KnightOwl_
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I’ll never understand meta chasing in a game of which 99% of it can be done with a modded Braton mk-1.
Also riven balancing is a substitute due to the fact if DE did an actual balancing pass on warframe the forums and social media would lose their collective poop.
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16 minutes ago, OvisCaedo said:
I really love all of the posts talking about what rivens were "by design" or "from the beginning". The actual truth was that there was so little design and so little thought put into them that they launched as a system that almost only buffed meta weapons but were claimed as a way of breathing life into unused ones. They were even programmed so badly that their existence is apparently taxing on DE's servers/databases or something.
Riven dispositions were a player idea. DE launched rivens without anything of the sort. All weapons had the exact same stat ranges, and it took a lot of player feedback to point out the incredibly obvious failures of this design. Most primarily that weaker weapons needed to have stronger mods, and that the reason weaker weapons were weaker was that their base stats were too awful to even scale with mods effectively. DE slapped together dispositions based purely on popularity because it was less work than doing balance assessment, and then ignored the problems for about a good year or so before finally giving in and doing a weapon balance pass like they should've to begin with. I think it was close to two years after rivens launched, with massive balance problems caused by releasing new powerful versions of previously garbage weapons and the balance pass in the meantime, before DE finally decided they should probably start adjusting riven dispositions for the utter mess they'd let fester and spiral out of control for years.
I think a big part of this is DE is terrified of their playerbase. Imagine the forums if DE did a balancing pass on weapons, and meta weapons were nerfed, and bad weapons for buffed, and so on. For some reason the players have this idea that this game is just a power fantasy thing, and they want to turn it into Diablo 3 in space, a game, mind you, where a set that launched (rolands) 100% damage modifier at launch, is currently at 13000% because nerfs are bad. Just buff.
Of course then the players whine about lack of difficulty and endgame which is rather amusing from an objective view. Rampant power creep is not a good thing.
I think Rivens were a poor attempt to balance weapons on the fly without Rebecca dealing with angsty players, because “hey kids Rivens are like that!” Without taking responsibility for the games poor balancing. DE wanted their cake and eat it too so to speak and it kinda blew up in their faces.
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Maybe I’m insane but I always thought Rivens were for stuff you really really liked, like why I have a kronen, boltor and Opticor riven. Weapons I really liked and wanted to be awesome, and in the case of kronen prime, usable. Rivens are great for that
But I also never saw the point of meta chasing in a game like this where difficulty is basically an illusion and it’s more about having fun with your favorite toys. Rivens are horrible for meta chasing because they are explicitly designed to decrease due to popularity but meta chasers still get angry when the inevitable happens.
I guess the moral of the story is don’t be a meta chaser and you’ll have more fun? Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen this in a game...
also, if people want to see the effects of power creep gone rampant, google Diablo 3. One could use that game as the basis for a thesis on power creep.
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42 minutes ago, elmetnuter said:
We are in the good old days of World of Warcraft forums where the players that HAVE ENJOYED the game for thousands of hours and finished everything come out to say the game is bad.
YOUR experience DOES NOT compare to mine, nor anybody else.
"I don't recommend the game in it's current state." Do you think we are here to read a steam review?
You are not objective like many others that just don't seem to remember why they have played for so long and enjoyed the game. I am not saying your feelings are not genuine but you are part of very tiny fraction of the player base and your opinion is more biased because of this.
Why can't people move on?
Its funny that wow is brought up because, while i do not have the hours the OP does, and im not 100% burned out yet (getting there), the similarities between wow and warframe are getting eerily similar. A beloved developer house blowing their goodwill on a lack of updates and constant timeline pushbacks. A hands off of balancing the game that leads to soul crushing metas. Veterans leaving the game in droves because catering to the new players and the ultracasuals is all that matters.. Youre kinda right, it is like the wow forums! All thats missing is a sortie version of LFR and weekly loot chests.
I myself would rather go full wow for this game and pay a sub if it meant consistent, regular content updates, not unlike wow patches.
