Starbomber109
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1 hour ago, krc473 said:
I think you made a mistake. If 1% = 1.5 seconds this would be 45 seconds for 30%, not 90 seconds. You do get the correct number of seconds total though (13 * 45 = 585s).
This does seem like it will be a tough task the longer you stay. You might be able to do it with loot manipulation (Nekros) but that has it's own problems. Some things to consider:
- Don't waste capsules. If they come every set period, make sure you are using them.
- Capsules actually can give 32%. You just activate them on ~1% remaining and you get extra to account for activation time. This will be a quite risky in this mission. But you would get around 40 seconds of extra time.
It does seem like it could be possible. You would need an optimal setup though. I wouldn't try it, it just seems like far more effort than it needs to be.
Thanks for pointing it out, fixed it.
On the activating at 1% I don't think that's worthwhile. An extra 40 seconds still won't take me halfway through the mission. It also seems like my kill count is off (so the spawnrate probably isn't as bad as I thought) just because of the screenshots people posted of their Hildryn runs. Midas only killed 8 enemies per minute (assuming all of that was play time and that he didn't sit around in the opening for too long). While DrivaMain had about 12.5 kills per minute. 8 enemies per minute suggests a stronger than 50% drop chance for life support containers from enemies.
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After seeing my own results, about 12 kills per minute is what you have to achieve. Wisp is tempting, but I think the stealth passive actually makes it too hard for enemies to consistently find her, therefore you can't kill as many. Garuda is tempting but I need better reflexes to pull it off (you need to be able to keep your 2 up, spam 3 for energy for your 1 cast 1 to get the mirror cast 2 cast 3 cast 1....it's very intense, and I love it but I'm not fast enough to do it for 20 minutes)
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Update, been trying for 3 days on this survival, I don't have Hildryn yet and I hear that's the normal way to clear that mission....but I wondered, if it was mathematically impossible to finish the mission.
A survival mission lasts 1200 seconds (20 minutes), You begin the game with 100% life support and it drains at a rate of 1% every 1.5 seconds, that means you have 150 seconds at the start of the mission. Every canister gives you 30%(90 seconds)(45 Seconds)and if the wiki is correct, you get 13 canisters of the course of a 20 minute mission. That means that, the Lotus gives you only 585 seconds of survival, less than half the time. So that means, we need another 615 seconds. Every canister dropped from an enemy, gives you 5% life support (7 seconds.) so this means we need to kill about 88 enemies to get to the end, simple right? Well it would be if every single enemy dropped Life Support. The drop rate for life support modules is...hidden? (can't find it) Let's assume it's 25%, so that means for every four enemies, we get on average 1 life support module (I have a feeling the drop rate is actually worse than this, but I might be wrong, when I do find the actual drop rate I'll update this post)
That means over the course of this mission we need to kill 352 enemies in total. Or about 17 enemies per minute, to have a chance at finishing this mission. Early on I think this is easy, it's the Corpus Techs that are a big problem (at least for me) as well as the Oxium Osprays because they have a lot of armor. Solo it complicates things because the spawn rate is lower.edit2: Given my own experience and the experience of others in this thread, the 17 enemies per minute might be a harsh estimate. It seems like the drop rate for life support is more like 1/3rd of the time (~33%) Of course, there is also the fact that opening lockers and breaking cans also has a chance to give life support. I'd say shoot for 12 enemies per minute, if you get lucky you might only need as low as 8 per minute, but 12 should do just fine and is achievable even for 2nd tier frames like Mirage 😛
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That makes me wonder, Warframe Augments work (thought it's unclear if it's a bug or a feature) what about weapon augments? Like the stickygrenades on the Penta or the nulifier pop on the Miter? this requires experiments as well.
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1 hour ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:
I didn't use augments or a syndicate weapon, I used Revenant and War. Just 1 thrall cast per wave, Good luck.
Hmmm, faster cast time than Nyx with more armor.
I don't have War, but I do have Gram prime, I'll give revenant a shot.
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For raw damage, there isn't much that can outpace Saryn. With enough range and strength the spores cover the whole map and kill everything. I think Wisp is a strong contender for "Best Frame" right now as well, the motes never go away, and the buffs they give are amazing. She buffs weapons, gives surviveability to the whole team, and she avoids damage with her passive.
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On 2019-11-04 at 12:11 AM, KazuXSora said:
Tldr: It's your problem that you can't do the Grendel mission. It's either you didn't make a team planning correctly or you just don't know how to play and just want everything easily.
What if I don't have a team, or every single syndicate weapon? I actually agree with you on the RNG part, and I'm really close to beating these missions, but it's hard. It's not fun, and why did it have to be endless? DE, Please, next time you do this, give me Spy, Sabotage, and Rescue. (Hell, ESCORT is more fun than these) I'll do them without mods, without gear, WITHOUT CYPHERS. I would have been fine if it wasn't Survival and Defense, which are very uninteresting game modes and very difficult to do in this setup without a team of 4 friends.
Is it my fault I don't have friends? Probably. I'll get these missions done, and they are at least interesting, but I don't think they should be hard just for the sake of being hard.
I am going to solo all three, because if I can't Warframe isn't a game worth playing.
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25 minutes ago, krc473 said:
Run it on Public
There already aren't enough people running this mission 😛
I didn't know that support drops were dependent on enemy kills though. Also that's a bummer about operators, I'd really like a few extra passives even if I can't dash or use mines or other stuff.
Edit: Also, people telling me to run this in groups, Warframe has a "solo" option. It should be at least possible to complete all mission types solo. I expect it to be hard. -
So, I'm a solo player largely, I'm part of a clan with 2 people and I don't have a large reserve of friends to call on when stupid missions come out, but I am, if nothing else, a massacist, and committed to farming whatever frames I can myself. On that note, I'm having a lot of trouble with Grendel's missions. It reminds me of when I was trying to go through Jupiter and only my Excalibur had a potato, I had to rely on pug teams to carry me through most of the missions. (Why couldn't one of these have been a spy mission?)
What I want to ask is, what frames can solo these missions? The survival I got really far with Wisp and with Inaros, the problem is about 15 minutes in I started running out of life support. I just can't kill the enemies fast enough. I don't know if I'm just not selecting the right weapons or if I just need to get better at dispatching enemies somehow. There's not really tactics to use at that point because I don't have a gun that kills those enemies quickly enough I just have to rely on my melee weapon
I haven't tried the excavation or defense yet. I have some idea for the defense solo, but I don't know if it will work. The excavation is technically easy you just have to never finish an excavator.
What have other tenno had success with? On a side note, what warframe could survive in Mott with no mods/void mode for 20 mins (Also, are passives turned off? Or can we just not press 5, because Naruman would be kinda cool and the other passives from Unaru that increase armor would actually be pretty nice in this very specific scenario.)-
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Is there a warframe that can Solo all of Grendel's missions
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I only encountered a Bursa in the defense mission. (I caved and found a team for it, but even with 3 frames you could do that defense easily, maybe even with 2 frames!). I encountered a high level eximus moa in the excavation though...that was terrifying
Also I didn't know this at the time, but apparently Mirage's clones are bugged to have full mods. I don't know if that's true (I spent the whole mission swinging Gram Prime around so idk, I also don't have the augment which might be the source of this rumor.)