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  1. Except Cataclysm doesn't have a projectile. It simply spawns where the reticule is... toggle makes sense because the ability is a static AoE field.

    Well...it would spawn then follow the reticle and "home/track" enemies you target..., but i don't see why they can't do both because limbo has two very different playstyles when using a duration build vs power build that are borderline viable. (whereas most frame benefit poweronly/durationonly builds or a mix)

     

    To drop some forsight on people, I disagree with the damage passive in the void. They will most likely lower the multiplier drastically or just flat out replace the free energy siphon limbo has in the void on top of the latter. 

     

    I like limbos innate energy siphon mechanic. He feels unique where if he builds for duration, its almost the same as building for effiency. It's called diversity, and Limbo is the only one who has it. 

  2. So I was messing around with the rendering crane stance for heavy axes and accidentally got a mix of both dragon landings (i think thats the name). It's basic 3 hit chain then the dash and the airborne spin. Pretty cool. 

     

    its e, e, e, forward+e(hold) 

     

    if you have trouble forward+e, you can p-link it. press forward then e really fast. 

     

    Anyone else find secret combos?

  3. She still has boxing animations. Granted theyre cleaner and less floaty. Itd be nice if her ult had unique animations. I want to press 4 and go into ima angry tenno and i will rip you a new one instead of press 4 equip furax or equip another existing melee weapon.

    Also hysteria mechanics could change.

    Like the lifesteal could be on warcry. 0.1x or 0.05x lifesteal for primary/secondary. 2x or 1x life steal for melee.

    Invincibility could be gone. A base armor buff that scales could go hysteria. At 250 health she could get more 1.5x move speed, 2x damage, 4x armor. These could scale every 50 health she loses. At 200 she could 1.6x move speed, 3x damage, and 5x armor etc. I know armor sucks so..

    maybe (big emphasis on maybe) because she doesnt have god-mode to mitigate damage passively and armor is very underwhelming, she can use her primary and secondary during hysteria to mitigate damage actively.

    If primary/secondary thing ^^ doesn't happen. Hysteria's melee strikes could be aoe.

    TLDR:

    -new hysteria animations valkyr only

    -ult mechanics changed

    -warcry has lifesteal

  4. nah, it will be never, because "there is no consensus"

    Hahaha. Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but the ""consensus"" was decided in U7. God-mode is a placeholder.

    Blessing will get nerfed whether you like it or not.

    It's just taking awhile because she's not too popular, and the devs are doing a little bit of everything simultaneously.

  5. Well with the rate they're going we can see a trinity nerf 5 updates from now.

    They should make link not be in use when she casts blessing and during the invul period.

  6. Typical biased rhino nerf threads are getting old.

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    This does not include any other speed enhancing abilities or aura such as Speed or Sprint Boost. Nor does it include Rhino Charge. 

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    Stat wise, Loki needs the speed more than Rhino because if a projectile, yielding the same amount of damage were to hit both frames, Loki would be afflicted the most. At the same time, both Loki and Rhino sit on opposite ends of the spectrum in relationship to their abilities: one draws aggro to the self while the other disperses it.

     

    Most Loki players know to move out of the way of incoming fire. Most will move out of the radius of an AOE if they can ( or at least I can assume they will). Speed is consider his "thing" which Rhino P is encroaching on.

     

    So as priority goes, the more fragile the frame, the more they will need faster movement. As you can see, this hold true for the most part. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Warframes_Comparison (by hitting the arrows on sprint speed you can see they are organized by top speed)

    Can you stop with this nonsense already, or we might hear bs like 'what good is cannon for if its made of glass => give Nova Iron Skin!' and the fabulous Loki Prime with 1000 shields and health.  Because lets stack all the strenghts at one frame and make it excell at every role right? Tankiness, CC immunity. team damge buff, massive CC with aoe damage , still not enough -  lets make it fastest frame in the game too, or god forbid people chose other frames to play.

