(PSN)DesecratedFlame
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2 hours ago, Padre_Akais said:
What you are calling a "strategy" is actually a tactic... The two aren't the same.
What you and others call "Meta" is just new school for the word strategy. Your description is kinda ironic as meta actually means "self referential". Etymology FTW.
FTFY
Simply put, merely winning is not the only definition of, or path to, fun.
Meta gaming actually means using info from outside of the game to make decisions, such as laying down a counter for something you see a player always do.
I know the differencebetween a strategy and tactic and meant what I said.
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4 minutes ago, Padre_Akais said:
Meta= Most Effective Tactic Available.
Meta actually means using outside information to adjust your strategy.
5 minutes ago, Padre_Akais said:this game is supposed to be about fun
Winning is fun.
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1 minute ago, Gelkor said:
"It's not a phase, Lotus!"
Idunno, I'm still pretty sure their biggest market is adults with money to spend on things, I don't think the Teeno choice was a conscious decision to attract young players, if they can identify with it, sure, whatever. But if this turns into some stupid love triangle I'm out.
People that have to earn their money instead of having mommy and daddy giving it to them tend to be more frugal with it.
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10 minutes ago, Gelkor said:
I assumed edgy teen meant to encompass older teens, who notoriously hate "kiddy S#&$." If you meant younger teens to pre-teens, I suppose that's accurate
edgy teens would be closer to 13 to 16
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1 minute ago, Gelkor said:
Yes, and 18 year olds really love to identify with 12 year olds.
Who said 18?
Also, Tenno are eternally-young, immensely-powerful (allegedly) immortals, not 12 year olds. It would be like saying that edgy teens don't want to identify with Hellsing's Alucard.
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15 minutes ago, Gelkor said:
None of it's the point, I don't think the Hulk/Banner Jekyll/Hyde dynamic is an apt corollary to the Teeno at all. A closer one being, say, Jean Gray/Phoenix in some of the runs where they are all teenagers, except age her down to pre-teen and all of the annoying stuff that comes with that, like her being a total tool to all of her friends. (See: Jean Grey in All-New X-Men)
Pretty much everyone likes to hate on children in genre fiction, especially magical children, and teenagers aren't an exception, and I'd wager "edgy-teens" are in the majority in wanting to remove their Teeno from the game. The decision for the protagonists wasn't made for them.
Nah, they want to have someone they can identify with, and eventually leading to power-fulfillment.
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8 minutes ago, Gelkor said:
I take it you don't really read comics these days.
I read WW Hulk. Not really the point though.
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10 minutes ago, Gelkor said:
Who is still an adult, and accomplished one at that,
He is a weak chump that gets pushed around when not the Hulk.
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3 minutes ago, Gelkor said:
They don't want to be emotionally crippled prepubescent child soldiers with all the strength and build of a wet noodle.
Yes, they do. It's the same concept behind the Incredible Hulk.
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Edgy teens is the target demo these days.
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2 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:
Take Pong as an example. There isn't really a meta that can be used for that game.
False. If I play with you repeatedly, and notice that you tend to leave your paddle near the top of the screen, then I will start sending the ball to the bottom of your screen as much as possible. That is meta.
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12 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:
This is in regards to computer/electronic gaming.
Meta Gaming predates video games, and in regards to electronic gaming, it has existed for as long as competitive video games have.
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1 minute ago, DatDarkOne said:
LOL. This would imply that the player was a "Jack of All Trades". :D
No, it means they would be a Nova.
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3 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:
Meta gaming was created by my gaming generation.
I don't believe that you are hundreds of years old.
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23 minutes ago, ChuckMaverick said:
Is buying frame slots really an issue, even for free players?
Yes, especially for players just starting out, even more so if they want to avoid the trade channel. We don't have anything like an Auction House.
21 minutes ago, TheDefenestrater said:So, are you saying META simply caters to the lowest common denominator?
No, I am saying the Meta is about what works best.
20 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:why would It be a good idea to not pick a very good Oberon user over a subpar Meta frame user?
Because I have never met him before and don't know if he is good or not, and if he is good then he would still be more effective as a Nova.
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2 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:
I'm an Old School Gamer and I say screw "meta".
Meta gaming has been around forever.
3 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:can that meta frame still be considered to be meta?
Yes, just because a frame is the most efficient at performing a task doesn't mean the player is good.
4 minutes ago, Thebel said:Sadly as much as I like Zeph, I have to agree simply because Banshee has a more usable/ user friendly kit. Zeph needs a better kit.
Don't worry. I have a soft spot for Volt myself and wish he was better too.
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4 hours ago, Major_Phantom said:
Did you perhaps not read ?
As in, stacking classes isn't advised. I never said dps is bad. . .
It's usually okay to stack debuffers.
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10 minutes ago, (PS4)Darth-Escar said:
their Banshee could outperform my Zephyr.
That's true though. I have seen Banshees shut down entire maps like Xini. Zeph is just a dime store frost. Zeph's only real use is the Tonkor exploit.
No one has really asked you to prove anything, all you're doing is trying to justify that Oberon should be in the meta, even if the meta disagrees. Again no one cares what you can do with Oberon. The idea is that whatever he can do, there is always a better frame that can fill that slot, aka the meta problem.
QFT, again . . .
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2 minutes ago, tnccs215 said:
than what's the point of having any other frames?
I am going to assume you mean "then," in which case, the solution is finding them other roles or offering side-grades.
The problem is Oberon. He offers nothing to the meta, when he should be working as a side grade to Blessing Trinity,
An ult scaling infinitely is perfectly reasonable.
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On 12/2/2016 at 8:46 PM, Godzelda123 said:
Sometimes it annoys me how underrated Warframe is, it's a hidden gem of a game. Usually when I tell people I play it they'll say "Oh I think I've heard that name" or just haven't heard of it at all. At times I want everyone to know about this game and to see major gaming websites or Youtube Channels talking and referring to it. Then again I rather enjoy the small community, and the hidden gem aspect kinda makes Warframe feel more special. Kinda like you're part of some secret club in a way. So what do you guys think? Would you enjoy Warframe more of it was popular as other Triple A games? Or is it's popularity fine where it is?
It lacks anything to make it appeal to the mainstream. It is literally just a game about farming for loot then grinding that loot. We may like that, but most people don't.
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Just now, DrBorris said:
Let's not bring Ash into this...
IMO, Simulor is a perfect candidate for a CC weapon (stuns, procs, but meh damage). The problem is that a CC weapon would be sh!t in Warframe's current state. Hopefully a Damage 3.0 could make room for CC weapons, but at this point it is all about DPS. A "rework" to S. Simulor would be an objective nerf, no way around it.
I also find it pretty funny how when Simulor came out everyone agreed it was S#&$... Then S. Simulor happened.
Why not give it good damage, CC, but a limit on the number of active orbs and a charge time for each orb?
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4 hours ago, (PS4)Regiampiero said:
Can the particle effects be toned down a few notches during assimilate absorb?
This needs changed for everything, not just Assimilate.
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Just now, DatDarkOne said:
Ivara and Nyx. Razorwing Titania and Rhino. Both of which I've done. Quite successfully too. I've found many interesting combinations outside of the established meta during PuGs.
And I have run Nova, solo, without powers. It doesn't make it efficient or a good idea.
I am not saying you can't play whatever you want. I am just saying that it is inefficient, which is what the entire argument is about.
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Just now, Hypernaut1 said:
Not everyone cars to build every frame. My Oberon is a great help in any mission I bring him to.
Neither do I. Even just the core 4 tends to out weigh him in every situation.
Can we please nerf Mirage + Simulor?
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