Spliffy_McGee Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) What do you think the different catagories would be? This is all theoretical, of course, but I like catagorizing things that don't need it, and this is what I came up with: -- TANK (Most defensive abilities, often slowest run speed)FrostRhinoSarynValkyr-- HEALER (Varying stats - healing abilities)OberonTrinity-- STRIKER (Low defenses, high speed, and high damage)AshEmberExcaliburLokiNovaVolt-- CONTROLLER (Varying stats - crowd control abilities)BansheeMagNekrosNyxVaubanZephyr Edit: Gonna change up the topic just a little bit. First question: What role do you think each Warframe SHOULD fill? Second question: What role do you think each Warframe CURRENTLY fills? Also, how EFFECTIVELY does it fill that role? Discuss. Edited March 8, 2014 by Spliffy_McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Excalibur starts being an all rounder and towards the end of the game turns into a really good support warframe. I'd say he's all about crowd control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPS9 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I know a lot of people call Rhino a tank but really I cant see it.Most of the ones I end up playing with die, a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spliffy_McGee Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Excalibur starts being an all rounder and towards the end of the game turns into a really good support warframe. I'd say he's all about crowd control. He is pretty good support, the only reason I put him as Striker is cuz he has two DPS abilities, and only one cc ability. I know a lot of people call Rhino a tank but really I cant see it. Most of the ones I end up playing with die, a ton. That's just a case of user-error there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 the problem with this is that warframes have multiple catagories to be put in, they arent pure but mixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SALE94 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Frost Identity Crisis Victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPS9 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Oberon is a mix of CC and healerAsh = CC (A bit) and Striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 -- TANK (High armor and health) Valkyr Sad but true. Valkyr needs a total rework - from tank to berserker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Having Loki in the so-called "Striker" list is proof of how wrong his invisibility is. Loki is support. He is ment to be support, not the ultimate death machine. His switch teleport is support. His decoy is support. His radial disarm is support. Loki should only be invisible for as long as he doesn't attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Having Loki in the so-called "Striker" list is proof of how wrong his invisibility is. Loki is support. He is ment to be support, not the ultimate death machine. His switch teleport is support. His decoy is support. His radial disarm is support. Loki should only be invisible for as long as he doesn't attack. Loki is only meant to support himself so that he can deal damage. He is a trickster, not support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Loki is only meant to support himself so that he can deal damage. He is a trickster, not support. Wrong, completely wrong. But I don't blame you. It's DE's lack of talent for videogame balance fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8bit_Ghost Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Loki is only meant to support himself so that he can deal damage. He is a trickster, not support. Decoy and Radial Disarm are pretty supporting tbh. He's a supportive sweeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Wrong, completely wrong. But I don't blame you. It's DE's lack of talent for videogame balance fault. Sorry, but no. I am entirely correct. Learn2LokiMasterRace Decoy and Radial Disarm are pretty supporting tbh. He's a supportive sweeper. Just because other people benefit from them doesn't make him a "support class". He is your archetypical "thief/wizard trickster" archtype. Edited March 8, 2014 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spliffy_McGee Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Having Loki in the so-called "Striker" list is proof of how wrong his invisibility is. Loki is support. He is ment to be support, not the ultimate death machine. His switch teleport is support. His decoy is support. His radial disarm is support. Loki should only be invisible for as long as he doesn't attack. The way I see it, his biggest factor is the Stealth 4x Melee damage boost (same for Ash, sadly). He's meant to f*** sh*t up and bail out at high speeds. Ergo, Striker. imo obv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Sorry, but no. I am entirely correct. Learn2LokiMasterRace Doesn't "Master Race" sound to you llike "overpowered"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Doesn't "Master Race" sound to you llike "overpowered"? Learn2Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) The way I see it, his biggest factor is the Stealth 4x Melee damage boost (same for Ash, sadly). He's meant to f*** sh*t up and bail out at high speeds. Ergo, Striker. So