     

     

     

    Yea loki is fragile and he can't mitigate damage like a tank, but he can completely avoid damage with invisibility which is 1000x better than mitigating damage with IS, 

     

    if speed was loki's ""thing"" why aren't you asking to nerf volt? Tankiness, aoe cc+damage, team damage buff. 

     

    Game play wise tanks are main to be slower because they are generally much more capable of taking damage then casters and tricksters.

    This is UNIVERSAL. I'm not making this up. Every game ever if there is a powerful character with alot of health they are generally slow.

     

    Volibear. He's a tank with lots of health and moves fast. 

     

    Also Geb on smite. 

     

     

    For the rhino kit +stats is too good arguement

     

    His numerical values are below average except rhino charge. He's also mastery locked and should be better. Like the marelok is better compared to semi auto secondaries. 

     

    For the Rhino can charge and is end all be all fast frame arguement

     

    Switch teleport 

  7. 1. Not being the best at something doesn't change the fact that he is good at everything. Being good at everything means he only has one weak area, and that's his sprint speed. Vanguard changes that weak area into a strength.

    2. Zephyr and Volt are the only frames capable of keeping up with a rushing, Vanguard wearing, Rhino Prime. Without their abilities they are slower than him. Loki isn't the only frame that can use the Dual Zoren, and if abilities are allowed in their race Rhino Prime wins because Charge moves you in excess of 50 meters with the push of a button (when modded with the necessary mods).

     

    3. Trinity is tankier but has very little CC. Valkyr is tankier, but gets her damage nerfed and still have very little CC. Zephyr can tank better, but she doesn't get the immunity to knockdowns and other such things (I don't think she does much damage either).

     

    4. Yes, when compared to a specialist he seems to fall short. But unlike that specialist, Rhino has other areas that he is also good in. Being mastery locked does not excuse Vanguard taking away his one weak spot.

     

    5. Its 'drawback' is -5% power strength, that is free speed. Hemlock is +10% speed and -5% health, that isn't much of a drawback BUT 10% is only taking her from slow (.95) to a little above average (1.04 IIRC). Rhino goes from .9 to 1.125 (Ash is 1.15), and Rhino Prime goes from 1 to 1.25 (Loki is 1.25). Health scaling poorly means having less of it is even worse.

    1) and it nerfs all his abilities. 

     

    2) Biased arguement. Why don't you mention Switch Teleport?

     

    3) Unlike IS these skills actually negate damage and scale. Zephyr doesn't need to do damage when her cc does work at all levels. 

     

    4) Other mastery locked items have no "weak area" or "weak spots". Look at PP. For bows, paris prime is good at everything stat-wise.

     

    5) lol. Having modded-health is nice, and modded-shields are even nicer, but at the end of the day modded-abilities are going to get you through the starchart.

  8. Even if they made him mastery locked (cant find on wiki), you don't need any rank to FARM him and by the time you will be building him you will easily be rank 2

    Yea...good luck crafting non starting weapons and gaining mastery b/c all the useful resources are in waaaay later planets.

  9. This completely ruins Rhino how he should be, and basically creates the "best" class in the game.

    I beg to differ. Rhino is at best an all around frame with vanguard. Sure he can be mobile,tanky,buff team dps and cc, but he's not the "best" at any of them.

    We have volt, zephyr (especially) and any loki worth his zorens that can be faster.

    All frames are tankier than rhino with blessing technically. Honorable mention is valkyr and any zephyr that can avoid melee range.

    Roar does 1.0x more damage with maxed mods. M prime gets 2.0x unmodded. Sonar gets 5.0x unmodded if you have decent aim.

    Chaos is practically the best cc in the game.

    Rhino can do everything half a**ed because he's ...wait for it...MASTERY LOCKED. Mastery frames/ weapons are stronger? No way. Mind=blown.

    To everyone saying VG gives no drawbacks, it nerfs every single one of Rhino's abilities. Hemlock is basically free speed with no worthwhile drawbacks. Health scales so poorly (if you're not valkyr or trinity) compared to abilities.

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