space teenager still comes off as a separate entity from us, the players. It just sits in the ship, soaks up XP, and occasionally quips (seemingly TO us) in missions. It doesn't feel like an extension of myself. It feels like another character that's been added into the game, in the vein of Lotus or Ordis or what have you. The primary, and really only, vector for gameplay is STILL my frame.
2. Rhino Prime's codex. The primordial version of Rhino Prime was, like its forebears, an experiment. Likely some form of infested or void-stricken person. Previous incarnations of it existed. The scientist states as much... "I have seen this monster before. I have cut its shell and eviscerated its brothers. I have given it pain and measured its response. I have crafted then rejected countless like it."
This says to me that the frames are living things and they might not have been intended to be used as conduits for the Tenno until-
"Then silence. Davis is panting, laughing? The beast fills the doorway, inches from him, dripping in blood, but still without violence. It stands there, looking at its hands. Davis whispers, 'No one would have believed me.'
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'This is where they keep them. The ones from Zariman.' I'm thrown, what was the Zariman? The ship that never returned? 'Davis, what's going on?' Davis turns to me, a smile forming - 'What's going on is..' He turns back to the beast now silent and calm. '...big, fat promotions.' "
One approached the Zariman kids' location after breaking free of its containment. Close enough to be affected by their energy. Their psychic link, I guess? Which pacified it and...perhaps, sparked consciousness? It stops and...looks at its hands.
Davis is thrilled because it's a discovery and, obviously, will lead to them getting compensated.
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This is likely me just grasping at straws, but, hell. It at least lets me feel more connected to what I'm playing, rather than- I don't know, bumming around the universe as a psychic space teenager?
Ugh.
"Cognitive Dissonance" comes to mind.
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I just want to thank DE for adding effects. Looks good and simple enough.
Came hereabouts to specifically mention that I adore the effects.
The energy colored dissolve when you holster and equip, along with the shimmer that seems to indicate they're cloaking rather than disappearing entirely is just awesome.
So whichever DE folks worked on that? It's an awesome touch and it IS appreciated!
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Officially, no idea, they haven't really got around to telling us really how wearing the suits even works.
Unofficially, my theory is that the suits just have the look and physical build of whatever poor sap got to be made into an infested and harvested to make the suit. One of More0's theories is that the suits are based off the physical builds of Guardians and grown from their proportions. Either way, I think the inside of the suit functions similar to our ammo stores, invisible pockets, and Ordis's inventory as well - Hammerspace or small void pockets so they are spacious on the inside and exoskeletal bared skin on the outside. I figure the suits are like Guyvers in a way but the back perma black material on the spines and back side of many warframes are parts that seal the Tenno in when the suit is in use and then retract when it needs to get switched.
That's actually a really neat idea. ^.^ Made me remember those movies too. Loved 'em as a kid.
OT:
Personally, I've been subscribing to the "it's a game and we're playing multiple characters/it doesn't have to make sense as it's a game mechanic" idea.
Tenno, to me, are void-touched humans/Orokin. Kids, orphans likely, experimented on en masse in secret due to either desperation (sentient/infested incursions) or plain old evil/manipulative government BS by the Orokin. Rhinos' and Embers' codex entries point (pretty damned directly) to this being the case.
They're humans/Orokin/maybe pre-cursors to Corpus...but warped, likely quite a damned bit, and the suits provide them with a simultaneous conduit and seal for the powers they've garnered.
I originally pictured each Tenno as possessing bodily traits of their 'chosen' frame, in that it's the frame they're put in because of said traits, not so much due to choice.
Except Ordis says, "Your chosen Warframe" which screws up my initial interpretation, so I guess I'll just fall back on the "lolgamemechanics" excuse.
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...Instant day one buy for me.
The tail sold it. I'm sorry. But cat frame > everything. -
So, "we're" supporting Alad then?
I think we know what that means.
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U16 is pretty fun so far, folks. :D
QUESTIONS:1. Foooooooooooocuuuuuuuuus.
2. Lore.
a. Any chance of a campaign or...we doing multiple quests for bite-sized chunks?
b. Tenno. What are we? You guys said this would be getting addressed months ago, I thought. May be wrong.3. PvP - Team Death Match Mode, please?
Thanks for the continued awesomeness, guys/gals. ^.^ Get some damned sleep. -
Was fun to have some motivation for teh artination. ^.^ Grats to winners and thank ya kindly for the honorable.
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Man, "last minute," but (sparse background aside) here we go...
And a little rhyme...
"The road ahead will likely be hard to find,
but do your best to avoid being left behind"
Amazing entries, folks. ^.^ Genuinely beautiful pieces in here. And I'm tempted to bug some of you for painting advice. -
Working on mine currently. ._. I may have gotten a bit overambitious...then completely forgot about it for a week...and then remembered and am now struggling to finish in time/working it into my work schedule.
Blargh!
Awesome submissions thus far though. Some really beautiful ones up in dis bish. -
I'm a bit late on this...but damn.
That's absolutely gorgeous.
And the kitty frame. Kitty fraaaaame! -
Well...some base frames just look better?
For instance, Mag. I love her more subdued design with the swirly helmet. Or Ember! I adore the prime version, but the standard is awesome in its own right.
Standard Frost looks miles better than his prime and Rhino looks better too.
All subjective, mind...but throw in a lack of real "difference" between them and, well, why bother in some cases outside of completionism/mastery/swag. :D
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Dat tube top?
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Well...I thought I may have had a snowball's chance when this thing started, but...wow.
You folks are amazing. With my imminent defeat in mind, here's my submission.
I've never done a comic before, so this was a pretty fun exercise in and of itself, and...well, didn't have much time for the coloring job, due to ALL of my co-workers deciding that this was the week they'd take off, but ah well.
Best of luck, folks!
Oh, and Inks for those interested.
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Nevermind. o.o Not gonna redo it. MS Paint makes me want to strangle small woodland creatures and I've got other stuff to work on.
There we are. Quick and dirty.
Just like my Saryn. :D
Also, congratulations on your inevitable win, Mr or Ms buka_taru. -
Yep, can't log in now.
Thank ya for the update though. :D -
Updated: With some meh color and more details!
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It looks.... cute
It sounds.... cute
* Why does it remind me of Sailor Moon though?
I choose to take that as a compliment.
And I don't know? Is it the pose?
Suddenly having thoughts of magical girl warframes though...
Nova Prime Lamia Skin Bug
in Art & Animation
Posted · Edited by LostGryphon
Images in spoiler:
http://imgur.com/a/EkCKM
Nova Prime's version of the Lamia skin is doing a weird thing where it looks like the geometry doesn't connect at her ribs when she crouches, so it's just sorta missing the middle bit. I've circled the issue in red.
The normal Nova version, with the yellow circle, appears to be fine.