I see this game as being the very best, and very worst, of f2p gaming. For a f2p game its really well done, looks pretty, and initially a ton of things for a new player to do. But like most f2p games, it also runs out of content after a while, and the developers are more interested in pushing skins, cosmetics and new characters than actual content that advances the story or provides new challenges. How can people be surprised the vets are getting burned out and leaving?
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If being good or not is a factor for a frame getting cosmetics, how come chromas options are so thin? Or is chroma a bad, unpopular frame too?
It would behoove the artists to diversify their art, because I highly doubt people will spend money on saryn skin #4637
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You’re not a god you’re just playing a very easy game designed with power fantasy in mind that is simple enough for anyone with the brain power of a trout to obliterate. Combine that with a playerbase that comes shrieking if you dare suggest any nerfs for game balance and you’re left with perpetual power creep and ezmode.
Lets not get it twisted, this game is good silly fun but bragging about being “good” at it is like bragging you’re good a falling off roofs.
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As an OV user all I can say is *makes grabby hands*
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On 2019-08-31 at 1:27 AM, (PS4)Black-Cat-Jinx said:
A lot of this is good.... None of it will allow bows to challenge other weapon types.
You really need to just accept that it's time you tweak some mechanics. Having bows and semi auto rifles effected by combo counters would be a good start, and also tweaking thunderbolt so that it actually causes a portion of total damage to be delivered as area of effect instead of it being a fixed damage amount.
You can buff bows all you want but people are still going to mostly use the ignis wraith or other meta weapons because they are more rewarding in damage but require less skill. This isn't going to be enough to get people using any bow outside the lens.
Also. Seeing as this is obviously a preparation for Ivara prime to be coming out in another month or two when wukong slides down his monkey pole, what are you doing to Artemis?That’s because this entire game needs a balancing pass. Any developer that wasn’t afraid of riven/plat tears would have nerfed ignis into the ground a year ago.
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3 hours ago, GrievousLady said:
you know that it can kill lvl 5 grineer on earth right?
99% of this game is sortie level and below. Just switch to a meta weapon for that other 1% of content. Going to sit in a Kuva siphon until you need a new depends? Break out the zaw. Otherwise you can use dual zoren for the rest.
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22 minutes ago, (PS4)sweatshawp said:
Telling people to get a life assuming that they don’t isnt the way to go about things brother.
I honestly was just going for a few cheap laughs but that you assumed I was telling the OP to get a life is more telling of his post than anything I ever could say.
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Try dating.
1. Very easy to fail a mission
2. Require social interaction. A group of 4 can get...interesting.
3. You’ll level up. Big difference between mr1 and mr 10. Just go to a club and see.
4. Lots of grinding
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Limbo is one of those frames that depends on player skill for others not to hate. I cringe when I see a limbo in a defense sortie/mission because there is a good chance it’s a max duration/range noobhat and I’ll just leave and try again out of frustration. The good limbo players show what the frame can do and are good teammates.
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Thanks. I can’t imagine changing his 1 to 100% status being harder than changing a value line in the code from .6 to 1. But I’m not a dev so yeah.
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As people can see on the forums, there is a decent sized demand for a chroma rework. His prime is awesome and the concept of a dragon frame is a strong pull for a lot of people. While his current role of in the eidolon meta is strong, many people, myself included, want a more complete frame for more than just Terry, Garry and Harry.
Thst being said, it’s understandable that chroma is down the list of reworks while frames like Vauban and Ember (again...) need it more urgently. So I came up with two easy fixes for a temporary chroma rebalance until his turn for Pablo to fix, while not touching his eidolon farming meta:
1. Spectral Scream buffed to 100% status chance either via straight buff or augment
-by doing this, his 1 has a role as a channeled aoe CC. Breath on guys, they dance. Or get dizzy. Whatever it is, they aren’t hitting you, and this gives a good reason to use the ability. The damage is never going to be great, but at least at 100 status it IS a CC ability. And in my opinion a neat one too.