radial disarm and decoy are meaningless to you. Again, I won't blame you. Perma-invisibility+ 4x bonus damage vs dumb enemies who won't react to attacks is just too good. Probably your friends would like you to use the radial disarm but who cares anyway. It's not like Warframe was a team game, right? @The guy at DE in charge of (destroying) balance: you take note of how much you failed doing your job. People actually think Loki is an attack character. Edited March 8, 2014 by Phantasmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 So radial disarm and decoy are meaningless to you. Again, I won't blame you. Perma-invisibility+ 4x bonus damage vs dumb enemies who won't react to attacks is just too good. Probably your friends would like you to use the radial disarm but who cares anyway. It's not like Warframe was a team game, right? I love how you call a melee ability overpowered. In this, the Age of Soma, you dare freakin' call melee overpowered. You better stop playing now, before Melee 2.0 lands because I'm foreseeing amazing things for Loki (and Ash) when it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8bit_Ghost Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Just because other people benefit from them doesn't make him a "support class". He is your archetypical "thief/wizard trickster" archtype. Um Support means: to give other players an advantage of sorts. Those powers are supports. Also, do you know what sweepers are? Sweepers are a type of fighting strategy that rush in and deal lots of damage quickly in short periods of time. They're meant to do a lot of damage quickly, like Loki. Sweepers also have another thing about them, though: they are easy to kill. Loki is very easy to kill if you don't stay on your toes. Luckily invisibility gives him the benefits of sweeping without the disadvantages...if you can keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beas7ie Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I know a lot of people call Rhino a tank but really I cant see it. Most of the ones I end up playing with die, a ton. *Game starts* *Press number 2 or whatever key you have assigned to activate Honey Badger Mode* *Not give a F*** about any forms of damage, CC, or Negative Effects as you roflstomp all the bad guys* Any Questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spliffy_McGee Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Gonna change up the topic just a little bit. First question: What role do you think each Warframe SHOULD fill? Second question: What role do you think each Warframe CURRENTLY fills? Also, how EFFECTIVELY does it fill that role? Discuss. Edited March 8, 2014 by Spliffy_McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmo Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) *Game starts* *Press number 2 or whatever key you have assigned to activate Honey Badger Mode* *Not give a F*** about any forms of damage, CC, or Negative Effects as you roflstomp all the bad guys* Any Questions? You forgot to mention Vanguard's OP speed bonus. He renders irrelevant every other warframe in the game. Crowd control? Not needed, he can out run any enemy. Healers? Not needed, he can tank damage like a stone wall. Mobility/scouts? Not needed, he can out run them too. Rhino is another mistake. Rhino has the resilience of a tank, the speed of a scout and then he's an area stunner too. And he has damage bonus. And he charges into mele. Seriously, I just don't know what were they thinking when they greenlighted his design. Edited March 8, 2014 by Phantasmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Gonna change up the topic just a little bit. First question: What role do you think each Warframe SHOULD fill? Second question: What role do you think each Warframe CURRENTLY fills? Also, how EFFECTIVELY does it fill that role? Discuss. Valkyr - Crazy melee DPS Remove invulnerability from Hysteria. Remove the claws from Hysteria, make it power up your current melee weapon and keep the CC immunity - perhaps add a Speed boost for flavour. Remove Lifesteal from Hysteria and add it to Warcry. You now have a crazy, gun-ho melee DPS Warframe that survives not by cheesy invulnerability but by constantly being engaged in melee with the enemy and drinking their blood to stay alive! Removing the lame-&#! claws and giving you access to your melee weapon will make her ten thousand times more fun to play - especially when Melee 2.0 lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spliffy_McGee Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Valkyr - Crazy melee DPS Remove invulnerability from Hysteria. Remove the claws from Hysteria, make it power up your current melee weapon and keep the CC immunity - perhaps add a Speed boost for flavour. Remove Lifesteal from Hysteria and add it to Warcry. You now have a crazy, gun-ho melee DPS Warframe that survives not by cheesy invulnerability but by constantly being engaged in melee with the enemy and drinking their blood to stay alive! Removing the lame-&#! claws and giving you access to your melee weapon will make her ten thousand times more fun to play - especially when Melee 2.0 lands. Trading shields for health with Warcray would be epic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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