How About We Reintroduce Armor Ignore.....

[DHKany]

For weapons that really need it? 

 

Serrated Blade Damage was the saving grace for melee weapons, now most of them are shoehorned into the so-and-so slash damage. 

Sure the new elemental combos make up for it..... somewhat. The lowering of enemy defenses helped, but melee weapons still feel so incredibly lackluster. 

 

Just reintroduce armor ignore for them, please DE that would make them incredibly viable for end game grineer missions and would stop them from being such a PITA to use against some of the other factions.

 

Or how about some of the thrown secondaries? Hikou and Kunai currently serve little to no purpose if you already own Despairs. This is one of the few cases where you could argue that damage 1.0 was more DIVERSE than the current damage system. 

 

Hikous were infested killing Machines

Despairs were Grineer 

Kunais were nicely in between 

 

but this no longer is the case. Reintroduce some sort of the armor ignore for the Hikou and the Kunai (or just something to make them a viable secondaries compared to the Despairs). 

 

Feel free to leave thoughts, always appreciate feedback. 

[Fomiru]

Wait for Melee 2.0 my friend.

 

Soon.

 

Besides use Corrosive Projection if you need to counter armor.

[BestFarmerNA]

maybe armor ignore could be called corrosive and replacing it so that it uses 4 elements.

[VKhaun]

HOW ABOUT NO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait for Melee 2.0 my friend.

 

Soon.

 

Besides use Corrosive Projection if you need to counter armor.

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This. We balance the game so armor makes sense and give people overall control with the mod system, not make select weapons ignore the defense curve.

 

Edited January 8, 2014 by VKhaun

[immolator1001]

The despair is supposed to be an upgrade to the kunai and hikou so... 

Edited January 8, 2014 by immolator1001

[BizarreFetalChimpanzee]

No. 

 

While I agree that something needs to be done to make melee weapons more viable (the goal of melee 2.0), I don't want to see armor ignore come back. The number one thing I hated in damage 1 was that it pretty much led to a mentality of "go armor ignore or go home," because the armor scaling was so ridiculous (and still is to an extent) that the only viable weapons out there were the ones that ignored armor outright which led to barely any loadout diversity at all. 

[Grandarex]

Armor ignore was what prompted DE to develop and implement Damage 2.0

 

Having some weapon ignore armor created a huge gap in weapon hierarchy and made people upset in general about how some of their favorite weapons simply could not compare to those that had armor ignore.

 

This suggestion would immediately undo everything DE tried to do in Damage 2.0 - to make every weapon viable in one way or another.

[Taranis49]

The despair is supposed to be an upgrade to the kunai and hikou so... 

 

Says who? Regardless, while you can maybe make the claim for Kunai, you can't really do so for Hikou... Particularly since Despair predates them.

 

Hikou atleast were definitely intended to be an alternative (hell, the description says as much), trading raw damage per hit for higher RoF.