2. Change his 4 augment to make the effigy follow you around.
-a power ranger and his dragon kite have entered the fight! Give the effigy sentinel AI, and let players choose between survivability or extra damage. Now the effigy augment has a purpose, and his 4 is more of a straight damage boost over a barely used turret.
I think these are simple changes to chroma, and would go a long way in improving how he plays for 95% of the rest of the game that isn’t a boss fight.
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If you’re that worried about data capping, lay off the takeout and buy a better data plan. Or get rid of cable tv and get just internet. Op is yelling at people when the problem is you’re using phone data to play warframe.
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Rivers should be less about raw damage boosts and more about interesting weapon builds or changing how they play. Less +CRIT and damage and more + mag size, reload, +/- zoom, so on. So like a rubico riven that increases mag size to 20, but has only 1.5 zoom and a fast reload. You just turned a sniper rifle into an m14. Stuff like that.
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Why not allow a vote option to boost the ilvl of starting enemies to 50/100? If majority agrees it passes, if not it doesn’t. Yeah will lead to a lot of people leaving if they don’t get their way but the next guy in will be given the option to join the boosted run or pass.
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Ahh yes, battle royale, the middle school of video games.
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I’m not looking for a straight buff to chroma I am looking for a reason to press his 1 and 4. It’s not that hard to grasp.
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On 2019-08-12 at 12:50 AM, Klokwerkaos said:
stop trying to buff frames that are clearly at the top of the meta...
holy crap. like in two days i've seen calls for buffs for mesa, rhino, saryn and now chroma... what kind of drugs is everyone doing that they can't already nuke the whole game with these op frames and think they need more buffs?!?!?!literally nobody "needs" a buff to obliterate all content in the game. at best 2 frames could use a solid rework, being ember and vauban who are really the only lackluster frames at present.
what we need is not buffs to any other frames but rather, better answers for the enemies to our abilities to provide challenge of any kind.if any content in the game is at all hard for anyone ever... even playing ember and vauban, the answer isn't because your frame sucks, it"s because you're under geared... which means it's time for you to grind up and get better mods, weapons, arcanes, etc. if you choose not to do that, that's fine, but that's your choice.
this is game is literally easier than candy crush and people still want buffs... SMH“BuT EiDoLoNs!” is a lame excuse to not give chroma a useful 1 and 4.
This game being easy is a lame excuse to not give chroma a useful 1 and 4. It won’t make the game “easier” it will make chroma a fully functional frame. And even if it did then that’s on DE to buff the AI and difficulty.
Yes, chroma has an overpowered 3. He also has a useless 1, useless 4, a barely noticeable 2, and not much of a passive that doesn’t even effect his best skill, the 3. That’s why people want a rework. They want a true dragon frame, not some dull buffbot for your stupid 5x3 runs. Something fun to play doing everything else as well.
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Komo is awesome for ord and plains, where a DMR style weapon excels in the real world. Mid to long range combat is perfect for it.
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I appreciate all those who carry in spies, because otherwise I wouldn’t do them. I’d rather have a dwarf pro wrestler uppercut my nuts mortal kombat style.
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On 2019-08-09 at 6:11 PM, (XB1)D00M INCARNATE said:
I like the idea of warframe with a stricter energy economy, but it would completely suck the fun out of some of these frames.
On a side note: room nuking definitely isn't everything, so it'd be messing up a lot of other aspects of the game too.
I think if you removed this stuff but gave everyone a passive energy regen, it would be fine. Right now clearing maps while running and headbutting your 4 key is not fine.
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Even better idea: give us 2 option paths with different missions so we don’t have to subject ourselves to sortie spy missions at all.
Riven Disposition changes only makes things worse, never better.
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Imagine these forums if DE took all the comments how the catchmoon is op, doesn’t even need a riven, everyone already uses one, so on and so on and says “ok you’re right.” And promptly nerfs the base stats to encourage other secondaries to be used.
Ever see that Chernobyl mini series on HBO? Yeah. That would be the forums.
DE doesn’t want that so this is what we get. At least it’s just optional Rivens being “balanced.”