Godlyman
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A quick update after a few days of using all 3 builds.
Even though all 3 builds' performance against LV 125 bombard are about the same.
When I start using them in the real life condition I found that the HS+VA build seems to be noticeably weaker especially at high level like sortie.
I assumed that because the much lower base damage. But the other 2 builds still perform very much the same.
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10 hours ago, Datam4ss said:
Yes, it can. With your current riven you have about 67% of getting a third shot. With VA you will always get a third shot with a chance of getting a 4th.
However, this is the same argument as Multishot vs Damage for a slash weapon - do you want to get more damage per proc, or more procs? It boils down to personal pref, although once all variables are taken into account, the whole affair becomes sketchy. Also, it fails to take into account what WF you are using.
For example in a C4P squad HC will obviously be better. HC is also better vs Infested and Corpus Or with an armor stripping Ash/Banshee/Whatever armor strip frame, you don't care about corrosive procs. With a Chroma VA is undoubtedly better.
Personally I just go with a 3rd elemental even though it dilutes my corrosive. I should change it to HC but I am lazy to forma (I have a riven like yours, but without the neg and the PT)
That is why, we need multiple builds it is hard to make a build that best for all situation. There is always pro/con or trade off, which makes the game fun. 😄
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2 minutes ago, Datam4ss said:
I mean if it works no reason to fix it XD. But with a multishot riven VA is really like ... wasted.
Well multishot can stag above 100% right? and cause Tripleshot instead of just double. So VA should not be that bad. And in theory it should increase status chance as well, although I'm not sure how it act with beam weapon such as Amprex. But the result is very close.
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25 minutes ago, Datam4ss said:
Please don't use VA. Thanks to the way stuff scales you are losing damage. Use Heavy Cal instead of VA. The chance of the rare red crit is really not worth it as a red crit is only 50% more damage than an orange crit while heavy cal will give you a permanent 60%++ damage boost for all shots compared to an empty slot, while VA is only giving ~ 22% more damage compared to if the slot was empty.
Unless, of course, you plan to exclusively use Amprex with Chroma.
I have another build with Heavy Cal + Hammer Shot instead of VA. It is not bad.
Between these 3 builds they perform very close to each other.
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Bottomline is my riven have -80% Status Duration, any other proc aside from corrosive will only last split second.
And without corrosive proc taking away the armor Amprex can barely deal damage to high armor enemies like Bombard or Heavy Gunner.
After some test, I ended up with these 2 builds
1. Hammer Shot with dual stats Corrosive + VA 44% status chance
This build has lower based damage but the critical damage quite high I can get over 10K+ orange and red cri from this build.
With 44% status chance the corrosive proc is quite consistent. And the cri damage kill the enemy off really quickly.
2. Two dual stats Corrosive + VA 48.4% status chance
Replace Heavy Caliber with another dual stats so this build has a slightly higher status chance @48.4%.
The based damage is higher than the first build but critical damage is noticeably lower. And I cant seems to get red crit with this build.
Both builds can kill single LV 125 Bombard using less than 13-19 ammo and both can clear mob of 8 LV 125 Bombards quite easily.
Aside from seeing red cri when I use the first build (which is always nice). In term of "how long does it take to kill single enemy or mob", I cannot feel any difference between the 2 builds.
For personal preference, I think I will go for the HS build just for a sake of red cri. ^_^
Thanks you all for your helpful comments.
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3 minutes ago, Starcanum said:
Yep and it does in fact work better, tested a bit more and I'd definitely stick with the latest build I mentioned.
I switch HC out and replace it with VA as well will try this again tomorrow. My Amprex is at 9 forma now but if I look at this build I think I can do it with 6-7 Forma.
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well with VA you get damage + multishot which indirectly increase the status chance that may work better than Heavy caliper
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Current build after take out the D
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So us dual stats to increase the chance of corrosive proc. If this is the case then will Hammer shot maybe a good addition since it add both cri damage and status chance?
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8 minutes ago, Starcanum said:
Why you gotta ignore the status? You never wanna replace High Voltage + Malignant Force with Stormbringer + Infested Clip unless you're facing like lvl 30- against which you don't really care since even the x2.2 base damage is enough.
Well with such shot status duration from my riven do you think it worth using Dual stat mods?
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I've made some adjustment which should give me more base damage. But both builds seems to need reforma one slot to get the most damage out of them.
Option 1: Cri + Cold + Corrosive
If I forma one of V to - then I can replace High voltage with Storm Bringer which will give me higher corrosive damage.
Option 2: Cri + Corrosive
If I reforma D to - then I can replace High voltage with Storm Bringer which will give me higher corrosive damage.
Thought?
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Just now, NinjaZeku said:
Does it actually work that way on Beam weapons now?
I don't know either, does it?
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10 minutes ago, Ker-Blammo said:
Yes it would reapply, but you can have multiple slash procs at once, so it doesn't matter too much. Corrosive will give you the biggest bang for your buck with that.
Since slash proc can stagged, status duration be quite beneficial.
So with my riven I may not take full advantage out of it.
Any suggestions which mod should I use? Hammer Shot for extra cri damage? Sinister reach for clearing mob ? Argon scope so I get lots of red cri? Or other mod ?
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Thank you very much for all comments. It makes sense that with -80% status duration I should focus on corrosive.
Although I have some questions about Hunter Munitions.
With Hunter Munitions I have 30% of getting slash proc on Critical Hit. With the riven negative status duration the slash proc probably only last a second or so. But with high critical chance all my shot will be critical hit plus high mutishot will increase number of shot which also increase chance of applying status proc. Would there is a good chance that the slash proc will be reapplied very shortly after the status duration run out?
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I just got this riven which look pretty good so I asked a few people and the Critical + multishot + punch through seems to work well with Amprex.
And the negatives status duration does not affect corrosive anyway. So I decided to keep it and try to build my Amprex (8 forma) around this riven.
But I'm some what a newbie and need some advice on how to build this.
Please note that I really look for some input and have no intention of bragging what so ever. Thank you in advance for your input.
This is my 1st build = Corrosive + Hunter Munitions
This is my 2nd build = Primed Cryo Rounds add lot of cold damage but it messed up the corrosive build so it become Electricity + Viral Build instead
This is my 3rd build = Just the same Critical + Corrosive Build but add Hammer shot in there so I get higher critical damage
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26 minutes ago, -dapoy.Amily- said:
worked for me (had three rivens with this task).
only worked for Corpus dropships. did it with ember's world on fire AND Mesa's peacemaker
which mission?
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Seems like most of you guys prefer Mari. Is it because of the tails? or color combination?
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Managed to breed 3 Smeeta Kavat with tufted ears and 3 different tails.
Already Maxed all of them but I can't decide which one should I install the reactor and forma it. (to use)
Any suggestion?
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Hey guys any idea how much she worth?
Also This girls too?
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Could anyone please give me some idea on this?
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Just bred my first Kavat. She is an Adarza. I just wonder how much she worth.
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I'm new to the Kavat Breeding this is my first one. It is an Adarza. I just wonder how much it worth?
So apparently Umbra isn't a prime anymore.
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Not sure if that is a big deal ... I never rely on energy from Death Orb anyway.
Bottom line is Umbra is not a Prime ... as simple as that.